Jun 11 2007
I Agree With Joe Lieberman
I agree with Sen Joe Lieberman and his views on Iran (and I suspect there is a under-the-table diplomatic warning that is basically of the same nature that has gone out to Iran):
Sen. Joe Lieberman says the United States should be prepared to take “aggressive military action” against Iran in response to its purported killings of U.S. troops inside Iraq.
“I think we’ve got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,” the Connecticut independent said during an appearance on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers.”
Mr. Lieberman, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, recently returned from a trip to the region and said there is evidence that “as many as 200 American soldiers” have been killed by Iranians and Iranian-trained forces. Mr. Lieberman remained firm when asked whether he was suggesting strikes against Iran.
“I am. And I want to make clear I’m not talking about a massive ground invasion of Iran, but we have good evidence,” he said. “If they don’t play by the rules, we’ve got to use our force and to me that would include taking military action to stop them from doing what they’re doing.”
Iran has been warned. We have seized material coming out of Iran to kill our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have caught terrorists coming and going over their borders. We know of training camps inside their borders. If Iran cannot stay out of this war, then we will let them feel the full force of it. No one is making Iran do this, so they deserve any reprisals we see fit to inflict for their part in killing our people. We cannot let this continue unanswered, or else it will escalate and we will lose more good people. The warnings have been given and now we should act if this continues.
You’re dreaming again AJ. Warnings to Iran? It holds the
cards and laughs at them, probably realizing ,if any are extant, they
emanate from the retreating Neocon/Israeli Lobby which Lieberman
represents. Joe is merely trying to apply whatever pressure he can on Bush, hoping to offset the prevailing Baker/realist view which realizes Iran must be negotiated with,not “warned.”
The below quotes are from “THECENTERCANNOTHOLD†: the greatest “hits†from this board in the past couple of days, the Delusional rantings of a Lunar Chiroptera fringe nutbag, who is Racist against not only Jews but Hispanics; who is also Proudly Anti-American and Pro-Jihadi.
A worshipper of fellow fringe nutbags from both the left and the right; his “heroes†include: Ron “John Bircher” Paul, William “Armchair Warrior” Lind, Juan “Anti-American/Anti-Semite/Pro-Jihadi/Former Bahi Convert/Probable Shi’ite” Cole and Pat “I hate everybody” Buchanan:
“You’re going to lose both the Southwest and the Mideast.â€
“And yes I said “Surrender to Mexico Strata†because long before ragtag bans of Moslems will make his kids bow to Mecca, the Mexican revanchists will recapture the Southwest for “La Raza.â€
“I would remain silent, avoiding all protest, at the transmogrification of the Southwest,…â€
“Aj of course is an Islamophobiac, which is several degrees worse than a hypochondriac inasmuch as it is Hispanics at 15% and with a nation bordering us, not Moslems at 3% with nations a half a globe away who constitute a challenge.â€
“..as you are to the fifth column of Zionist neocons posing as conservatives who fool dupes like you to shed their children’s blood for Ashkenazi racist endeavours.â€
“…of the neocon quagmire beleiving in traitors and fools who…â€
“….is any Moslem anywhere in the world who wants Israel to give back the West Bank and Samaria to Palestinians and who resents American subsidization of Israel and it is any Moslem in the world who wants American bases and meddling, including CIA meddling in
Moslem countries elections and government,expurgated from Islamic nations…..â€
You can’t make this stuff up!
The fact that there are such brain-damaged individuals as he and “Soothsayerâ€, who actually “pass†as American “citizensâ€, is almost inconceiveable!
i know i’m repeating myself but so what! this is to the naysayers…..
are we in a war against terrorism? are we in a war against the states that sponsor it?
if, as the president has stated we are, then why are the terror leaders of iran, syria, sudan, hamas, hezzbollah and al sadr to name a few still alive? correct me if i’m wrong—these are the terrorists and these are the states.
apparently john edwards must be right–is that even possible–that we are not in a war on terror. it must be a bumper sticker affair akin to those other famous bumper crusades. you know, “free tibet†and “save darfurâ€. by my reasoning these folks should all be dead now, not sipping lattes and on shopping excursions while being feted by the UN. the fact that they are not speaks volumes. i won’t even mention politicos looking for photo ops.
what is this constant harping about massive strikes, bombings etc that both supporters and opponents run out to deal with the terror nations. the only thing we have to do, and sooner or later we will do it, is admit we are in a war. not some “new age” war with that requires new tactics etc. that’s just excuse making. all wars are the same–you kill bad guys wherever you find them–in large quantities if you can. tell me, if during world war II we knew where hitler or any of his generals were would we have tried to kill them? come on now a little louder i can’t hear you. yes, that’s right, we would have.
well, we know where the terror leaders/generals of this war on terror live and sleep every night. the leaders of iran, syria, hamas, hezzbollah, al sadr and sudan are very easy to find–yet we let them plan everyday how to kill more of us in their attempt to return the world to the 7th century. so please stop with this crap about massive air strikes, millions of dead and dying and all these other hobgoblins that are trotted out to prevent us from killing these monstrous bastards. what’s it going to take–israel becoming a glass factory? 9/11 certainly was not enough…….
michael leeden’s articles can be very informative–but boring. how much anecdotal evidence do we need over the last thirty years to conclude that there are loosely united groups centered in the middle east that mean to bring us down. they are funded and directed by the countries listed above. please stop acting surprised when this info shows up. this “i’m shocked, i’m shocked” routine is getting old. the leadership in syria and iran should have been gone two years ago along with al sadr. now look at the mess we are in.
and finally, all these monsters have to “cruise missiled” without any warning on the same night.
Daley-boy
Enjoy the adept jihad bridge hit on the occupier yesterday? Last I heard, three dead and seven or so wounded and an important artery destroyed. Don’t let your version of “Center’s Greatest Hits” you outline above distract you from the ongoing defeat.
“Support the troops; bring ’em home !”
Daley-boy
Enjoy the adept bridge hit against the occupier yesterday?
Last I heard, three dead, seven or so wounded and a vital artery
destroyed. Don’t let your version of “Center’s Greatest Hits”
distract you from the ongoing defeat.
“Support the troops, bring ’em home.”
Sorry if this is a repeat. Last post didn’t register.
Daley Boy
Thanks for the “Centers Greatest Hits” paean, but aren’t you
busy figuring out how to spin the latest adept resistance hit,
the bridge hit yesterday that took out about fifteen soliders and destroyed an important central Iraq artery? Strata spinned it well-he simply omitted all mention!
http://www.onelocalnews.com/newhopecourier/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=121352
Enjoying the quagmire Dale? Thanks for the Centers Greatest Hits outline, but you shouldn’t have cut off “Islamofascist” from the
“any Moslem in the world” paragraph, as the reader did not have
ample context clues to grasp my excellent point, which also, as it happens ,hints at why you’re quagmired in Iraq-too many enemies.
“THECENTER”:
Anti-Hispanic
Anti-Semitic
Anti-American
Pro-Jihadi
Racist
Leftist
Quite an accomplishment, you should be proud of!
A nominally white ex-Marine(?) laden with white guilt.
Shelby Steele encourages your self-absolution.
The last two Popes from your pagan Empire-worship.
Mearsheimer and Walt from your subservience to a narrow
Lobby.
Left/Right? Who cares, you’re on the Israeli Right. I’m
an America Firster.
A nominally white ex-Marine(?) laden with white guilt.
Shelby Steele encourages your self-absolution.
The last two Popes from your pagan Empire-worship.
Mearsheimer and Walt from your subservience to a narrow
Lobby.
Left/Right? Who cares, you’re on the Israeli Right. I’m
an America Firster.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/869644.html
Iran is ready for Lieberman’s urged attacks.