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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-166210</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, meant &quot;has decided&quot; not &quot;has not decided&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, meant &#8220;has decided&#8221; not &#8220;has not decided&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-165909</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico city has not decided to allow abortions in the first trimester so we will begin to see the fertility rate (number of births per person) begin to drop and in 20 years time you should see the population of Mexico growth of Mexico begin to ease.    I am not commenting of the morals of that move, simply the impact of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexico city has not decided to allow abortions in the first trimester so we will begin to see the fertility rate (number of births per person) begin to drop and in 20 years time you should see the population of Mexico growth of Mexico begin to ease.    I am not commenting of the morals of that move, simply the impact of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobalt Shiva</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-165853</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobalt Shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Rest assured, if that Mexican bomb does go off, impeachment proceedings will follow shortly.&lt;/i&gt;

The two groups that eagerly look forward to and pin their political hopes on successful terrorist attacks taking place in this country:

1. Islamist terrorists and their &lt;i&gt;sputniki&lt;/i&gt;.

2. &quot;True patriot&quot; conservatives.

Why is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rest assured, if that Mexican bomb does go off, impeachment proceedings will follow shortly.</i></p>
<p>The two groups that eagerly look forward to and pin their political hopes on successful terrorist attacks taking place in this country:</p>
<p>1. Islamist terrorists and their <i>sputniki</i>.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;True patriot&#8221; conservatives.</p>
<p>Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: rlqretired</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-165791</link>
		<dc:creator>rlqretired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satrist â€“ I certainly hope he did say a prayer for me and someone up there read it for sure.

Dale â€“ The traitor call may be a little strong but the Presidents desire to achieve his goal to give amnesty to 12-20 million illegals by forcing that abomination of a bill through the Senate without a final copy of the bill even being available to those that opposed it and by trying establish that clay pigeon maneuver as a new Senate precedent comes pretty close. The bill itself was a security loophole disaster. 

Cobalt â€“ Your scenario assumes al-Qaeda is single headed. It is not. Self-inspired Radical Islamists are worldwide and I believe some of the Fort Dix six were found to have come across the Mexican border. Also, I didnâ€™t say these nuts are particularly smart but they are determined.

Rest assured, if that Mexican bomb does go off, impeachment proceedings will follow shortly. Remember the questions after 911, when did the president first know this was a national security problem??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satrist â€“ I certainly hope he did say a prayer for me and someone up there read it for sure.</p>
<p>Dale â€“ The traitor call may be a little strong but the Presidents desire to achieve his goal to give amnesty to 12-20 million illegals by forcing that abomination of a bill through the Senate without a final copy of the bill even being available to those that opposed it and by trying establish that clay pigeon maneuver as a new Senate precedent comes pretty close. The bill itself was a security loophole disaster. </p>
<p>Cobalt â€“ Your scenario assumes al-Qaeda is single headed. It is not. Self-inspired Radical Islamists are worldwide and I believe some of the Fort Dix six were found to have come across the Mexican border. Also, I didnâ€™t say these nuts are particularly smart but they are determined.</p>
<p>Rest assured, if that Mexican bomb does go off, impeachment proceedings will follow shortly. Remember the questions after 911, when did the president first know this was a national security problem??</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-165396</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That link was to an article about the area where some friends of mine just bought a really nice place.   It cost them about $250K.  The house across the street from me is selling for $949K (3br tract ranch home built in the early 1960&#039;s ... nothing special).  

http://www.banderasnews.com/real-estate/sales/homes.htm

It is currently all the rage for Silicon Valley retirement locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That link was to an article about the area where some friends of mine just bought a really nice place.   It cost them about $250K.  The house across the street from me is selling for $949K (3br tract ranch home built in the early 1960&#8242;s &#8230; nothing special).  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.banderasnews.com/real-estate/sales/homes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.banderasnews.com/real-estate/sales/homes.htm</a></p>
<p>It is currently all the rage for Silicon Valley retirement locations.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-165395</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t seen that way.  It is seen as the rich Americans moving down there and creating a demand for jobs so they don&#039;t have to go to America to find work.

http://www.banderasnews.com/0704/re-puntamita.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t seen that way.  It is seen as the rich Americans moving down there and creating a demand for jobs so they don&#8217;t have to go to America to find work.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.banderasnews.com/0704/re-puntamita.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.banderasnews.com/0704/re-puntamita.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the Rich Americans moving to Mexico and taking their Mexican houseboys and gardeners with them as servants is really gonna go over like a lead balloon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the Rich Americans moving to Mexico and taking their Mexican houseboys and gardeners with them as servants is really gonna go over like a lead balloon.</p>
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		<title>By: Bikerken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikerken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I lift my margarita glass in a toast, &quot;All hail the irrelevant!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I lift my margarita glass in a toast, &#8220;All hail the irrelevant!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with that.  Also, many Americans are retiring and moving to Mexico. There is a development boom going on all along the Pacific coast.  Many of the people that have a Mexican landscaper are moving to Mexico because the cost of living is too high to retire in California.  So the landscapers and roofers and housecleaners are moving back to mexico to service that economy.

Not to mention Mexico&#039;s liberalized abortion laws will begin to trim the population in  general.  But watch what happens when the boomers retire and 1/3 of our workforce is out of the labor market.  We are going to sorely need those immigrants then.

Or else factories and other businesses are going to close.   Think about that for a sec ... just about every small business owned by a boomer is set to close in the next 10 to 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that.  Also, many Americans are retiring and moving to Mexico. There is a development boom going on all along the Pacific coast.  Many of the people that have a Mexican landscaper are moving to Mexico because the cost of living is too high to retire in California.  So the landscapers and roofers and housecleaners are moving back to mexico to service that economy.</p>
<p>Not to mention Mexico&#8217;s liberalized abortion laws will begin to trim the population in  general.  But watch what happens when the boomers retire and 1/3 of our workforce is out of the labor market.  We are going to sorely need those immigrants then.</p>
<p>Or else factories and other businesses are going to close.   Think about that for a sec &#8230; just about every small business owned by a boomer is set to close in the next 10 to 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Aitch748</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4119/comment-page-7#comment-164859</link>
		<dc:creator>Aitch748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The main point for the United States is that we have only a temporary problem with illegal immigration from Mexico. For another decade or a bit more we must attempt to limit such entry, but then the problem will fade like the smile on the Cheshire Cat. Lou Dobbs, Rep. Tancredo and their xenophobic friends can calm down and relax.

See:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C&lt;/i&gt;

Now this is a fine article, assuming the facts are all on the up-and-up (e.g., on Mexico&#039;s fertility rate). The bit about Mexicans taking some of &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; culture back down to Mexico makes sense, too.

Wouldn&#039;t that be a real kick in the head if the death-before-compromise hard right will have turned out to have shot themselves in the foot over a problem that just might be going away in a couple of decades anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The main point for the United States is that we have only a temporary problem with illegal immigration from Mexico. For another decade or a bit more we must attempt to limit such entry, but then the problem will fade like the smile on the Cheshire Cat. Lou Dobbs, Rep. Tancredo and their xenophobic friends can calm down and relax.</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C</a></i></p>
<p>Now this is a fine article, assuming the facts are all on the up-and-up (e.g., on Mexico&#8217;s fertility rate). The bit about Mexicans taking some of <i>our</i> culture back down to Mexico makes sense, too.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that be a real kick in the head if the death-before-compromise hard right will have turned out to have shot themselves in the foot over a problem that just might be going away in a couple of decades anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: satrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>satrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...so many conspiracies, so little time.&lt;/i&gt;


Now there you go being a genuine satirist... thanks. Made me laugh out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;so many conspiracies, so little time.</i></p>
<p>Now there you go being a genuine satirist&#8230; thanks. Made me laugh out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: satrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>satrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush has a lot to do before he leaves office...has to get that SUPER highway built, change the world&#039;s money system to one currency, move the world toward ONE religion and oh yeah...get that North American Union thing going....so many conspiracies, so little time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush has a lot to do before he leaves office&#8230;has to get that SUPER highway built, change the world&#8217;s money system to one currency, move the world toward ONE religion and oh yeah&#8230;get that North American Union thing going&#8230;.so many conspiracies, so little time.</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found an interesting TCS column in my mailbox. I&#039;ll paste just the first and last paragraphs:

 	
&lt;b&gt;How the Mexican Immigration Problem Will Solve Itself&lt;/b&gt;

As the debate over illegal immigration from Mexico rages in Washington and across the country, and as the administration&#039;s reform bill hangs by a thread, few Americans are aware that this problem will automatically decline and eventually become a vague memory.

[...] The main point for the United States is that we have only a temporary problem with illegal immigration from Mexico. For another decade or a bit more we must attempt to limit such entry, but then the problem will fade like the smile on the Cheshire Cat. Lou Dobbs, Rep. Tancredo and their xenophobic friends can calm down and relax. 

See:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C

And there&#039;s lots of data out there indicating many natural economic forces at work... none of which ever entered this &quot;debate&quot; because it wasn&#039;t sexy enough or incendiary enough to generate a FoxNews Alert. The factors mentioned in the column, along with other common sense factors &amp; variables indicate that this suicidal brawl was not necessary at all, but part of a small minority&#039;s deeper paranoia and loony agenda. Did I mention that I actually heard Laura Ingraham laying out the &quot;New World Order&quot; conspiracy last week? Yeah, and guess who&#039;s at the nexus of it... it&#039;s a four-letter word that begins with B and ends with H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found an interesting TCS column in my mailbox. I&#8217;ll paste just the first and last paragraphs:</p>
<p><b>How the Mexican Immigration Problem Will Solve Itself</b></p>
<p>As the debate over illegal immigration from Mexico rages in Washington and across the country, and as the administration&#8217;s reform bill hangs by a thread, few Americans are aware that this problem will automatically decline and eventually become a vague memory.</p>
<p>[...] The main point for the United States is that we have only a temporary problem with illegal immigration from Mexico. For another decade or a bit more we must attempt to limit such entry, but then the problem will fade like the smile on the Cheshire Cat. Lou Dobbs, Rep. Tancredo and their xenophobic friends can calm down and relax. </p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C</a></p>
<p>And there&#8217;s lots of data out there indicating many natural economic forces at work&#8230; none of which ever entered this &#8220;debate&#8221; because it wasn&#8217;t sexy enough or incendiary enough to generate a FoxNews Alert. The factors mentioned in the column, along with other common sense factors &amp; variables indicate that this suicidal brawl was not necessary at all, but part of a small minority&#8217;s deeper paranoia and loony agenda. Did I mention that I actually heard Laura Ingraham laying out the &#8220;New World Order&#8221; conspiracy last week? Yeah, and guess who&#8217;s at the nexus of it&#8230; it&#8217;s a four-letter word that begins with B and ends with H.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is about extremism to me.  Intolerance of anything other than the &quot;correct&quot; way and everyone else be damned.  The far right behaves exactly the same way.  They don&#039;t care of they are going to walk themselves right into oblivion .. but by golly they are &quot;right&quot; and will never ever compromise because compromise to them is a dirty word that means going back on their principles or something.  And when people won&#039;t compromise and respect everyone *elses* principles and work to reach common ground, it simply results in a fight.  And this fight will be played out with votes and so they will find themselves voted right out of relevance.  And not a single politician will then care about what they call and write or post about because the Republicans are going to have just about zero power.  And the only way they are going to ever get that power back is to learn to compromise and take a little and give a little.

Extremism always loses in a free society because nobody likes having what is &quot;right&quot; shoved down their throats by someone who won&#039;t listen to reason and plays &quot;my way or the highway&quot;.  Those are the people that end up out on the highway.

We will see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is about extremism to me.  Intolerance of anything other than the &#8220;correct&#8221; way and everyone else be damned.  The far right behaves exactly the same way.  They don&#8217;t care of they are going to walk themselves right into oblivion .. but by golly they are &#8220;right&#8221; and will never ever compromise because compromise to them is a dirty word that means going back on their principles or something.  And when people won&#8217;t compromise and respect everyone *elses* principles and work to reach common ground, it simply results in a fight.  And this fight will be played out with votes and so they will find themselves voted right out of relevance.  And not a single politician will then care about what they call and write or post about because the Republicans are going to have just about zero power.  And the only way they are going to ever get that power back is to learn to compromise and take a little and give a little.</p>
<p>Extremism always loses in a free society because nobody likes having what is &#8220;right&#8221; shoved down their throats by someone who won&#8217;t listen to reason and plays &#8220;my way or the highway&#8221;.  Those are the people that end up out on the highway.</p>
<p>We will see.</p>
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