Jul 27 2007

Islam Is Tiring Of Islamo Fascism

Published by at 6:13 am under All General Discussions,Bin Laden/GWOT

The dream of Islamo Fascism, the take over of the world and the final elimination of the infidels, was a major part of the glue that held the ideaology together. It envisioned the Islamic Warriors fighting the Great Satan and destroying it and its evil influences. And through the 1990’s (thanks Bill) and culminating with 9-11, the dream was coming true. Then America began to tear that dream apart. And now Islamo Fascism is all about mass murdering Muslims for headlines. That is where we have come over nearly 6 years since 9-11.

And it is clear that Islam is tiring of Islamo Fascism. We see it in the polls on suicide bombings, we see it as Iraqis stand up and purge Iraq of al-Qaeda, and we see it as those who once fought the Great Satan realize how truly screwed up the whole idea was:

The last time Ahmed Al Shayea was in the news, he was in the hospital at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, being treated for severe burns from the truck bomb he had driven into the Iraqi capital on Christmas Day 2004.

Today, he says, he has changed his mind about waging jihad, or holy war, and wants other young Muslims to know it. He wants them to see his disfigured face and fingerless hands, to hear how he was tricked into driving the truck on a fatal mission, to believe his contrition over having put his family through the agony of believing he was dead.

At 22, the new Ahmed Al Shayea is the product of a concerted Saudi government effort to counter the ideology that nurtured the 9/11 hijackers and that has lured Saudis in droves to the Iraq insurgency. The deprogramming, similar to efforts carried out in Egypt and Yemen, is built on reason, enticements and lengthy talks with psychiatrists, Muslim clerics and sociologists.

I am sure there are many more muslims like this who are now truly regretting they fell for the lies of al-Qaeda.

37 responses so far

37 Responses to “Islam Is Tiring Of Islamo Fascism”

  1. ivehadit says:

    I hope will read this and see why we cannot attack All Muslims. It is the fascists of Islam that want to kill us all. We have to thread a very fine needle…

  2. crosspatch says:

    Here is another vital development on this topic.

    In a prison cell south of Cairo a repentant Egyptian terrorist leader is putting the finishing touches to a remarkable recantation that undermines the Muslim theological basis for violent jihad and is set to generate furious controversy among former comrades still fighting with al-Qaida.

    Sharif recently gave an electrifying foretaste of his conversion by condemning killings on the basis of nationality and colour of skin and the targeting of women and children, citing the Qur’anic injunction: “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress the limits; for God loveth not transgressors.” Armed operations were wrong, counterproductive and must cease, he declared sternly.

    Zawahiri, evidently rattled, rounded sarcastically on him in a video message broadcast after Sharif’s statement – faxed from Torah prison to an Arabic newspaper – announced not only his change of heart but a book-length repudiation endorsed by hundreds of other former militants, and which is due to be published soon.

    “When the book comes out there will be a furious reaction from Zawahiri and the global jihadi movement. It is clear that Sayid Imam will call a halt to killing operations in Egypt and abroad.”

    Diaa Rashwan, of the Al-Ahram Centre for Political and Strategic Studies, says: “I have no doubt that this is genuine. It will be a real shock and cause a lot of confusion. Jihadis will see hundreds of their former brothers criticising their most fundamental ideas. That’s why Zawahiri is so bothered by it.”

    Amazing stuff going on these days. It looks like sanity might be seeping back into the mainstream.

  3. Terrye says:

    I think too many people think that the entire religion is tainted, hopeless and dangerous. But we are talking about more than a billion people here and we can not fight them all. The Christian religion has gone through periods of violence and reform. It is time Islam reformed as well.

  4. kathie says:

    Holy Cow, look at what that evil George Bush started! Be proud America, you lead the way.

  5. MerlinOS2 says:

    I hope will read this and see why we cannot attack All Muslims. It is the fascists of Islam that want to kill us all. We have to thread a very fine needle…

    Left by ivehadit on July 27th, 2007

    Now that would be a good thing, and all would wish it but it is a true fact that in the history of Islam that each time something like this took hold it was only countered by a very bloody cauterisation of the wound to stop the bleeding.

    It may be trying to attiribute to much to suggest we can do as a world today surgical removal of only the bad actors to shut it down again.

    That may be a bit of hubris that will eventually die off with the turning to a mass response to just “make it stop”.

    We will see if history repeats and if so what level of cost it will take before it does. 

     

  6. lurker9876 says:

    Hey, Mer, you check Dr. Santy’s site of late?

    She talks about the cost of freedom as well as the predication of defeat.

    Both of you touched up on the same topic.

  7. ivehadit says:

    Mer, I know there is truth in what you say. I just don’t want to throw all the babies out with the bath water if we can work with those who can see our good intentions. All the others who can’t, we must not let them rule the day. I am one who wants the “good babies” to rise up and denounce the others. Send a message that we ALL will take up arms against them…

    And yes, I am of the opinion that all muslims are going to have to endure our suspicions for now. It is the price of what their religion has wrought…for now. And a small price to pay, imho. And an opportunity to show their generosity of spirit to us who are in the bullseye of their fanatics.

    G_d bless George W. Bush. Greater that ALL on Mt. Rushmore.

  8. MerlinOS2 says:

    Lurker

    HMMM do you have access to my blog list in my live bookmarks in Firefox or am I just that transparent?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  9. lurker9876 says:

    Mer, LOL! No. Guess it’s GMTA’s. IOW, you must be transparent! 🙂

    I just figured out how to install Mozilla Firefox and Adobe FlashPlayer as version upgrades on my SUSE Linux box from the Internet.

    Did you see how Schumer is playing the “Reject all Supreme Justice nominations” game? Schumer is playing the obstructionist game as usual.

    Anyone see that Noriega may be released?

    Wonder if Hizb’allah will incite another war against Israel now that they claim 20,000 rockets…

  10. MerlinOS2 says:

    Ivehadit

    I don’t know how to really phrase this without being slighted with names I don’t deserve just pointing it out, but exactly what you propose in your last comment was what in the historic past allowed the situation to grow to where it eventually was dealt with in whole horrific manners.

    There is a fault line in the words of the basic books of that religion that has been repeatedly exploited by others more than once to incite the followers to amazing fits of rage and other activities.

    Look at all the outrage with the God of their choice cartoons and the flushing of their Holy Book stories.

    I am religious myself and can’t understand how others are not, but that is just my view.

    But domestically we seem to have more throwing fire bombs at the Christian Right for all their own reasons.

    But in the history of the world the Muslim issue is a whole different thing.

    I don’t know if you have ever been in a Muslim dominated country, but it really isn’t like here at all.

    When you are there you see how their religion pervades every piece of their life more than the most caricatured Bible Thumper in this country could even be accused of.

    There is a real disconnect here as to how that all works.

    You have do have done some travel to have seen it.

  11. MerlinOS2 says:

    Lurker

    Glad I made your day.

    On other issues…SUSE for crying out loud!

    I have techs here running about 9 or 10 distros variations and all of them toss that one like an ugly bad sister.

    Try Debian or something that has wheels that don’t fall off on their own accord.

  12. MerlinOS2 says:

    BTW I will throw rotten eggs at the first sucker that mentions Red Hat Linux to me.

    A bad bunch of groupies who think they are the antiMicrosoft antiCrhist.

    Other alternatives are much better. I have old Pentium and 286 based puters running linux versions here that kick butt on high powered performance robbed windows based machines. I have got the bench marks and can prove it.

    I have windows based servers that strain when 20 people log in and Linux boxes doing a thousand and saying I’m bored give me something to do.

    When I get outside of the puter box I live in so much from day to day and do real world access I see mostly a world that is not real world based.

    I have the advantage of being able to fund as much hardware as I need to do my bidding for all my own purposes.

    I also realize 99% of the world cant do that and I adjust my view to that when I try to comment on general conditions that effect us all.

  13. crosspatch says:

    I have been using Debian in production for many years at work. It was my first task on taking on operations there. We migrated everything from Windows to Linux and our server capacity improved greatly. Debian works for me because I must keep hundreds of machines updated all across the US. I can log in over the network and upgrade machines from my livingroom. Most times I don’t even need to reboot after the upgrade, simply restarting any updated software that might be running. I never need to visit the sites or physically touch a machine.

  14. MerlinOS2 says:

    CP

    I know most will not recognize this , but the most reliable servers I have here run OS/2 Warp 4 enterprise versions that haven’t been rebooted in 8 or 10 years.

    Even the Linux machines can touch it for reliability and just plain working as promised.

    Each windows machine has a background heartbeat task running to reboot that dog each time it’s needed.

    I have one OS/2 based machine which monitors them for health messages saying they are ok and remotely boots them if they don’t send the all’s well message after enough time.

    My users don’t notice because the load balancers kick the load out to a number of machines to keep on ticking but the reboot count tells the story.

    Heck this machine I am on right now is running XP and at least once a day I have to do a restart just to hold up an internet connection so it can find sites.

  15. MerlinOS2 says:

    I have a complete virtualized environment running here. Right now I am switching out drives on some servers putting in hot swap drives of Terabyte capacities to ease the pain of 3 tier migration of data of networked NAS servers. The way the software is written each byte of available space eliminates the access load it pushes out to each other partner to do the deeds it needs to do.

    Backending the whole mess I have two IBM Zeus servers with a massive NAS based storage array that handles the whole data migration mess in a manageable fashion totally transparent to the users.

    Users don’t see the internal networks movement of data to each stage of the migration but it’s all about frequency of use.

    The more you pack rat stuff the lower the probability someone will pick out a hit on a particular file to access.

    OS/2 can handle 2 Terabyte files with ease Linux can handle less and don’t even talk to me about windows in that context.

    Did you know that OS/2 systems don’t even have a disk optimizer program in their needed suite of software.

    I have windows machines that spend hours offline just to optimize access to their files.

    It’s not like I don’t get a lot of access to files of all kinds at random moments. I have tripple redundant OC-3 lines her to handle the data flow and some times I have over 80% loading of that capability. I would upgrade it but analysis has shown the net is weaker than my sourcing capability to transport the data to end users and its not my end that is the weakness.

    Sometimes I almost feel that it would be worthwhile to start up my own NAP just to iron out the kinks.

  16. lurker9876 says:

    LOL! It was Huntsville, Alabama that convinced JSC to convert from the old Tru64 Alpha 4.0 version to Redhat Linux. So we spent the last two and a half years porting and rewriting some of our software to Redhat Linux. We use IBM’s AIX for the biggest servers we use to store our several GIGs per delivery and we store more than one delivery. A delivery is made up of different baselines. The servers are also used for archivals, non-software data storage, log and audit files, and so on.

    Some of us personally think that Huntsville is looking to take over our Mission Control Center since we are moving our backup control center from Moscow to Huntsville, which would allow our emergency flight control team to monitor remotely from out of town via secure laptops (Microsoft Windows based).

    My brother gave me one of his laptops, which he loaded Suse. He gave me a choice between Suse and Ubuntu. He was not as familiar with Ubuntu as he is with Suse. So I picked Suse. He does not like Microsoft at all. And I wanted a laptop loaded with the OS as close to the one we use at work so that I can learn a few things at home to help me perform my job better.

    Oh, too bad that OS/2 never took off. It failed in spite of its quality and marketing. I never understood why, though.

  17. lurker9876 says:

    Oh, forgot to add a link, Mer!

    What do you think about this history

    Rather interesting about Cassius Clay…remember him? Well, nothing before the world knew him very well…

    And how about the warrantless wiretaps on Clay????

  18. lurker9876 says:

    Not sure what this means….

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017557.php

    U.S. Set to Offer Huge Arms Deal to Saudi Arabia in return for in part by promising Israel $30.4 billion in military aid over the next decade, a significant increase over what Israel has received in the past 10 years.

  19. MerlinOS2 says:

    Durn girl your still reading my live bookmarks folder, but then with approaching 200 blogs in there right now it’s sort of a big target to hit.

  20. MerlinOS2 says:

    Oh, too bad that OS/2 never took off. It failed in spite of its quality and marketing. I never understood why, though.

    Left by lurker9876 on July 28th, 2007

     It was purely because of Bill Gates intervention.  There was even a lawsuit about it and eventually MS held up release of Win95 to IBM till like a day or two before it went on sale leaving IBM with lost sales for weeks before they could ship units with 95 pre loaded.

    It was proven MS was holding the gun to the heads of a lot of people who wanted to develop device drivers for OS/2 but didn’t want their 95 water cut off.