“Open Thread!
July 24th, 2007
Hey all; so sorry; business travel and vacation; NO IDEA what happened to “Apache”; I haven’t even been able to look at Blog in 2 weeks!

I’ll try and track him down tomorrow, and I’ll get something up within 24hours; have lots to write about!

I don’t even waste my time over a AJ’s any more, can you say “echo chamber”?

Written by Dale InAtlanta – Visit Website
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Wow, Dale, for someone who thinks AJ’s website is an echo chamber, you come here a lot.

I guess youre here to just badger dissenters since you cant pull their comments like you did mine over at your website. HA HA HA.

Bush was in the Air Guard, like it or not the fact is that people in the Air Guard might see action, whereas college boys running around a foreign country and ignoring the selective service generally do not.

You are pathetic soothie, it is the same crap from people like you year after year after year. Chimpy the evil genius dummie draft dodger chicken hawk baby killer oil man blah blah blah.

Calling this President a liar, etc. is a compliment coming from ANYONE on the Left. Afterall, it depends on what the meaning of is, is to determine what is truth. HAH! What a joke!
Hey, pick your sides. We are proud to be on the side of George W. Bush and will be for years to come.

Anyhoo, Rich, The CIA and State tried repeatedly and to this day to sabatoge this administration. It was not their (cia/state)incompetence, it was their INTENT to undermine a sitting President during a time of war. Have you read, ” Sabatoge” by Rowan Scarborough? I have only seen exerpts…but will be reading it. VERY interesting things in this book.

Let’s re-hash shall we:
Gonzales will be gone within the month (March 20, 2007). It’s almost August and whatayaknow? He’s still there. An honorable and decent man who is taking one for the gipper.

Iraq: movin’ and shakin’. Winning in soccer. People celebrating in the streets. Wow. We are building an embassy there, largest in the world, no? And have an airfield already…Gee sounds like good work to me-protecting and securing those oil fields and establishing a presence in the heart of the Middle East…Cleaning the swamps…

Conflict_________Combat___Other___Total deaths

Revolutionary War 4,435 (unknown) 4,435

War of 1812 2,260 (unknown) 2,260

Mexican War 1,733 11,550 13,283

Civil War 184,594 373,458 558,052

Spanish-

American War 385 2,061 2,446

World War I 53,513 63,195 116,708

World War II 292,131 115,185 407,316

Korean War 33,651 (unknown) 33,651

Vietnam War 47,369 10,799 58,168

Gulf War 148 145 293

Iraq War 3,196 709 3,905

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Just a little perspective on what could really happen to us and our military. G_d bless each and every soul who, through the years, has given their life for my freedom.

I wonder if he will come back when he is shown how wrong he has been.

2nd, Areas of Iraq where the disaster stories are plentiful…are also the most dangerous. They have relied heavily (and for which for some has now become standard proc) on stringers and unvetted, second and third-hand stories which are sometimes conduits for enemy propeganda or misinformation used to influence.

3rd, they are switching back the other way now….because they are starting to fear what will happen should we actually withdraw to the sidelines to standby and watch genocide take place and extremist or other armed groups representing religious elements topple the gov and take over Iraq and it’s resources.

If people felt that such media rags were parroting liberal causes or taking sides with them….and they do….they will hold them just as responsible for what’s going to happen in Iraq should we take the avenue that they have not only supported, but have sought to influence with exaggerated and non-objective news, and it turns out to be another big mistake. As well, the above practices of the NYT in particular has caused them to loose so much money and readership that their own board has revolted several times to do something to stop the losses.

Draft-dodging, drunk-driving cowards is what you elected . . . and you’ll be lapping up the Kool-Aid til the bitter end.

Tell me, if we run away and there is genocide, how do you think the American people will feel about that? My guess is if you think you can blame it on the Rethuglicans you will feel just fine.

This is from Just one Minute :

Well, I was duly shocked the second time around, when the Times finally reported it. But let’s press on:

The Times and CBS News conducted a poll from July 9 to July 17 with 1,554 adults, mostly about Hillary Clinton. There were a few questions about the other presidential candidates, about President Bush and about the war, but most of the poll was about Mrs. Clinton.

The polling took place during a week when there was no shortage of news about the war. Congress was debating the war; the Bush administration issued a report saying the Iraqi government had failed to meet many of the benchmarks it was supposed to meet; and prominent Republicans were distancing themselves from Mr. Bush on Iraq.

In the poll, The Times and CBS News posed a standard question that asks respondents to think back to the invasion. Specifically, the poll asked: “Looking back, do you think the United States did the right thing in taking military action against Iraq, or should the United States have stayed out?”

Forty-two percent of those polled said the United States did the right thing, and 54 percent said the United States should have stayed out of Iraq. The last time the question was asked, in May, 35 percent said taking military action against Iraq was the right thing and 61 percent said the United States should have stayed out.

In reality, they were not only among the biggest cheerleaders for the war, but repeatedly praised the Pentagon’s strategy in Iraq and continuously assured Americans things were going well. This is nothing new . . . only more of the same lies and misrepresentations.

Bee-you-ti-fool!

\”Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?\”

ALL adults 25 69 6
Republicans 57 38 5
Democrats 5 93 2
Independents 24 70 6

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I’m not absolving the Bush admin from errors made but there is no playbook for Iraq. Its clear that some original assessments were overly optimistic, and we all underestimated the brutality of Al-Qaeda but the job was made incredibly more difficult by the incompetency of the CIA and the State department as well as the impact of the US’s doing nothing in 1991 when we let Saddam attempt to commit genicide against the Kurds and shiites.