Not unable, just not inclined. You can duly note whatever you want to. I don’t give a damn about that either, oh, troll of many names.

How did he not get equal justice? Was he not confronted with charges, asked for a plea with the understanding that if he pleaded innocent, he would be provided a fair trail? Is there something else he should have received in order to provide equal justice? I mean, it’s not like he was put into a navy brig for 3 years and tortured, was he?

The record shows that, despite his claim to the contrary, Craig consulted his attorney, and put that attorney in touch with the authorities in Minneapolis prior to submitting his plea. In the 2 months between his arrest and his plea, he had ample time to consider consequences. Had he truly been innocent, then at the very least he would have pleaded nolo contendere rather than declare himself guilty.

So, I’m sorry, I see no evidence that Craig received a worse standard of justice than anyone else in this country.

And also, Barbara, I notice you were unable to substantiate your claim about the cyclist. Duly noted.

But of course, I’m sure this has nothing to do with the fact that Craig is a republican. I assume that, for everyone who gets arrested and pleads guilty, you come out with a claim that it was the cops’ fault for being out of control, right?

That’s a fine dodge. Since you weren’t forthcoming, I did a search for “Larry Craig cyclist,” and the best I could find were some comments attached to a blog, alleging that a “cyclist” (unnamed) was arrested, tazed and beaten by “Minneapolis Airport cops.” No links to any actual news stories about this, just generally vague comments about “the cyclist” such as you have provided.

I understand your desire to believe it was the cops’ fault. I assume your ability to believe this story is based largely on faith that no republican could ever be a toilet trader. However, if you want other people to also believe this story, perhaps you can provide a bit more detail. Is there actually a verified story about this? If so, can you point me to it?

This only proves you have not kept up with this story and just jumped in to trash a republican. What an opportunity for you.

Left by SallyVee on August 30th, 2007

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Damn, you GOT me!

I admit it, I’m GAY!

I also resign, as I should, because I’m a lying, hypocrite, who seeks anonymous dangerous sex with men in filthy public restrooms, while I’m married with a wife and grandchildren, and I vote against gay rights, and discuss my committment to family values!

See, it’s not so hard to do the correct thing now, is it?

Everyone has been wagging their tongues about Larry Craig and Republicans on the Hill have been calling for his resignation for the guilty plea on a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct.
The Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport Police Dept. has released th…

Who is “the cyclist” and what evidence did he/she provide to draw you to that conclusion?

I am wondering how the cop could charge Craig on such a flimsy basis and get away with it.

Okay, then consider this. If an “out of control cop” wrongfully accused you of being a toilet trader, and his case was “flimsy” as you believe this case is, would you plead guilty?

I find it more interesting that your reading comprehension is such that you only managed to glean that one point. I made others.

In this thread:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4338

I pointed out that contrary to the post’s title, Craig is not in fact innocent. He pleaded guilty, which, you know, is kinda the opposite of innocent. But of course, you know that because you’re in pre-law (a dubious claim if ever there was one, but let’s accept it). One day you’ll learn even more, like what “nolo contendere” means.

I pointed out that, in many cases, republican “family values” type candidates are wallowing in hypocrisy, not unlike yourself.

And finally, in this thread we’re on now, I’ve got another point to make. I have no issue with the title of this thread: to republicans nowadays, I accept that convicted toilet traders are about the closest thing they’ve got to “great politicians.” I’m so sorry your “great politician” “went down.” But hey, Manuel Noriega is getting out of prison soon, and he was a great partner of republicans in the past.

No, it doesn’t.

Crzy4politks went on to say:
“You only hate Craig cause he is a Republican. And Clinton never did anything wrong. He was the best president ever. The problem with our society is the way they group people together and stereotype. Good Job!! Way to drink the Kool Aid”

And your proof of this is…what exactly, other than your desire to paint me with the same hypocrite brush that I’ve already painted you?

Well, here’s the problem with that. I’ve already pointed out my disgust at the hypocrisy of politicians on either side of the fence, and mentioned William Jefferson. As far as the rest of your comments, you clearly pulled them out of your ass.

Crzy, I’m here to tell you, making baseless assertions about me as a means of recovering your own lost self-respect is a non-starter.

But, at least we got this far: at least you’ve admitted (at least tacitly) that the reason you’re supporting Craig is simply because he’s a republican. There, doesn’t it feel better to have that out in the open? Enough with the silly legal mumbo-jumbo, just say it! “Republicans have a much lower standard of behavior than Democrats.”

There are many differences between you and I, Terrye, and one of them is this: I take issue with hypocrisy on either side of the aisle, not just one side. I don’t support Barney Frank, and I don’t support Larry Craig. You, on the other hand, you support Craig because he’s a republican, regardless of what a hypocrite he is. You’re fine with an anti-gay marriage “family values” republican being a toilet trader, and don’t see any problem with the radical mis-match between his rhetoric and behavior. I expect that kind of personal hypocrisy is essential to being a republican, no?

As I mentioned above (and will copy here), my issue with Craig is this:

“Knowing Governor Mitt Romney is knowing someone who, first and foremost, has very strong family values. That is something I grew up with and believe in.”
-Larry Craig

Now, given that Craig claims that Romney (a presidential candidate) shares his values, and given that Craig’s values include having anonymous sex in public restrooms, this comment by Craig is very interesting. Sure, you don’t care, simply because it makes a republican look bad, but that’s why you’re a partisan hack rather than a real thinking American. Those of us who are incensed by staggering hypocrisy by our elected officials, regardless of their party (be it William Jefferson’s $90k in the freezer, Mark Foley’s oh-so-disgusted rhetoric against Clinton in the 90s, or David Vitter’s style of legislating morality while gratifying himself) find this kind of story certainly to be worth knowing about.

You don’t, I understand. But rather than struggle through redefining language or floating crazy legal theories (or in your case, yammering about Barney Frank, as if he were in any way relevant to this), why not just disclose the fact that you want to defend Craig because he’s a republican? Sometimes, even in politics, you’ll still find that honesty is the best policy.