Sep 03 2007

The Clintons And Able Danger

I am sure many have forgotten about Able Danger (see here for my many posts on the mater), a prototype data mining intelligence program that was begun in 1998 by the NSA and folks in the Pentagon to see if data mining technology, applied to publically available data sets, could help identify terrorists. The claim, never really proved, was the Able Danger program had identified the 9-11 highackers prior to 9-11 and no one paid attention because it was a prototype evaluation program, not a fully operational capability the Intelligence Community had confidence in.

One of the more infuriating aspects of the entire story was the fact that our intelligence tools were shut down because the test program for this technology unearthed possibly incriminating information about the Clintons and their administration. One of the many posts I have on this aspect of the story is here. I am dredging up this old news because it probably plays into some of the current news involving the Clintons and their ties to Chinese spies (i.e., illustrates the nexus of Clinton greed and Clinton naiveté’). This is because the Able Danger program was rapidly (and possibly illegally) shut down because its sister technology demonstration program, investigating US connections to Chinese technology, came up with high level names.

It was this unfortunate and accidental discovery connecting China’s efforts to acquire our technology with high ranking Clinton administration officials that triggered a complete shutdown of the data mining efforts against al-Qeada. The fear of this technology was so prevelant someone decided chasing terrorists was less important than covering someone’s butt. We never learned who was connected to the Chinese spies (outside Condi Rice, who would not be someone the Clinton administration would work so hard to cover for).

The reason I bring this up is to echo what Mac Ranger is saying about the Clintons and the myriad of China scandals that dogged their administration, and where never really investigated.

While the MSM continues to largely ignore the reemerging ‘China Gate scandal’ that I believe will either fatally wound or will outright derail her candidacy, it’s really time to call Hillary Clinton in her constant denials of culpability.

The word is very different from the loose and wild days of the Clinton administration. We take things much more seriously since 9-11, since we now appreciate how what seems to be trivial can have terrible consequences. The problems the Clintons had with Chinese agents spreading large amounts of money around dogged them constantly (and Al Gore and is fundraiser at a Temple known for frugality and rejection of personal gain). Will the pliant MSM cover for the Clintons again? Honestly I doubt it. They did their job once and it cost them their reputation and respect of the country. I doubt they see any reason to do it again.

17 responses so far

17 Responses to “The Clintons And Able Danger”

  1. cali_sun says:

    The recently fugitive/arrested, and released HSU was also part of the China Scandal; Clinton allowing sensitive material to be sold, and transferred for cash.
    I hope that the blogsphere is keeping this story up, and don’t allow it to diasappear this time. The other fugitive pakistani, the corrupt Gupta, and others are all in on forcing a Clinton into the Whitehouse.
    This can’t happen ever, the Clinton are corrupt, sleazy, and will never hesitate to sell America out.

  2. MerlinOS2 says:


    As you know, I have harped on you in thread comments and personal emails of how the China connection was the reason Able Danger got shut down as collateral damage by the Clinton administration because they wanted to appear to be shutting them all down because of legality small points rather than reveal the object in their sights which was the China thing.

    I think even the media knows that if the Clintons get back in power they will be stuck with the choice of presenting their pablum and being more discounted as a venue or they will have to become a real news source again if they wish to survive.

    If Clinton should survive and win, I predict that it wont be the love fest with the press we saw the last time around.

  3. MerlinOS2 says:

    Try this on for size and it comes from a left of center source.

    Sant S. Chatwal, an Indian American businessman, has helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaigns, even as he battled governments on two continents to escape bankruptcy and millions of dollars in tax liens.

    The founder of the Bombay Palace restaurant chain, Chatwal is one of a growing number of fundraisers in the 2008 presidential campaign whose backgrounds have prompted questions about how much screening the candidates devote to their “bundlers” while they press to raise record amounts.


  4. Carol J says:

    Or this one:

    If WND can make these connections, so can WaPo and the NYTimes.

  5. owl says:

    My favorite bug under the glass is the MSM. They have given their all for Obama……but……they will protect Clintons. They proved it when Bill was accused of RAPE and they did the Silence. You can not do the Silence on rape and not be prepared to go all the way.

    Ask yourself when was the last time you watched and listened to Howard Dean or Pelosi make fools of themselves. That is pure MSM Silence. They had a problem. They have eliminated it. The MSM is so powerful that Hillary can put Hsu on the Cabinet and the general public would never know a thing about him.

    You don’t hear Howard’s mouth and yes, WaPo and NYT can make the connections……..but you will not see it 365 days as you did Abu Ghraib. No, it will be like that guy without a name to be found on the front page of the NYT. That little Berger guy.

  6. MerlinOS2 says:


    The New School has basically purged any link to Hsu from their website. They even removed the mention of the scholarship they offered in his name off their financial assistance page.

    BUT there still is a link they cant change due to laws of accounting standards they don’t want to touch.

    Read the pdf file of their last year annual report, he is still listed there as being a new board member for the year the report was filed.

    Next year it will be down the memory hole.

  7. MerlinOS2 says:

    google +hsu +”new school” and you will come up with a link to the financial assistance page over on their website, but when you get there his name is gone.

    Here is a capture of the original search result which doesn’t match the page content now.

    Eugene Lang College :: Admissions :: Financing Your Education …
    Eugene Lang College The New School for Liberal Arts Scholarships … Norman Hsu Scholarship. Endowed by Norman Hsu, a board member at Eugene Lang College, … – 67k – Cached – Similar pages – Note this

  8. MerlinOS2 says:

    To make it even easier here is a better search string

    +hsu +”new school”

    Even that search comes up with a bunch of tidbits I have to look at.

  9. MerlinOS2 says:

    Wow an item they didn’t catch in their purge.

    2006 Benefit Leadership

    American International Group, Inc. The Durst Organization
    The Durst Organization
    Robert R. Dyson, The Dyson-Kissner-Moran Corporation
    Julien J. Studley, The Julien J. Studley Foundation
    Daniel R. Tishman, Tishman Realty & Construction Co., Inc.

    Allen & Company, Paul A. Gould, Nancy B. Peretsman, and Philip Scaturro
    Henry H. Arnhold, Arnhold and S. Bleichroeder Holdings, Inc.
    ASM Mechanical Systems
    Component Assembly Systems, Inc.
    Paul W. Critchlow, Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
    Mr. and Mrs. Michael E. Gellert
    Mr. and Mrs. Robert F. Hoerle
    Norman Hsu
    Sheila C. Johnson
    Permasteelisa Cladding Technologies, L.P.
    Bernard and Irene Schwartz
    Zwicker Electric Co., Inc.


    Note carefully the linkage between Hsu and Schwartz, it is recurring and will become important down the line. 

  10. MerlinOS2 says:

    Yet another search engine result that comes up empty when you look at the purged page.

    Eugene Lang College :: About :: Administration :: Board of

    Norman Hsu Daniel J. McSweeney Rodney W. Nichols Marylin Prince Malcolm B. Smith 2007 The New School | Comments email to: – 57k – CachedSimilar pagesNote this


  11. MerlinOS2 says:

    here we have another link to a bit of info about Hsu they couldn’t hide.

    Norman Hsu Scholarship. Endowed by Norman Hsu, a board member at

    Eugene Lang College, this scholarship is awarded to students with a strong

    academic recorrd



  12. Carol J says:

    It is happening right before our eyes.

  13. Carol J says:


    Are you ready for your close-up, Hillary?

  14. Here is something for you to consider, via reading this Worldnetdaily column :

    Many of the techniques that made the Able Danger possible are now available to private data mining firms that
    1) Republican party factions not affiliated with the various Presidential campaigns,
    2) Conservative groups,
    3) some bloggers and
    4) the larger Conservative talk radio hosts,
    can all now hire.

    Hsu directly connects Hillary 2008 to that 1996 Chinese influence buying campaign for Clinton 1996.

    Can you say “Swift Boat 2008?”

  15. Charles R. Smith over at has an article on Hsu and the Chinese missile connection here:

    A passage from that link is clipped below:

    One would think the Democrats are getting tired of the Arkansas dynasty and all that it brings to the forefront of American justice. Yet, Hillary has another major donor linked to China scandals that few talk about. Former Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz has made massive donations to the Democrat Party and its associated 527 liberal advocacy groups. In fact, Schwartz has donated nearly $4 million to the DNC and Hillary Clinton.

    Schwartz has a long donation history with the Clintons. In a September 1994 memo to then President Clinton, Harold Ickes, White House chief of staff, informed him that Schwartz could be used to raise campaign donations “in order to raise an additional $3,000,000 to permit the Democratic National Committee to produce and air generic TV/radio spots as soon as Congress adjourns.”

    Ickes then urged Clinton to invite Schwartz to the White House “to impress [him] with the need to raise $3,000,000 within the next two weeks.” In another memo, Ickes informed Clinton that Schwartz “is prepared to do anything he can for the administration.” Between October 1995 and March 1996, as Clinton mulled over whether to ignore State, Justice, and Defense Departments’ reasons against granting Loral waivers to export advanced military technology to China, Loral Chairman Bernard Schwartz injected more than $150,000 into the DNC’s coffers.

    In 1996, President Clinton moved the oversight of satellite exports from the State and Defense Departments to the Commerce Department. After Clinton’s decision to lift the ban in Loral’s case and to allow the exportation of the company’s technology to the Chinese military, Loral CEO Schwartz handed over an additional $300,000 to the DNC.

    Yet, in 1994 President Clinton personally authorized Schwartz to meet with a key Chinese politico — Commissioner Shen Roujun. It is here the story gets real interesting.

    There are those who claim that the Clinton administration only lied to the world about sex. The claims are wrong because I was a witness to the smashing of the biggest Clinton lie. I am not a lawyer but I have won three out of four cases brought before a federal court. The wins were against the best lawyers that the government could buy. The victories also came at a cost, not to me, but to the credibility of the U.S. government and the Clinton presidency.

    The first and most damaging lie that the Clinton lawyers made was that the Chinese commissioner, Shen, was a civilian representative of the communist government. This claim, and the accompanying claim of personal and business privacy made on behalf of Loral and Bernard Schwartz, was made before Federal Judge Robert Payne.

    The claim was part of an elaborate effort to deny access to over 1,000 pages of information dealing with Shen and his so-called civilian organization, the Commission of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense (COSTIND).

    When the Clinton lawyers finished I, in turn, dropped a complete bio of Gen. Shen Roujun on Payne’s desk. The dossier on Shen included his current military status and details about COSTIND, the military unit he was in.

    Shen was not only second in charge of COSTIND but the unit itself is run entirely by and for the Chinese army. It is charged with obtaining advanced military technology for Chinese nuclear weapons. To say that Payne was upset is an understatement. While many judges facing Clinton administration lawyers took lying for granted, Payne threatened to lock all of the U.S. government attorneys up and throw away the key if he did not have the 1,000 pages of withheld materials on his desk in 48 hours.

  16. Hsu is an associate of Bernard Schwartz…

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