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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4539/comment-page-1#comment-221853</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your first mistake was believing the AP.

General Sanchez&#039;s &lt;i&gt;nightmare&lt;/i&gt; isn&#039;t about the war, but rather the incompetent strategic leadership that includes Capitol Hill.

&lt;blockquote&gt;There has been a glaring, unfortunate, display of incompetent strategic leadership within our national leaders. As a Japanese proverb says, â€œaction without vision is a nightmareâ€ there is no question that &lt;i&gt;America is living A nightmare with no end in sight&lt;/i&gt;.

Since 2003, the politics of war have been characterized by partisanship as the republican and democratic parties struggled for power in washington. National efforts to date have been corrupted by partisan politics that have prevented us from devising effective, executable, supportable solutions. At times, these partisan struggles have led to political decisions that endangered the lives of our sons and daughters on the battlefield. &lt;b&gt;The unmistakable message was that political power had greater priority than our national security objectives.&lt;/b&gt; Overcoming this strategic failure is the first step toward achieving victory in Iraq - without bipartisan cooperation we are doomed to fail. &lt;b&gt;There is nothing going on today in Washington that would give us hope.&lt;/b&gt;

- General Sanchez&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny how the AP made it sound different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your first mistake was believing the AP.</p>
<p>General Sanchez&#8217;s <i>nightmare</i> isn&#8217;t about the war, but rather the incompetent strategic leadership that includes Capitol Hill.</p>
<blockquote><p>There has been a glaring, unfortunate, display of incompetent strategic leadership within our national leaders. As a Japanese proverb says, â€œaction without vision is a nightmareâ€ there is no question that <i>America is living A nightmare with no end in sight</i>.</p>
<p>Since 2003, the politics of war have been characterized by partisanship as the republican and democratic parties struggled for power in washington. National efforts to date have been corrupted by partisan politics that have prevented us from devising effective, executable, supportable solutions. At times, these partisan struggles have led to political decisions that endangered the lives of our sons and daughters on the battlefield. <b>The unmistakable message was that political power had greater priority than our national security objectives.</b> Overcoming this strategic failure is the first step toward achieving victory in Iraq &#8211; without bipartisan cooperation we are doomed to fail. <b>There is nothing going on today in Washington that would give us hope.</b></p>
<p>- General Sanchez</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny how the AP made it sound different.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarbaraS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is slightly off topic but look at the foreign affairs committee in the house&#039;s resolution about the Armenians in WW1.  Why in the world would they take such a step over an event of almost 100 years ago except to ruin the Bush administration&#039;s  relationship with the Turks and mess up the Iraq war by the back door with the Kurds.  The Turkish Kurds are attacking the Turkish army from Iraq and are causing enought trouble there.  Now the Turks are angry and have sent our ambassador home.  This is another case of the dems and some republicans trying to run US foreign policy.  This was a mistake of some magnitude and the Bush administration asked them not to do it but they did it anyway.  Now concessions will have to be made to appease the Turks.  Otherwise the Turks might invade Iraq to fight the Turkish Kurds on the formerly peaceful Kurdish part of Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is slightly off topic but look at the foreign affairs committee in the house&#8217;s resolution about the Armenians in WW1.  Why in the world would they take such a step over an event of almost 100 years ago except to ruin the Bush administration&#8217;s  relationship with the Turks and mess up the Iraq war by the back door with the Kurds.  The Turkish Kurds are attacking the Turkish army from Iraq and are causing enought trouble there.  Now the Turks are angry and have sent our ambassador home.  This is another case of the dems and some republicans trying to run US foreign policy.  This was a mistake of some magnitude and the Bush administration asked them not to do it but they did it anyway.  Now concessions will have to be made to appease the Turks.  Otherwise the Turks might invade Iraq to fight the Turkish Kurds on the formerly peaceful Kurdish part of Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4539/comment-page-1#comment-221456</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation doesn&#039;t just apply to Iraq.

All you have to do is look at the saga of Green Helmet and the Reuters fauxtography the Al Dura film and the reporting of TNR by Scott Beauchamp.

Disinformation by the bad guys should be an expected thing, that is why skepticism is a healthy attitude to make the buyer beware.&#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation doesn&#8217;t just apply to Iraq.</p>
<p>All you have to do is look at the saga of Green Helmet and the Reuters fauxtography the Al Dura film and the reporting of TNR by Scott Beauchamp.</p>
<p>Disinformation by the bad guys should be an expected thing, that is why skepticism is a healthy attitude to make the buyer beware.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sanchez is bitter, that much is obvious by his tone.

I think he is blaming, but himself.
 
And I also think there is some truth in much of what he says, but then again he does not and did not offer realistic alternatives to the policy in place...Patreaus did and I think that is what makes him the most bitter.

But he is right in that the soldiers should have been jerked around by the politicians..left and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sanchez is bitter, that much is obvious by his tone.</p>
<p>I think he is blaming, but himself.</p>
<p>And I also think there is some truth in much of what he says, but then again he does not and did not offer realistic alternatives to the policy in place&#8230;Patreaus did and I think that is what makes him the most bitter.</p>
<p>But he is right in that the soldiers should have been jerked around by the politicians..left and right.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ

He points out well the impact of the media and in many cases their pre conceived message and notions of how they wished to frame the issue.

Abu G.&#160; , Haditha , now black water along with questionable stringers all contribute.

Plus there is a real need for operational security that precludes release of some information due to the impact it could have on planning for future operations and the desire to leave the bad guys blind and dumb.

You can&#039;t put live cameras in the war room to show all the tactical displays as the battlefield unfolds.&#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ</p>
<p>He points out well the impact of the media and in many cases their pre conceived message and notions of how they wished to frame the issue.</p>
<p>Abu G.&nbsp; , Haditha , now black water along with questionable stringers all contribute.</p>
<p>Plus there is a real need for operational security that precludes release of some information due to the impact it could have on planning for future operations and the desire to leave the bad guys blind and dumb.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t put live cameras in the war room to show all the tactical displays as the battlefield unfolds.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you AJ.

The left is buying into the spin above suggested prior to my post.

As Powerline proffers, it will be interesting to see the contortions the left will have to go through to offer up Sanchez as their latest demi god and square that with their posturing on Abu&#160; Gharib.

If you read their commentary it is cherry picked out of context stuff only emphasizing his criticism of some of the early tactics which is a fair point of debate in the marketplace of ideas.&#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you AJ.</p>
<p>The left is buying into the spin above suggested prior to my post.</p>
<p>As Powerline proffers, it will be interesting to see the contortions the left will have to go through to offer up Sanchez as their latest demi god and square that with their posturing on Abu&nbsp; Gharib.</p>
<p>If you read their commentary it is cherry picked out of context stuff only emphasizing his criticism of some of the early tactics which is a fair point of debate in the marketplace of ideas.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Rummy once said, &quot;we went to war with the military we had&quot;, he meant the Generals as well.  I think it is not helpful for Sanchez to be speaking out now. If he thought their were mistakes he should have used a platform that would help to correct those mistakes, like through the Joint Chiefs of Staff, war colleges etc. Using the very same media that he says sensationalizes the war for political advantage seems a bit odd for an ex-General. Certainly he has the protected right of free speech, but I&#039;m a firm believer that speech should accomplish something for better, in his case the speech was more blather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Rummy once said, &#8220;we went to war with the military we had&#8221;, he meant the Generals as well.  I think it is not helpful for Sanchez to be speaking out now. If he thought their were mistakes he should have used a platform that would help to correct those mistakes, like through the Joint Chiefs of Staff, war colleges etc. Using the very same media that he says sensationalizes the war for political advantage seems a bit odd for an ex-General. Certainly he has the protected right of free speech, but I&#8217;m a firm believer that speech should accomplish something for better, in his case the speech was more blather.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for admitting you leaped to conclusions on Sanchez based on media summizations, and not his words, AJ.  Admirable.

And while I understand it&#039;s hard to read his very widespread &quot;blame&quot;, may I tell you what I &quot;heard&quot; in his speech?

He is placing the lack of success upon us all... negligent, irresponsible western media, partisan sniping of citizens and Congress alike, inept military planning that wasn&#039;t corrected adequately as time marched on, plus the Congressional inability to fund and deliver what the troops need without bickering and long delays.

By your original leap to conclusion without reading his speech, he has proven his point.  The media&#039;s irresponsible reporting doesn&#039;t help a nation who has a ho-hum attitude about a distant war.  

But when citizens - who should know that the media has an agenda - doesn&#039;t take advantage of reading the direct links to his words and instead takes the media headlines and summaries as &quot;truth&quot;, we are also to blame.  

Now the left cut and paste the juicy parts that fit their agenda.  The right is on the quest to destroy his credibility and service.  Again, his point is being proven as correct.

For myself, I think most of his assessments are right on, and I take no personal &#039;tude about it all.  Mistakes are made in every war.  But they are most definitely easier to correct when everyone is on the same page - a quest for success.  And it is here that our problems lie.

I think we would be wise to consider his formula for success... which mandates all partisan sniping for political gain must stop.  This nation... elected elite and citizens... must come up with a plan for success that we can all back.

Whether that&#039;s possible in this environment filled with hate, dunno.  But our very survival may depend upon it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for admitting you leaped to conclusions on Sanchez based on media summizations, and not his words, AJ.  Admirable.</p>
<p>And while I understand it&#8217;s hard to read his very widespread &#8220;blame&#8221;, may I tell you what I &#8220;heard&#8221; in his speech?</p>
<p>He is placing the lack of success upon us all&#8230; negligent, irresponsible western media, partisan sniping of citizens and Congress alike, inept military planning that wasn&#8217;t corrected adequately as time marched on, plus the Congressional inability to fund and deliver what the troops need without bickering and long delays.</p>
<p>By your original leap to conclusion without reading his speech, he has proven his point.  The media&#8217;s irresponsible reporting doesn&#8217;t help a nation who has a ho-hum attitude about a distant war.  </p>
<p>But when citizens &#8211; who should know that the media has an agenda &#8211; doesn&#8217;t take advantage of reading the direct links to his words and instead takes the media headlines and summaries as &#8220;truth&#8221;, we are also to blame.  </p>
<p>Now the left cut and paste the juicy parts that fit their agenda.  The right is on the quest to destroy his credibility and service.  Again, his point is being proven as correct.</p>
<p>For myself, I think most of his assessments are right on, and I take no personal &#8216;tude about it all.  Mistakes are made in every war.  But they are most definitely easier to correct when everyone is on the same page &#8211; a quest for success.  And it is here that our problems lie.</p>
<p>I think we would be wise to consider his formula for success&#8230; which mandates all partisan sniping for political gain must stop.  This nation&#8230; elected elite and citizens&#8230; must come up with a plan for success that we can all back.</p>
<p>Whether that&#8217;s possible in this environment filled with hate, dunno.  But our very survival may depend upon it.</p>
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		<title>By: ScrappleFace</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrappleFace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sanchez Releases Top 10 Least Newsworthy Remarks...&lt;/strong&gt;

(2007-10-13) &#8212; Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who generated headlines this week by calling the Iraq war &#8220;a nightmare with no end in sight,&#8221; today released a list of the &#8220;least newsworthy remarks&#8221; from that same speech t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sanchez Releases Top 10 Least Newsworthy Remarks&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>(2007-10-13) &#8212; Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who generated headlines this week by calling the Iraq war &#8220;a nightmare with no end in sight,&#8221; today released a list of the &#8220;least newsworthy remarks&#8221; from that same speech t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sashal</title>
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		<dc:creator>sashal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™ve already started to catch a whiff of how they will try to dispute Sanchezâ€™s assessment. There will be two tacks:

1) Sanchez also criticized the media, which no one seems to be reporting, as if the incompetence of the media led to more than 3,800 dead Americans

2) Sanchez is bitter for being forced out because of Abu Ghraib</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ve already started to catch a whiff of how they will try to dispute Sanchezâ€™s assessment. There will be two tacks:</p>
<p>1) Sanchez also criticized the media, which no one seems to be reporting, as if the incompetence of the media led to more than 3,800 dead Americans</p>
<p>2) Sanchez is bitter for being forced out because of Abu Ghraib</p>
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