Nov 08 2007
America Will Turn To A Strong, Centrist Conservative As President
While the years long fight against Islamo Fascism is taking a toll on Americans, we all know we cannot afford to lose this battle. We all know, now that we have al-Qaeda on the ropes, the last thing we can do is let up and start trying to reason with them as equals. The murderous violence of al-Qaeda, shown over decades of atrocities, tells Americans that any let up will only be rewarded with more brutality and bloodshed. al-Qaeda will fight to the end, and if ever given breathing room will try and take the initiative.
Which is why I think we are seeing the predicted lead of Democrat Presidential asparents disappearing. It is a multi-faceted situation, but the fact Democrats fought for America’s defeat in Iraq and Republicans fought for American victory plays heavy in the presidential arena. It is one thing to cut your losses when faced with an impossible objective. It is another to wimp out just before the tide finally turns. Americans hate quitters.
So I am not surprised by the latest polls showing the Democrat lead contender, Hillary Clinton, losing ground to the GOP lead contender:
By 50% to 35%, the poll shows, Americans prefer that a Democrat gets elected to succeed Bush next November. In a direct matchup of leading candidates, however, that margin shrinks to 46% for Clinton and 45% for Giuliani.
The survey, conducted among an unusually large sample of 1,509 adults with an error margin of 2.5 percentage points, shows a remarkable divergence in assessments of Clinton’s personal qualities. While a 51% majority gives her high marks for being “knowledgeable and experienced enough to handle the presidency,†pluralities rate Clinton negatively on honesty, likeability, and sharing their positions on of the issues.
A word about polls which has been born out over decades of poll taking. The least conservative poll results come from surveys of “adults”. As polls sample “voters” and “likely voters” the poll results shift 3-8 points to the conservative side. The fact is most adults are just not that tuned into politics. The more people are the less likely they are to fall for the propaganda of the left and their news media puppets. So this is an actually stunning poll and incredibly good news for the GOP and Guiliani. If this poll were to come out next summer, I would feel very comfortable in predicting a GOP win.
I expect the polls to shift even more as the true impact of the changing tide in Iraq becomes more apparent and as the reduction of violence settles in to be the norm. People are naturally wary to believe things could be going well in Iraq. But the trend lines are clear. Their wariness will wear away to acceptance as the violence continues to drop and becomes more the rule, not the exception.
A strong centrist conservative?
Like Ron Paul, maybe?
Thompson: too old, too lazy, can only “play” strong on TV.
McCain: Far too crazy, and too far right to be centrist.
Giulianai: So clueless he failed to notice his best buddy Kerik was a crook.
Paul is the only thing approaching a true conservative in the Republicoid Party . . . and the neocons all make fun of him because he believes in the Constitution.;
Does he really interpret the Constitution correctly? HHHmmm….he may believe in it but it doesn’t mean that he’s interpreting it correctly.
Rudy, Romney, McCain are far more centrists than Paul.
You’re the one that’s interpreting it wrong. Common habit of yours.
Sooth,
you are so far left you can’t even see ‘centrist’.
Paul is the only thing approaching a true conservative in the Republicoid Party . . . and the neocons all make fun of him because he believes in the Constitution.;
Left by Soothsayer on November 8th, 2007
…..and with that comment, “Bootlicker”, ONCE AGAIN, …PROVES WHAT?
Yes, that he is:
An Anti-American, Pro-Jihadi, Leftist, Lying, Nutbag, Moonbat, Traitor, Daily-Cus-Omac!
As IF there was EVER, ANY doubt?
“Centrist Conservative” Continuing in the redefenition of conservatism.
Like Rain Forest instead of Jungle, Wet Lands instead of Swamp, Democracy instead of Republic, We just continue to redefine!
It’s just time for me to say goodbye.
Take Care.
Best of luck to Terrye.
Stevevvs is taking his small tent and going home. How far right of you! And people wonder why the GOP is losing support?
Surely Sooth is kidding. If not he is living proof that my claim that extremes meet is true.
And steve, if not for the centrists pulling that R lever there is no way conservatives could win a national election. None.
BTW, I heard that Ron Paul has been associated with both the Truthers and the white supremists. That explains soothie’s affection. Birds of a feather and all that.
Ron Paul fails the reality test on 911, Iraq and even Viet Nam.
Tancredo brings some strange views to the immigration debate, unlike Duncan Hunter.
McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Thompson appear to be decent, bright and level headed. Right now, they are splitting the conservative vote.
The following is from Dennis the Peasant.{Dennis is not a big fan of anyone but he is sometimes very astute}:
Beyond that, however, lurks an even more sinister issue: Hucksterism masquerading as Conservatism. To me, David Horowitz is just a variation on the theme of Elmer Gantry. I’ve never bought into his conversion… It was too studied. Too convenient. And way, way too commercial. It’s no accident that of all the Leftist journals Horowitz could have worked for in his youth, he ended up at Ramparts… The slickest, shallowest and most commercial of the entire lot. It is also no accident that Ramparts is remembered not for its politics, but for its whack-job conspiracy mongering.
The facts are straightforward: At the time of his “conversion”, David Horowitz was a D-List Lefty who’s influence was largely over within “The Movement”. Personally, I suspect this, more than any supposed ethical epiphany, drove Horowitz into the arms of the Conservative Movement back in the ’80s. So if I am right about this, and if you accept, irrespective of the change in his views, that Horowitz’s essential thought processes have remained static during his life, the employing of Locke – as well as Locke’s attitude and actions – become completely understandable. This is about purity of thought. It is telling that when Locke asks about immigration, the question is framed in terms of ideology, not policy.
Back in the late ’70s and early ’80s, before “Conservatism” became an option for career enhancement, those of us who considered ourselves Conservatives, or “Reagan Republicans” if you will, kept close to our bosoms the collected works of two authors: Milton Friedman and P.J. O’Rourke. They seemed, to many of us, to personify our Conservative Vision. That they held opinions that were often outside the norm of “Conservative” thought was no drawback. Friedman rejected government’s furtherance of corporate interests, as well as U.S. drug policies. Both ideas horrified Country Club Republicans everywhere. O’Rourke’s professed desire for the liberty to indulge in fast cars, powerful firearms, controlled substances and loose women was also a vision that also failed to reach every member of the fold. But what I do not remember is them being persecuted by The Right for failing the test of Ideological Purity. I remember them as part of a great debate…
No, persecution for thought deviation, that all came later, when the respect for ideas and debate that excited so many of us was replaced by the need to conform. It’s worth noting that that particular urge did not come from Ronald Reagan, at whose feet people like David Horowitz claim to worship. Ronald Reagan was a realistic, pragmatic politician who worked within a philosophical framework that defined what he believed in. He well understood the difference between political philosophy and political dogma, and Reagan’s success was in no small part due to his willingness to compromise when his enemies assumed he would be inflexible.
Terrye,
I don’t believe the litterati, Left and Right, ever empathize with middle America in much of anything. They talk to each other and about each other. Buckley, Noonan, Galbraith, Schlesinger and Russert are examples.
Interesting that another member of the writing class is the inspiration of the Libertarian Party- Ann Rand.
QUOTE Truthslayer: Giulianai: So clueless he failed to notice his best buddy Kerik was a crook.
First truthie, as you say….it would help if you could spell it first.
However, I happen to understand who/what you mean even though the spelling is wrong.
COUNTER: do you mean like Hillary knowing Hsu was a crook?
> that margin shrinks to 46% for Clinton and 45% for Giuliani.
This is no surprise. A poll done by USAToday(? WaPo?) back about the middle of 2006 put forth the three “obvious” Dem candidates and several obvious GoP candidates (Jeb Bush is the only one I recall, for reasons that will be obvious), and asked the question: “Which of these would you not vote for under any circumstances?”
Interestingly, all three of the Dem candidates (Hillary, Kerry, Gore) got between 40 and 45% of the people who WOULD NOT VOTE for them. Only Jeb, for reasons I think obvious, got a worse vote of no-confidence (at 62%, IIRC).
When you start out with those kind of negative numbers, I don’t think you can expect to win a presidential election. Those numbers cannot be affected by “campaign spin” that much because for all the positive spin you make, your opponent is going to make as much negative spin for you… and, frankly, Hillary almost certainly has lots and lots of skeletons in her closet to dig out constantly.