Dec 14 2007
Where’s The Line On Religion And Politics?
OK, I am a well known spiritual person, independent who leans way heavily conservative (I lean right, I am not cemented right). I actually have empathy and understanding with people of faith because I do have faith in a force for good in the universe. I have just decided none of the religions have found it yet (though they have most of it nailed down).
I also supported conservatives because I cannot abide the attack on those of faith in this country. The religion hypochondriacs who piss their pants the moment someone wears a cross in public, says Merry Christmas or claims their belief in Christ (or Allah) are the real bigots and intolerant ones in this nation. You need to allow people their beliefs and not be threatened when they differ with yours. As long as there is no federal requirement to go to mass or take vows to the church then we can live with diversity. What made me write this post is some of Andrew Sullivan’s usual dribble on people of faith in the GOP – he is consistently wrong (and spooked) by people of faith. His complaint is Bush announced his faith and believe in God. Oh pulleease – bring on the inquisition!
I champion those who are attacked or denigrated because they have faith. That means in the battle between Bush and Sullivan I side with Bush because he is not mandating or forcing Sullivan to follow his beliefs – he just explained them to everyone. Sullivan is the one denigrating the expression of faith by Bush. So where is the line between Religion and Politics that must not be crossed?
Simple, I also will not defend people who use religion as a weapon to denigrate others. It is simple really, the problem is people imposing their views on others through any means of coercion – including ridicule and denigration. Whether it is atheists bashing Christians or Christians bashing non-believers it is the violation of our Constitutional rights to have our own independent belief system (no matter how pure it is to any doctrine – secular or religion based) that crosses the line. Some on the right can cross the line.
Huckabee did when he recently commented snidely on mormon beliefs. Rich Lowry did it today in bashing Huckabee (too Baptist it seems). Both were denigrating someone else’s spiritual beliefs. Stating your beliefs is sharing your experiences with others. Trying to force them to live to your standards is unconstitutional. The only valid ‘force’ in this republic of ours is the consensus laws generated and updated by our constitutional democratic process. The only time we allow rights to be infringed is when we all agree the acts deserve the removal of rights – it is punishment for a crime. Differing beliefs is not a crime and cannot be restricted or oppressed from the public square and private businesses. No amount of ‘offense’ can restrict the right of expression. Which means people of faith can express that faith in schools and public squares without coercion or restriction. And it means no one of faith can impose their dogma and strictures on others.
This ain’t rocket science folks – it is called tolerance and respect of diverse views. As Romney said so well, enjoy and explore our symphony of beliefs and faiths that we are blessed with in this country. Don’t fear it – and don’t ever attack it.
i think the press is taking advantage of some of the earlier misgivings about Romney’s Mormomism and is widening it to encompass all the candidates religion.
Huckabee can minister to my heart, not my state. A broad brush I know, but I’ve never known a minister who was not a socialist. Huckabee is sounding more and more like a socialist. One example, he said in the last debate that the least of of us should have what the most of us have (paraphrasing). Should the State provide it or the church? I think he thinks that the State should, I think the church should. Read his foreign policy statement at Drudge.
I’m not interested in Huckabee ministering to my soul through the state.
An excellent view and discussion AJ. I agree with your sentiments completely. My question is: Do you have a link to Mitt’s speach/quote to which you refer in your last paragraph? I’m beginning to like Mitt more and more; however, Fred’s dismissal of ‘raising your hand’ (like a child) in the Iowa debate gave him a big ‘surge’ in my book. I am still undecided on my primary choice, but any of the top tier Republicans would be better than what the dems have in their line-up. Jan 29th (FL) is approaching
Being a christian, my beliefs are those as taught in the Bible. Religion was invented by man, never mentioned in the Bible.
However, it also states that some people are naturally within their heart are christian without belonging to a particular religion.
Personal beliefs should be just that – personal. Placating it all over the place is improper; and nowhere in the Bible is it written, that one has to defend his or her personal belief in public.
Also, personal faith belongs to our Creator, and politics – well it’s just that, no relationship to the Bible.
It says: “Give Ceasars what is Ceasars, and give to God what is God’s!”
All this ‘religious’ talk in the current campaign is almost ridiculous.