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	<title>Comments on: More Depressing Turnout Numbers For GOP In SC</title>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4975/comment-page-1#comment-270921</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2006 a real off year the dem primary had a 6% turnout an 11% rep primary turnout and general turnout of 44% at a little over 1,100,000 voters.

The state just counts how many voted in each primary without any party listing so the numbers are almost useless for comparison of party support but just general participation levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2006 a real off year the dem primary had a 6% turnout an 11% rep primary turnout and general turnout of 44% at a little over 1,100,000 voters.</p>
<p>The state just counts how many voted in each primary without any party listing so the numbers are almost useless for comparison of party support but just general participation levels.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4975/comment-page-1#comment-270919</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general over 75% of Huck voters were religious supporters which when voting either pick the conservative first since they don&#039;t normally have a religious choice but if they have one of those then tend to ignore the politics of the candidate but vote strictly on a religious issue.

Since most of the Rep primaries have been fairly balanced if Huck were not there all those votes would have likely moved to conservative candidates who were starved for air in this election cycle.

Fred is looked at as not active in the religion are and Hunter is a Baptist but I don&#039;t know how active he is but since he endorsed Huck I feel he must be fairly active and that partially shaped the endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general over 75% of Huck voters were religious supporters which when voting either pick the conservative first since they don&#8217;t normally have a religious choice but if they have one of those then tend to ignore the politics of the candidate but vote strictly on a religious issue.</p>
<p>Since most of the Rep primaries have been fairly balanced if Huck were not there all those votes would have likely moved to conservative candidates who were starved for air in this election cycle.</p>
<p>Fred is looked at as not active in the religion are and Hunter is a Baptist but I don&#8217;t know how active he is but since he endorsed Huck I feel he must be fairly active and that partially shaped the endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye

This entire cycle has been shaped by Huck pure and simple.  Look at the exit polls and the breakdowns.  Yes he is a populist ,but he has been pulling votes that would likely have gone to more traditional conservatives and libs have been going strong for McCain.

If you could somehow have taken Huck out of the picture the whole complexion of the races would have been a night and day difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye</p>
<p>This entire cycle has been shaped by Huck pure and simple.  Look at the exit polls and the breakdowns.  Yes he is a populist ,but he has been pulling votes that would likely have gone to more traditional conservatives and libs have been going strong for McCain.</p>
<p>If you could somehow have taken Huck out of the picture the whole complexion of the races would have been a night and day difference.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state has about 2,246,000 voters total all parties per scvotes.org

Rep primary turnout 19.8%
Dem primary                 23.7%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state has about 2,246,000 voters total all parties per scvotes.org</p>
<p>Rep primary turnout 19.8%<br />
Dem primary                 23.7%</p>
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		<title>By: sjreidhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers from SC&#039;s GOP turnout last Saturday have more to do with weather than anything else.  If you are not familiar with the way things operate in SC when there is an announced &quot;snow&quot; everyone rushes to the local store, tanks up on bread and milk (I&#039;m serious about this) and then they go home and don&#039;t come out until the local television stations announce &quot;all clear&quot;.  I heard from a friend last week that in the mountainous regions a number of people voted early.  There were a number of people who did not vote.  If I saw the precinct by precinct numbers  could tell you more.  Also, as is typical they combined precincts.  While people wouldn&#039;t mind going out to vote in the bad weather if the precinct was close - trust me, they 
would not do so at one the combined precincts some distance away. If the weather was as I was told, and it were a general election, I don&#039;t even know if I would have been able to get to my local precinct because of the roads. 

 I worked in SC primaries and elections from 1972 until I moved in 1998.  The turnout in 1980 was very low.  I know people won&#039;t believe it but there wasn&#039;t that much interest in Reagan then.

The SC Dem party is in bad shape, financially.  A few years ago it was nearly bankrupt. 

Another thing - I think too many people are truly over-estimating how actually conservative the GOP truly is.  I think we could be dealing with a massive disconnect between bloggers, talk show personalities, and the actual rank and file of the GOP.

SJR
The Pink Flamingo

Don&#039;t get all worried that SC is turning Blue.  It isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers from SC&#8217;s GOP turnout last Saturday have more to do with weather than anything else.  If you are not familiar with the way things operate in SC when there is an announced &#8220;snow&#8221; everyone rushes to the local store, tanks up on bread and milk (I&#8217;m serious about this) and then they go home and don&#8217;t come out until the local television stations announce &#8220;all clear&#8221;.  I heard from a friend last week that in the mountainous regions a number of people voted early.  There were a number of people who did not vote.  If I saw the precinct by precinct numbers  could tell you more.  Also, as is typical they combined precincts.  While people wouldn&#8217;t mind going out to vote in the bad weather if the precinct was close &#8211; trust me, they<br />
would not do so at one the combined precincts some distance away. If the weather was as I was told, and it were a general election, I don&#8217;t even know if I would have been able to get to my local precinct because of the roads. </p>
<p> I worked in SC primaries and elections from 1972 until I moved in 1998.  The turnout in 1980 was very low.  I know people won&#8217;t believe it but there wasn&#8217;t that much interest in Reagan then.</p>
<p>The SC Dem party is in bad shape, financially.  A few years ago it was nearly bankrupt. </p>
<p>Another thing &#8211; I think too many people are truly over-estimating how actually conservative the GOP truly is.  I think we could be dealing with a massive disconnect between bloggers, talk show personalities, and the actual rank and file of the GOP.</p>
<p>SJR<br />
The Pink Flamingo</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get all worried that SC is turning Blue.  It isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frogg:

I thought Fred Thompson was supposed to be the conservative in the race. Why didn&#039;t people vote for him if that is what they want? Why didn&#039;t they vote for Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frogg:</p>
<p>I thought Fred Thompson was supposed to be the conservative in the race. Why didn&#8217;t people vote for him if that is what they want? Why didn&#8217;t they vote for Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo?</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Conservative&quot; Duncan Hunter was on the ballot in SC.  Although  I don&#039;t mean to disrespect the man, what did he end up with?  822 votes?  Total???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conservative&#8221; Duncan Hunter was on the ballot in SC.  Although  I don&#8217;t mean to disrespect the man, what did he end up with?  822 votes?  Total???</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merlin:

The Republicans will face the same problems in Ohio where the state party has imploded. Kind of like the Democrats in LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merlin:</p>
<p>The Republicans will face the same problems in Ohio where the state party has imploded. Kind of like the Democrats in LA.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have another theory.   I am only basing it on people I know who are voting in the Dem primary.   It is not scientific.    There is an anti-Hillary faction in the Dem party that is showing up in high numbers to vote against her.    It all changes in the general election when there is a different set of candidates.

Moderate Republican?    Isn&#039;t that what George Bush was?    I don&#039;t see any far right conservatives in this race?   So, why the low turn out at the Republican primaries if they are all moderate candidates?    Maybe it&#039;s because there is no conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another theory.   I am only basing it on people I know who are voting in the Dem primary.   It is not scientific.    There is an anti-Hillary faction in the Dem party that is showing up in high numbers to vote against her.    It all changes in the general election when there is a different set of candidates.</p>
<p>Moderate Republican?    Isn&#8217;t that what George Bush was?    I don&#8217;t see any far right conservatives in this race?   So, why the low turn out at the Republican primaries if they are all moderate candidates?    Maybe it&#8217;s because there is no conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I have been reading of Virginia ,which you obviously have a much better handle on than I,  is that some of the actions of the Republican party officials at the state level have been to put it politely, kinda screwed up and just shooting themselves in more places than the foot.

Red State blog has been highly critical of them with many examples of why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have been reading of Virginia ,which you obviously have a much better handle on than I,  is that some of the actions of the Republican party officials at the state level have been to put it politely, kinda screwed up and just shooting themselves in more places than the foot.</p>
<p>Red State blog has been highly critical of them with many examples of why.</p>
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