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		<title>By: Klimt</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4980/comment-page-4#comment-271748</link>
		<dc:creator>Klimt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see McCain as stronger on war/defense -- unless he is going to put on a uniform and direct troops from the whitehouse  they are about equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see McCain as stronger on war/defense &#8212; unless he is going to put on a uniform and direct troops from the whitehouse  they are about equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SallyVee,

Yeah, my blood pressure goes up every time I hear Hillary&#039;s voice...grates on me like fingernails on a chalkboard.  That&#039;s why I turn off the t.v. or radio whenever she comes on.  I&#039;d rather not bring out that side in myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SallyVee,</p>
<p>Yeah, my blood pressure goes up every time I hear Hillary&#8217;s voice&#8230;grates on me like fingernails on a chalkboard.  That&#8217;s why I turn off the t.v. or radio whenever she comes on.  I&#8217;d rather not bring out that side in myself!</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4980/comment-page-4#comment-271730</link>
		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whippet, I know. Namecalling is a hard habit to break but I&#039;ve gotten so much better since I stopped listening to Rush. 

Sometimes I hear that word RINO and it triggers a PTSD event, but they seem to get shorter every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whippet, I know. Namecalling is a hard habit to break but I&#8217;ve gotten so much better since I stopped listening to Rush. </p>
<p>Sometimes I hear that word RINO and it triggers a PTSD event, but they seem to get shorter every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SallyVee,
 Some people just can&#039;t stop the name calling....

And while I may disagree with him, Rush has the right to speak out about any candidate he disagrees with just like you and I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SallyVee,<br />
 Some people just can&#8217;t stop the name calling&#8230;.</p>
<p>And while I may disagree with him, Rush has the right to speak out about any candidate he disagrees with just like you and I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think McCain is just pointing out the fact that Romney is {shall we say} flexible on the war. He has evolved into his present position. Fine, I am not arguing with that, however, considering some of the really outrageous things people on the right say about McCain every day, are they really in any position to argue about his truthfulness or use of scorn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think McCain is just pointing out the fact that Romney is {shall we say} flexible on the war. He has evolved into his present position. Fine, I am not arguing with that, however, considering some of the really outrageous things people on the right say about McCain every day, are they really in any position to argue about his truthfulness or use of scorn?</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin, just read your excellent post. Very well said, especially this:

&quot;They have been given an enormous honor due to a function of the marketplace. In my opinion, they are misusing it.&quot;

As for the latest rumble between Mac and Mitt. I think it was a rather ham handed attempt to refocus on nat&#039;l security and the war, which is an area where McCain completely dominates. It is true unfortunately that Mitt has made more than a few unbelievably cringe-inducing statements and given very weak analysis about the war... to the point of inducing laughter and head slapping a couple times. Go back and check, you&#039;ll see. However, I also think Mitt has &quot;evolved&quot; in the right direction on the issue, and was quite impressive in a couple recent debates. His instincts are no match for McCain&#039;s on national security, but I believe the office &amp; title would very quickly make the man, in the event Mitt becomes president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin, just read your excellent post. Very well said, especially this:</p>
<p>&#8220;They have been given an enormous honor due to a function of the marketplace. In my opinion, they are misusing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the latest rumble between Mac and Mitt. I think it was a rather ham handed attempt to refocus on nat&#8217;l security and the war, which is an area where McCain completely dominates. It is true unfortunately that Mitt has made more than a few unbelievably cringe-inducing statements and given very weak analysis about the war&#8230; to the point of inducing laughter and head slapping a couple times. Go back and check, you&#8217;ll see. However, I also think Mitt has &#8220;evolved&#8221; in the right direction on the issue, and was quite impressive in a couple recent debates. His instincts are no match for McCain&#8217;s on national security, but I believe the office &amp; title would very quickly make the man, in the event Mitt becomes president.</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catching up here on the interesting conversation. Whippet, you&#039;re kind of a passive aggressive bully but I gotta give you a couple points. One for sure is, I did give Rush and a few others way too much respect for way too long. And I admit to feeling a degree of scorn -- so sue me! I also did turn Rush off. Trouble is, if you engage in politics even part time, you bump into Rush at least once a day. It&#039;s sorta like pop culture... I don&#039;t want to know a thing about Brittney Spears but against my will I end up knowing she runs around without underwear flashing paparazzi when she&#039;s not busy being a devoted Mom. And do I have an opinion on that? Yes, she is disgusting, she is a terrible example, and I wish she would go away forever.

Oh, and about the money. Yes indeed, Rush&#039;s vast and much bragged on wealth gets my goat. Mainly because I&#039;ve contributed thousands to his pot of gold, only to get a poke in the eye at a critical moment in American history, when he should be using his influence much more wisely and constructively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catching up here on the interesting conversation. Whippet, you&#8217;re kind of a passive aggressive bully but I gotta give you a couple points. One for sure is, I did give Rush and a few others way too much respect for way too long. And I admit to feeling a degree of scorn &#8212; so sue me! I also did turn Rush off. Trouble is, if you engage in politics even part time, you bump into Rush at least once a day. It&#8217;s sorta like pop culture&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to know a thing about Brittney Spears but against my will I end up knowing she runs around without underwear flashing paparazzi when she&#8217;s not busy being a devoted Mom. And do I have an opinion on that? Yes, she is disgusting, she is a terrible example, and I wish she would go away forever.</p>
<p>Oh, and about the money. Yes indeed, Rush&#8217;s vast and much bragged on wealth gets my goat. Mainly because I&#8217;ve contributed thousands to his pot of gold, only to get a poke in the eye at a critical moment in American history, when he should be using his influence much more wisely and constructively.</p>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we don&#039;t have to do what Limbaugh, Hannity, or Coulter tell us to.  But it would be crazy to talk about them like they don&#039;t have enormous power to influence people in the Republican party.  They gained that influence through the power of the marketplace, but that doesn&#039;t mean that they can be irresponsible with that power and not get called on it.  Essentially, the talk radio guys and the bloggers are public intellectuals.  They may not usually be identified as such, but that&#039;s what they are.  In the past, public intellectuals took their positions very seriously, and refused to abuse them.  Guys like Buckley (before he became old and bitter), Podhoretz, and Bill Bennett were the Rush Limbaughs of their day.  They didn&#039;t strike out on a crusade to destroy the potential nominee of the GOP.  

These guys are power political figures, and while they gained that position due to their own talents and abilities, they are acting in an irresponsible manner.  If anyone has the power to destroy the GOP, it is these self-appointed movement leaders.  They have been given an enormous honor due to a function of the marketplace.  In my opinion, they are misusing it.  

Oh, and as a McCain supporter (I&#039;ve actually already voted for him in Missouri early voting), and as a person who sees McCain as a (flawed) conservative, I have to say I very often get extremely aggravated at some of his behavior.  Any of us who agreed with the President (and McCain) on immigration issues have demonstrated tolerance at divergent views within the GOP, and any of us who supported Rudy (as I did before his campaign tanked) knew how to deal with someone who disagreed with us personally on some important issues, but McCain seems to really dislike a lot of people on the right.  Not just disagree with them, but dislike them.  As Rich Lowry said at National Review earlier today, &quot;McCain has always given the impression of reserving his true scorn for his enemies within his own party. I have a hard time imagining McCain making this kind of dishonest accusation [against Romeny for advocating a withdrawl timetable]against a Democratâ€”it would be uncivil and dishonorable. But making it against a fellow Republican running to his right? No problem.&quot;  McCaing better damn well address this issue, before even his supporters (like me, after all I did vote for him) start to really regret that choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we don&#8217;t have to do what Limbaugh, Hannity, or Coulter tell us to.  But it would be crazy to talk about them like they don&#8217;t have enormous power to influence people in the Republican party.  They gained that influence through the power of the marketplace, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they can be irresponsible with that power and not get called on it.  Essentially, the talk radio guys and the bloggers are public intellectuals.  They may not usually be identified as such, but that&#8217;s what they are.  In the past, public intellectuals took their positions very seriously, and refused to abuse them.  Guys like Buckley (before he became old and bitter), Podhoretz, and Bill Bennett were the Rush Limbaughs of their day.  They didn&#8217;t strike out on a crusade to destroy the potential nominee of the GOP.  </p>
<p>These guys are power political figures, and while they gained that position due to their own talents and abilities, they are acting in an irresponsible manner.  If anyone has the power to destroy the GOP, it is these self-appointed movement leaders.  They have been given an enormous honor due to a function of the marketplace.  In my opinion, they are misusing it.  </p>
<p>Oh, and as a McCain supporter (I&#8217;ve actually already voted for him in Missouri early voting), and as a person who sees McCain as a (flawed) conservative, I have to say I very often get extremely aggravated at some of his behavior.  Any of us who agreed with the President (and McCain) on immigration issues have demonstrated tolerance at divergent views within the GOP, and any of us who supported Rudy (as I did before his campaign tanked) knew how to deal with someone who disagreed with us personally on some important issues, but McCain seems to really dislike a lot of people on the right.  Not just disagree with them, but dislike them.  As Rich Lowry said at National Review earlier today, &#8220;McCain has always given the impression of reserving his true scorn for his enemies within his own party. I have a hard time imagining McCain making this kind of dishonest accusation [against Romeny for advocating a withdrawl timetable]against a Democratâ€”it would be uncivil and dishonorable. But making it against a fellow Republican running to his right? No problem.&#8221;  McCaing better damn well address this issue, before even his supporters (like me, after all I did vote for him) start to really regret that choice.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indy, no problem.  I could have deleted them, but people sometimes add things each time they try to get through and it is easy to put them all up.  Just a bunch of 1&#039;s and 0&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indy, no problem.  I could have deleted them, but people sometimes add things each time they try to get through and it is easy to put them all up.  Just a bunch of 1&#8242;s and 0&#8242;s!</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indy, no problem.  I could have deleted them, but people sometimes add things each time they try to get through and it is easy to put them all up.  Just a bunch of 1&#039;s and 0&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indy, no problem.  I could have deleted them, but people sometimes add things each time they try to get through and it is easy to put them all up.  Just a bunch of 1&#8242;s and 0&#8242;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone care about what other people say, or how they say it...if it&#039;s something you disagree with and don&#039;t want to have anything to do with in the first place??  I could care less what Rush thinks of people like me,  or the candidates we vote for (or not). 

It&#039;s real easy....change the channel.  I just turn it off or change the channel. I don&#039;t know...it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone care about what other people say, or how they say it&#8230;if it&#8217;s something you disagree with and don&#8217;t want to have anything to do with in the first place??  I could care less what Rush thinks of people like me,  or the candidates we vote for (or not). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s real easy&#8230;.change the channel.  I just turn it off or change the channel. I don&#8217;t know&#8230;it works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,
I never assumed that you were fed up with  Rush, Malkin,etc.  because you were jealous of their money.  I understand why you are fed up with them, so am I.  Bringing Rush&#039;s millions into it gave the appearance of additional issues with them, that&#039;s all.

And I have never felt bullied by them or deemed to be less worthy if I don&#039;t think like them.   I don&#039;t give them that much power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,<br />
I never assumed that you were fed up with  Rush, Malkin,etc.  because you were jealous of their money.  I understand why you are fed up with them, so am I.  Bringing Rush&#8217;s millions into it gave the appearance of additional issues with them, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>And I have never felt bullied by them or deemed to be less worthy if I don&#8217;t think like them.   I don&#8217;t give them that much power.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no moral highground. I just don&#039;t appreciate it when people assume that the reason I have gotten fed up with people like Coulter and Rush and Malkin is that I am jealous of their money. It is not. I am tired of them trying to bully the rest of the party into supporting their positions for fear we will be deemed less than worthy if we stray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no moral highground. I just don&#8217;t appreciate it when people assume that the reason I have gotten fed up with people like Coulter and Rush and Malkin is that I am jealous of their money. It is not. I am tired of them trying to bully the rest of the party into supporting their positions for fear we will be deemed less than worthy if we stray.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,
Then I guess you get to claim the moral highground?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,<br />
Then I guess you get to claim the moral highground?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whippet:

I am saying that campaign finance is a winner to the majority of Americans who are concerned about the impact of money on politics. I don&#039;t think the bill did a good job of keeping money out of politics, I am not even sure it is possible. I am only saying that most Americans do not think it is a free speech issue, so much as a money issue. 

As for walking a day in Rush&#039;s shoes spare me. I make a living taking care of sick and dying people. I have to see and smell and touch things that would probably make Rush lose his lunch and I do it for a lot less money that Rush makes. Fine, at least I know when it is all said and done I served a useful function. I am not so sure the same can be said for Rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whippet:</p>
<p>I am saying that campaign finance is a winner to the majority of Americans who are concerned about the impact of money on politics. I don&#8217;t think the bill did a good job of keeping money out of politics, I am not even sure it is possible. I am only saying that most Americans do not think it is a free speech issue, so much as a money issue. </p>
<p>As for walking a day in Rush&#8217;s shoes spare me. I make a living taking care of sick and dying people. I have to see and smell and touch things that would probably make Rush lose his lunch and I do it for a lot less money that Rush makes. Fine, at least I know when it is all said and done I served a useful function. I am not so sure the same can be said for Rush.</p>
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