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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5089/comment-page-2#comment-284119</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jules,

Jealous Europeans have been predicting the demise of America for decades.....

Watch as our efforts in the ME displace the last cesspool left behind by European imperialism.  Unlike Europe, we don&#039;t occupy those countries we vanquish or save from blood thirsty dictators, we help them on their feet and leave.

BTW, America never produced a Stalin or a Hitler or a Mussolini or a Caligula or a Vlad the Impaler or a Henry the VIII or a host of other despots who saw their fellow humans as tools for them to use for their own purposes.  We produced Washingtons, Lincolns, FDRs, Reagans and Bushes.  Which is why your EU governments are modeled on us and not your own historic disasters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules,</p>
<p>Jealous Europeans have been predicting the demise of America for decades&#8230;..</p>
<p>Watch as our efforts in the ME displace the last cesspool left behind by European imperialism.  Unlike Europe, we don&#8217;t occupy those countries we vanquish or save from blood thirsty dictators, we help them on their feet and leave.</p>
<p>BTW, America never produced a Stalin or a Hitler or a Mussolini or a Caligula or a Vlad the Impaler or a Henry the VIII or a host of other despots who saw their fellow humans as tools for them to use for their own purposes.  We produced Washingtons, Lincolns, FDRs, Reagans and Bushes.  Which is why your EU governments are modeled on us and not your own historic disasters.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker9876</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5089/comment-page-2#comment-283866</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker9876</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sweetness-light.com/archive/poll-bush-now-twice-as-popular-as-congress&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poll: Bush Now Twice As Popular As Congress&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://sweetness-light.com/archive/poll-bush-now-twice-as-popular-as-congress" rel="nofollow">Poll: Bush Now Twice As Popular As Congress</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Macker</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5089/comment-page-2#comment-283790</link>
		<dc:creator>The Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jules,
Get back to us when Europe starts carrying its own weight. Not only do we protect you from international bullies, we cleaned up your yard in old Yugoslavia.We subsidize your &quot;free&quot; health care by paying our fair share for drug research.

Europe is living off the glories of the past and charging the tourists, just like Disneyland. Why should we care what the Euro freeloaders think?

And talk about &quot;decline?&quot; They don&#039;t call it &quot;Eurabia&quot; for nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules,<br />
Get back to us when Europe starts carrying its own weight. Not only do we protect you from international bullies, we cleaned up your yard in old Yugoslavia.We subsidize your &#8220;free&#8221; health care by paying our fair share for drug research.</p>
<p>Europe is living off the glories of the past and charging the tourists, just like Disneyland. Why should we care what the Euro freeloaders think?</p>
<p>And talk about &#8220;decline?&#8221; They don&#8217;t call it &#8220;Eurabia&#8221; for nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: Klimt</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5089/comment-page-2#comment-283787</link>
		<dc:creator>Klimt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has challenges ahead against Obama. I agree. He is going to lose every single debate. Jules is right that his understanding of economics is pathetic ...  his speeches are lackluster; he is uncomfortable in the limelight; people are going to question his age and health. The good thing is he wins the conservative vote by default and will take that to his advantage by turning his back to them by embracing moderate and some liberal positions as well as giving them cabinet positions. Turning his back to conservatives is a judicious move. He will win over independents and some moderate democrats.

I give Obama has the edge in winning the Presidency but he has some challenges ahead too. His rhetoric is getting old. People are going to start questioning where he stands, what he will do, etc. His utter inexperience people will question. I expect many silly statements by him that McCain will take advantage of (e.g. invading Pakistan). He is very liberal; one of the most liberal senators. America is not that liberal yet. As they say, no one really knows who Obama is so people just project into him what they hope him to be. The Obama bubble could burst if people realize how overrated he is and what he really is -- far more liberal than America. 

As of right now I give Obama the edge. But that could change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has challenges ahead against Obama. I agree. He is going to lose every single debate. Jules is right that his understanding of economics is pathetic &#8230;  his speeches are lackluster; he is uncomfortable in the limelight; people are going to question his age and health. The good thing is he wins the conservative vote by default and will take that to his advantage by turning his back to them by embracing moderate and some liberal positions as well as giving them cabinet positions. Turning his back to conservatives is a judicious move. He will win over independents and some moderate democrats.</p>
<p>I give Obama has the edge in winning the Presidency but he has some challenges ahead too. His rhetoric is getting old. People are going to start questioning where he stands, what he will do, etc. His utter inexperience people will question. I expect many silly statements by him that McCain will take advantage of (e.g. invading Pakistan). He is very liberal; one of the most liberal senators. America is not that liberal yet. As they say, no one really knows who Obama is so people just project into him what they hope him to be. The Obama bubble could burst if people realize how overrated he is and what he really is &#8212; far more liberal than America. </p>
<p>As of right now I give Obama the edge. But that could change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Roy</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5089/comment-page-2#comment-283783</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine taking the word of Bob Geldof! Spend some time in England where Geldof and Bono are better known -  and to the know them is to loathe them.

Bush&#039;s big government at home and abroad agenda (imperialism) has virtually bankrupted the US. Just go to Europe or Canada and see how far your greenback peso goes these days. LMAO!  The panicky rate cuts, the sub-prime mess, and declining manufacturing base may be just the beginning. America is less respected than at any time in its history. The sight of America paying militias not to attack US troops to give the appearance of success in occupied Iraq tells the world you are a declining power. Your fall will temporarily hurt Europe, especially the main exporting countries like Germany, but for Europe it is better in the long term to see America&#039;s decline happen sooner.

McCain is an old time warmonger who publicly admits to not knowing much about economics. Rather than cut losses abroad he will accelerate your decline by trying to maintain the American empire at all costs. Obama&#039;s base will be inward looking African Americans and Oprah watching soccer moms who couldn&#039;t find Iraq on a map to save their lives. So he might not be as wedded to maintenance of American world domination as the other Democrat.  

So from a non-USA point of view it is better to suffer McCain/neocon aggression in the short term knowing that it brings forward the day when Europe assumes its natural place at the centre of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine taking the word of Bob Geldof! Spend some time in England where Geldof and Bono are better known &#8211;  and to the know them is to loathe them.</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s big government at home and abroad agenda (imperialism) has virtually bankrupted the US. Just go to Europe or Canada and see how far your greenback peso goes these days. LMAO!  The panicky rate cuts, the sub-prime mess, and declining manufacturing base may be just the beginning. America is less respected than at any time in its history. The sight of America paying militias not to attack US troops to give the appearance of success in occupied Iraq tells the world you are a declining power. Your fall will temporarily hurt Europe, especially the main exporting countries like Germany, but for Europe it is better in the long term to see America&#8217;s decline happen sooner.</p>
<p>McCain is an old time warmonger who publicly admits to not knowing much about economics. Rather than cut losses abroad he will accelerate your decline by trying to maintain the American empire at all costs. Obama&#8217;s base will be inward looking African Americans and Oprah watching soccer moms who couldn&#8217;t find Iraq on a map to save their lives. So he might not be as wedded to maintenance of American world domination as the other Democrat.  </p>
<p>So from a non-USA point of view it is better to suffer McCain/neocon aggression in the short term knowing that it brings forward the day when Europe assumes its natural place at the centre of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for betting, it is way too far off for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for betting, it is way too far off for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No soothie that is not true. You are looking at primaries and seeing all those men voting against Hillary. That is the real issue here, Hillary is not McCain. She was not a good candidate to begin with and she had high negatives.

McCain is one of the most popular politicians in America. His favorability ratings are as high or higher than Obama and he is not some empty suit full of empty platitudes.

In overall polls, when it comes to people crossing party lines McCain does better at pulling Dems than Obama does at pulling Republicans. There are conservative Democrats out there {many around here} who will not vote for Hillary or Obama if McCain is the Republican candidate.

And remember, Obama is all about unity and love and peace and warm gooey feelings. Be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No soothie that is not true. You are looking at primaries and seeing all those men voting against Hillary. That is the real issue here, Hillary is not McCain. She was not a good candidate to begin with and she had high negatives.</p>
<p>McCain is one of the most popular politicians in America. His favorability ratings are as high or higher than Obama and he is not some empty suit full of empty platitudes.</p>
<p>In overall polls, when it comes to people crossing party lines McCain does better at pulling Dems than Obama does at pulling Republicans. There are conservative Democrats out there {many around here} who will not vote for Hillary or Obama if McCain is the Republican candidate.</p>
<p>And remember, Obama is all about unity and love and peace and warm gooey feelings. Be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Soothsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain does a better job of attracting Democrats than Obama {rhymes with Osama} does of attracting Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The numbers from the polling places make it clear that Obama is winning over far more independents and moderate Republicans than McCain is winning conservative Democrats.

But like I said - if anybody wants to bet ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>McCain does a better job of attracting Democrats than Obama {rhymes with Osama} does of attracting Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>The numbers from the polling places make it clear that Obama is winning over far more independents and moderate Republicans than McCain is winning conservative Democrats.</p>
<p>But like I said &#8211; if anybody wants to bet &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real secret to the appeal of people like Obama is also the press and the left which is always looking for a cult leader to mindlessly follow. For instance, Bush is in Africa and even Geldof made mention of the fact that Bush has done more to help the people of that continent than any president ever has...and yet Geldof noted, he gets no credit.

Well that is simple, the press is like soothie here. They are hateful little liberals who do not really care about the causes they yammer on about. It is all about the SHOW, the EVENT, the SPECTACLE, the SPEECH. 

The fact that Bush might have saved hundreds of thousands of lives is just so {you know} boring. Not worth mentioning. It is better to make a speech about all the lives you will save than to actually do all the boring bothersome stuff it takes to save them.
 
Change, we want change, we are the change, the change is us!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real secret to the appeal of people like Obama is also the press and the left which is always looking for a cult leader to mindlessly follow. For instance, Bush is in Africa and even Geldof made mention of the fact that Bush has done more to help the people of that continent than any president ever has&#8230;and yet Geldof noted, he gets no credit.</p>
<p>Well that is simple, the press is like soothie here. They are hateful little liberals who do not really care about the causes they yammer on about. It is all about the SHOW, the EVENT, the SPECTACLE, the SPEECH. </p>
<p>The fact that Bush might have saved hundreds of thousands of lives is just so {you know} boring. Not worth mentioning. It is better to make a speech about all the lives you will save than to actually do all the boring bothersome stuff it takes to save them.</p>
<p>Change, we want change, we are the change, the change is us!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I just think Obama is feeding people a line of crap so that they will vote for him. Oldest trick in the book. Pacifism, populism, and empty promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I just think Obama is feeding people a line of crap so that they will vote for him. Oldest trick in the book. Pacifism, populism, and empty promises.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sooth:

One thing you are overlooking: McCain does a better job of attracting Democrats than Obama {rhymes with Osama} does of attracting Republicans.

That stuff about a sagging ass is so tacky and so you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sooth:</p>
<p>One thing you are overlooking: McCain does a better job of attracting Democrats than Obama {rhymes with Osama} does of attracting Republicans.</p>
<p>That stuff about a sagging ass is so tacky and so you.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama also said he wants to let the IRS do people taxes for them. We just sign on the dotted line and send in the check. 

He also plans to make the world a happy place of rainbows and unicorns and dancing butterflies and singing flowers and we can do it, yes we can. You are the hope, the hope is you. 

Will Michelle be proud of her country if people don&#039;t vote for her husband?

Oh yes, and peace now!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama also said he wants to let the IRS do people taxes for them. We just sign on the dotted line and send in the check. </p>
<p>He also plans to make the world a happy place of rainbows and unicorns and dancing butterflies and singing flowers and we can do it, yes we can. You are the hope, the hope is you. </p>
<p>Will Michelle be proud of her country if people don&#8217;t vote for her husband?</p>
<p>Oh yes, and peace now!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soothsayer:

November is a long way off and remember this if Obama wins he will be expected to live up to his long winded speeches. I wonder how long it will take for the honeymoon to be over? Not long I think. The man is weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soothsayer:</p>
<p>November is a long way off and remember this if Obama wins he will be expected to live up to his long winded speeches. I wonder how long it will take for the honeymoon to be over? Not long I think. The man is weird.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soothy don&#039;t get over confident......many republicans are voting for Obama because it is one way to defeat the Clintons.  Watch the blow out in Texas. It is so fun to watch the Clintons go down in flames!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soothy don&#8217;t get over confident&#8230;&#8230;many republicans are voting for Obama because it is one way to defeat the Clintons.  Watch the blow out in Texas. It is so fun to watch the Clintons go down in flames!</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soothy don&#039;t get over confident......many republicans are voting for Obama because it is one way to defeat the Clintons.  Watch the blow out in Texas. It is so fun to watch the Clintons go down in flames!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soothy don&#8217;t get over confident&#8230;&#8230;many republicans are voting for Obama because it is one way to defeat the Clintons.  Watch the blow out in Texas. It is so fun to watch the Clintons go down in flames!</p>
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