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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Are We Better Off Than 2002?</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-378446</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Are We Better Off Than 2002?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as we prepared to challenge Saddam and his ties to al-Qaeda (they existed through Ayman Zawahiri before and after 9-11), we were a nation bracing for the next strike from al-Qaeda. Osama Bin Laden and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as we prepared to challenge Saddam and his ties to al-Qaeda (they existed through Ayman Zawahiri before and after 9-11), we were a nation bracing for the next strike from al-Qaeda. Osama Bin Laden and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Underground Railroad For Terrorists To Enter Europe?</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-360376</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Underground Railroad For Terrorists To Enter Europe?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One thing to remember about Saddam Hussein&#8217;s support network for terrorists were all the weapons caches he had in his embassies across Europe. When you connect these weapons caches with illegal immigrants from the hotbeds of world terrorism [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One thing to remember about Saddam Hussein&#8217;s support network for terrorists were all the weapons caches he had in his embassies across Europe. When you connect these weapons caches with illegal immigrants from the hotbeds of world terrorism [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gwood</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-296180</link>
		<dc:creator>gwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!
It has never been important, for me, to justify the Iraq invasion by proving either 1-that there was a prior relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida, or 2-that there was a potential tie between Iraq and al-Qaida.
All that is necessary is to conclude that Saddam&#039;s hatred for America,and his vast resources, could cause him to attempt to clandestinely support a group of jihadis that planned to attack us.Surely the lesson of 9-11 was that ANYONE with the motive and the resources could do us great harm, without missiles, without nuclear capability, and without being implicated, because al-Qaida was only one of many entities willing to take &quot;credit&quot;. 

The surrendercrat narrative has it that Saddam not only did not attack us, but that he wouldn&#039;t attack us. The latter assumption is tenuous at best, but all we have to prove is that he COULD have attacked us. Motive and capability are there in spades. The sacking of Saddam also has crucial value on the psychological battlefield, in that he was perceived to be the region&#039;s &quot;strong horse&quot;, having been seen by the Arab street as having won the Gulf War, simply by maintaining his power after facing the Great Satan&#039;s war machine. He simply had to be taken out. 

Though we have attempted (mistakenly, in my view) to frame our post 9-11 actions as defensive and altruistic in nature, the Arab world has (fortunately) seen every one of them as punitive and retaliatory; this is one of two reasons we have not been attacked on our soil since 9-11.  The other is our willingness to stand and shed blood in Iraq, which restored the dearth of respect that caused the attack on our buildings to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!<br />
It has never been important, for me, to justify the Iraq invasion by proving either 1-that there was a prior relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida, or 2-that there was a potential tie between Iraq and al-Qaida.<br />
All that is necessary is to conclude that Saddam&#8217;s hatred for America,and his vast resources, could cause him to attempt to clandestinely support a group of jihadis that planned to attack us.Surely the lesson of 9-11 was that ANYONE with the motive and the resources could do us great harm, without missiles, without nuclear capability, and without being implicated, because al-Qaida was only one of many entities willing to take &#8220;credit&#8221;. </p>
<p>The surrendercrat narrative has it that Saddam not only did not attack us, but that he wouldn&#8217;t attack us. The latter assumption is tenuous at best, but all we have to prove is that he COULD have attacked us. Motive and capability are there in spades. The sacking of Saddam also has crucial value on the psychological battlefield, in that he was perceived to be the region&#8217;s &#8220;strong horse&#8221;, having been seen by the Arab street as having won the Gulf War, simply by maintaining his power after facing the Great Satan&#8217;s war machine. He simply had to be taken out. </p>
<p>Though we have attempted (mistakenly, in my view) to frame our post 9-11 actions as defensive and altruistic in nature, the Arab world has (fortunately) seen every one of them as punitive and retaliatory; this is one of two reasons we have not been attacked on our soil since 9-11.  The other is our willingness to stand and shed blood in Iraq, which restored the dearth of respect that caused the attack on our buildings to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merlin,
Good point.  I know that there were more than 60, 000 or 600,000 thousand that the media said is &quot;comprehensive.&quot; (As if they had been following this story and knew how many documents from Saddam&#039;s regime were recovered)

Weren&#039;t there millions of documents recovered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merlin,<br />
Good point.  I know that there were more than 60, 000 or 600,000 thousand that the media said is &#8220;comprehensive.&#8221; (As if they had been following this story and knew how many documents from Saddam&#8217;s regime were recovered)</p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t there millions of documents recovered?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark78</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-295925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ,
Great post.  I&#039;ve been screaming this story to the rooftops for years now over at www.regimeofterror.com.  It&#039;s nice to see this stuff in an official report.  Now all we need is the media to uncover it&#039;s ear and eyes and we might get somewhere.

Keep up the great posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,<br />
Great post.  I&#8217;ve been screaming this story to the rooftops for years now over at <a href="http://www.regimeofterror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.regimeofterror.com</a>.  It&#8217;s nice to see this stuff in an official report.  Now all we need is the media to uncover it&#8217;s ear and eyes and we might get somewhere.</p>
<p>Keep up the great posts.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-295893</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Harmony archives are only a small part of all the documents we have on this subject.

There are still multiple warehouses of documents in Kuwait yet to be exploited for intel and also about 2 years ago one of the documentaries on Gitmo had the base commander noting that they also had a large warehouse of captured documents that came with their detainees that have yet to be looked at.

Now if they have not translated and transcribed documents from those who were closest to OBL, it is likely that one could conclude the picture we have now is less than complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Harmony archives are only a small part of all the documents we have on this subject.</p>
<p>There are still multiple warehouses of documents in Kuwait yet to be exploited for intel and also about 2 years ago one of the documentaries on Gitmo had the base commander noting that they also had a large warehouse of captured documents that came with their detainees that have yet to be looked at.</p>
<p>Now if they have not translated and transcribed documents from those who were closest to OBL, it is likely that one could conclude the picture we have now is less than complete.</p>
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		<title>By: Karon von Gerhke</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5188/comment-page-1#comment-295740</link>
		<dc:creator>Karon von Gerhke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, rather than  beg the question of &quot;what was their definition of a smoking gun.&quot; is to query whom were their sources on a smoking gun, which is what I suspect may have influenced their conclusion on the absence of a smoking gun. 

The conclusions you drew based on the excepts are indeed grounded in reason. A sound mind would be hard put to come to any other conclusion. But as so oft happens in the course of collection of intelligence, the source of the intelligence may have been flawed. 

I personally cannot image a report issued the Department of Defense refuting the administration&#039;s claim of the existence of a smoking gun absent irrefutable evidence that the intelligence in the original assessment was flawed.  Honor, over and above political loyalties, is their creed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, rather than  beg the question of &#8220;what was their definition of a smoking gun.&#8221; is to query whom were their sources on a smoking gun, which is what I suspect may have influenced their conclusion on the absence of a smoking gun. </p>
<p>The conclusions you drew based on the excepts are indeed grounded in reason. A sound mind would be hard put to come to any other conclusion. But as so oft happens in the course of collection of intelligence, the source of the intelligence may have been flawed. </p>
<p>I personally cannot image a report issued the Department of Defense refuting the administration&#8217;s claim of the existence of a smoking gun absent irrefutable evidence that the intelligence in the original assessment was flawed.  Honor, over and above political loyalties, is their creed.</p>
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		<title>By: Karon von Gerhke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karon von Gerhke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The authorâ€™s, in a ridiculous amount of caution, said there was no smoking gun. That begs the question - what was their definition of a smoking gun?&quot;

Perhaps, rather the beg the question of &quot;what was their definition of a smoking gun.&quot; is to query whom were their sources on a smoking gun, which is what I suspect may have influenced their conclusion on the absence of a smoking gun. 

The conclusions you drew based on the excepts are indeed grounded in reason. A sound mind would be hard put to come to any other conclusion. But as so oft happens in the course of collection of intelligence, the source of the intelligence may have been flawed. 

I personally cannot image a report issued the Department of Defense refuting the administration&#039;s claim of the existence of a smoking gun absent irrefutable evidence that the intelligence in the original assessment was flawed.  Honor, over and above political loyalties, is their creed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The authorâ€™s, in a ridiculous amount of caution, said there was no smoking gun. That begs the question &#8211; what was their definition of a smoking gun?&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps, rather the beg the question of &#8220;what was their definition of a smoking gun.&#8221; is to query whom were their sources on a smoking gun, which is what I suspect may have influenced their conclusion on the absence of a smoking gun. </p>
<p>The conclusions you drew based on the excepts are indeed grounded in reason. A sound mind would be hard put to come to any other conclusion. But as so oft happens in the course of collection of intelligence, the source of the intelligence may have been flawed. </p>
<p>I personally cannot image a report issued the Department of Defense refuting the administration&#8217;s claim of the existence of a smoking gun absent irrefutable evidence that the intelligence in the original assessment was flawed.  Honor, over and above political loyalties, is their creed.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post AJ, did you see this? Of course we need Gitmo...do we want these guys in the US?

The Pentagon said on Friday it has taken custody from the CIA of an Afghan national who helped arrange Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden&#039;s escape from Tora Bora in 2001, a spokesman said Friday.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman would not say when or where Muhammad Rahim was captured or how long he was held by the CIA, but said he was transferred to US military custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba earlier this week.

&quot;He is one of UBL&#039;s (Osama bin Laden&#039;s) most trusted facilitators and procurement specialists. He helped prepare Tora Bora as a hideout for Osama bin Laden. He assisted Al-Qaeda&#039;s exodus from the area in late 2001,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post AJ, did you see this? Of course we need Gitmo&#8230;do we want these guys in the US?</p>
<p>The Pentagon said on Friday it has taken custody from the CIA of an Afghan national who helped arrange Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden&#8217;s escape from Tora Bora in 2001, a spokesman said Friday.<br />
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman would not say when or where Muhammad Rahim was captured or how long he was held by the CIA, but said he was transferred to US military custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba earlier this week.</p>
<p>&#8220;He is one of UBL&#8217;s (Osama bin Laden&#8217;s) most trusted facilitators and procurement specialists. He helped prepare Tora Bora as a hideout for Osama bin Laden. He assisted Al-Qaeda&#8217;s exodus from the area in late 2001,&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think their idea of a smoking gun is a tape or video of Saddam and Osama in the same room at the same time planning 9/11 and then shaking on it. 

Really. That is what they would have to see. 

I think Saddam and Osama are/were both Alpha males. Neither of them would have let the other one run things and so they worked through other people. They used each other,  but each one retained a certain amount of autonomy over their respective operations.

That means that Osama might be willing to let some of Saddam&#039;s intel people train his people on the use of chemicals...but they would not let Saddam tell them exactly when and where to use them. 

We have people in prison on less evidence of complicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think their idea of a smoking gun is a tape or video of Saddam and Osama in the same room at the same time planning 9/11 and then shaking on it. </p>
<p>Really. That is what they would have to see. </p>
<p>I think Saddam and Osama are/were both Alpha males. Neither of them would have let the other one run things and so they worked through other people. They used each other,  but each one retained a certain amount of autonomy over their respective operations.</p>
<p>That means that Osama might be willing to let some of Saddam&#8217;s intel people train his people on the use of chemicals&#8230;but they would not let Saddam tell them exactly when and where to use them. </p>
<p>We have people in prison on less evidence of complicity.</p>
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		<title>By: DaleinAtlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleinAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done AJ; I wonder where the Nutbag &quot;Bootlicker&quot; is??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done AJ; I wonder where the Nutbag &#8220;Bootlicker&#8221; is??</p>
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