Cables, dispatches and memoranda for 3/24/2008……

And, by way of Think Progress, this note from the AFP:
At least 97 percent of the deaths occurred after US President George W. Bush announced the end of “major combat” in Iraq on May 1, 2003, as the military became caught between a ragi…

Unable to deny the success of the surge, and still bent on surrender, the left are dragging out the ol’ body count which is now at the 4,000 mark. However, while this gets labeled as a “grim milestone”, its important to keep things i…

4500 military deaths, including ast Terrye pointed out, “accidents”, etc., not just combat deaths, in six and a half years!

During that same time, we’ve continued to MURDER ~approximately 16,000 of your fellow Americans, EVERY SINGLE YEAR!

And that is down substantially by the way, from the Clinton years, when we had less population; the average annual murder rate during the Clinton years was ~approximately 21,000; though to give Clinton credit, the murder rate did tail off dramatically the last few years he was in office and the ’99 & 2000 rates were the lowest since ’69.

Anyway, here the annual murder rates since 2001:

16,037
16,229
16,528
16,148
16,740
17,034

I cannot find the 2007 final murder stats, but there appears to be a slight drop, not much; just for an average, let’s say 16,500

Including that number, plus only 1/3rd of the 2001 total (I want this since 9/11, and the beginning of our invasion of Afghanistan); and including NO estimate for the first quarter of 2008, which would be at least another 4000; I come up with a number of over

104,000 of our fellow Americans, MURDERED, while in the same timeframe, we’ve lost ~4500 while fighting TWO WARS overseas!

IF you start to include the totally unnecessary deaths of car accidents, which include Drunk Driving, you can pitch in another ~20,000 per year, plus! But that is another issue.

Regardless, where is the OUTRAGE from the Anti-American Left, about that fact that in the same timeframe that we’ve lost ~4500 of our brave troops fighting two wars, we’ve MURDERED TWENTY-SIX times that amount of our own?

Where is the OUTRAGE of the Left, I wonder!

And Newbusters had this story from way back in 2006, how the actual Murder rate in various US Cities was actually HIGHER than the level of violence, at it’s worst, in Iraq!

http://www.newsbusters.org/node/9932

Bottomline is this; if you are a young American male, especially a young American black male, upon whom US murder rates fall disproportionately; you are actually SAFER in Iraq or Afghanistan, fighting Al Qaeda or the Taliban, than you are walking the streets of America!

That’s a FACT, and it’s so sad on so many levels, especially for the Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi treason of the Left in this country!

Since the only gage that the left has for success in Iraq is how many have died in the cause, now approaching 4,000 or so, which in itself is phenomenally small considering how many troops we’ve had over there five years, let’s do a little …

A closer statistical look implies (Using the ICC stats, assuming a 6 month average of 552 wartime fatalities per month which seems to be the current level):

Iraq Civilian Casualties as a result of the war: 24.1/100,000
The pre-surge rate was: 74.7/100,000

The site you pointed to (this site seems fair):

United States murders and suicides: 16.3/100,000
United States murders only: 5.6/100,000

So, Iraq is not the United States. It is not England. It is not Japan. Iraqi’s are not as worried about single payer healthcare or whatever as we are. However, the situation has dramatically improved and that improvement is accelerating.

From ’ What is the real death toll in Iraq?’ (The Guardian)
Maximum Saddam-Era state sponsored mortality (1 million killings over 35 years) rate was: 105.45/100,000

Stats that seem acceptable to most reviewers imply 380,000 Saddam state sponsored killings over his 35 years – not including Iran/Iraq war: 41.1/100,000.

Thus, Saddam killed about 11,300 per year every year. And these were state murders – not illnesses, accidents, old age, etc. And, should we not include Saddam’s unjust wars? And, the ratio seemed to accelerate through the years!!!

Surge era killings by ‘militants’ and coalition troops will result in about 6,600 per year at the current ratio. And, this ratio has a solid chance to decline as al-Qaeda weakens. Thus, the norm in Iraq under Saddam was almost double that of the current ICC stats and the differential will likely widen.

Anyone want to claim that Saddam and his lovely children and sycophants would have worked hard on behalf of the Iraqi people to reduce the state sponsored murder rate?

Or, would that pathetic genocidal murderer simply assume he had a god given mandate to murder citizens since they voted for him at a 95+% rate?

Thanks for proving my point.

Tsk, tsk…

I hate to say this but you are talking apples and oranges. To compare the death rate of NY with Iraq requires you to include all natural deaths that occurred in Iraq, all the non-conflict violent deaths, and all the conflict deaths. My guess is that Iraq is a bit more violent than NY. But, I think it less violent than the Saddam era now.

However, your main point is taken.

Here is another way of looking at the media ghouls simply waiting for fatalities. Had the ratio of daily fatalities remained at the April 2007 through September 2007 they would be celebrating this event sometime around

Thanksgiving in 2007

Rather than

Easter 2008

Do you think that fact will be triumphed…