Apr 10 2008
Best Reason I’ve Seen For McCain As President And The GOP In Congress
One thing America is sick of is the use of the law to settle differences of opinion. And the cutthroat crap in DC has been debilitating to the functioning of our government and juvenile in its claims. And so when the wacky left remind us they have plans for payback for Clinton’s impeachment, they make the best case why not to vote dem this year:
War Crimes
09 Apr 2008 07:11 pm
A provocative headline, I know, perhaps needlessly so, but it remains one of those hidden secrets in Washington that a Democratic Justice Department is going to be very interested in figuring out whether there’s a case to be made that senior Bush Administration officials were guilty of war crimes.
If a democrat Justice Department is going to spend any time investigating the man who stood upon the rubble of the World Trade Center and promised the terrorists they would be hearing from all of us soon enough, and then did what he promised he would do with Congressional and public backing at the time he did it, then there is no better reason to make sure there is a GOP Justice Department in place come next January. And we might as well neuter any similar dumb ideas in Congress as well.
Breschau,
“Oh, and did Wilson ever report that Saddam was trying to purchase uranium? Because he says pretty clearly that he did not:”
Oh, really…
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005354
Norm,
Why wouldn’t you have missed that, you’ve missed everything else that puts to rest the Bush lied, outing covert agents, spy on U.S. Citizens and torture.
See your problem is that you don’t believe in our legal system and the rules that are in place. You don’t like Bush so you want to change the rules in the middle of the “game”… Over 7 years later and you libs still can’t get over that the American people elected George Bush…twice.
“lying to the country, lying to the UN, lying to the Red Cross, and torture”
Just how long do you clowns think you can milk this BS? This statement from you alone, Breschau, is more evidence to investigate you than there ever was to investigate Bush. Playground antics.
Right on 75, and I didn’t know we lived in the United Fascist states of Liberalism that “investigate” their enemies at will…just because they feel they should be investigated…to prove their innocence.
Wow.
We should investigate/charge Norm and Breschau with torture.
Their twisted logic is torturing the rest of us. LOL
first of all whippet i’m not a lib. most of you all are so far out on the extreme fringe that moderates look liberal. second…what you think has been put to rest hasn’t necessarily been put to rest…i think that’s the point. take outing a covert operative for instance. justice was obstructed and perjury was commited. what that means is that the outing was never fully investigated. as far as torture…it’s pretty clear we have. those who destroyed the tapes of it admitted as much. it’s a matter of finding someone who is actually interested in the rule of law. clearly you are not. as for illegal spying on citizens technicallities stopped the legal proceedings. an administration who is more interested in the rule of law than covering their arses may be interested in going further. we shall see. soooo…let’s review shall we? the legal system to date has been stymied by obstruction and perjury, technicalities, and in the case of torture conflict of interest. so yes i do believe in our legal system — and i believe in actually letting it work…not just gaming the system to get the answer your hyper-partisan view wants to get and then calling it a day.
ordi…you probably beilive in granting the telcoms full immunity for their role in spying on american citizens…nothing is more fascist.
I can do this all day, Whippet.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unmovic/2003/0506missing.htm
From the link:
“[A] former U.S. ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger. In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged.
The envoy reported, for example, that a Niger minister whose signature was on one of the documents had in fact been out of office for more than a decade. In addition, the Niger mining program was structured so that the uranium diversion had been impossible. The envoy’s debunking of the forgery was passed around the administration and seemed to be accepted — except that President Bush and the State Department kept citing it anyway. ‘It’s disingenuous for the State Department people to say they were bamboozled because they knew about this for a year,’ one insider said.”
Any attempt to say that Wilson told anyone that it was even slightly likely that Saddam had attempted to purchase uranium from Nigeria is strikingly delusional.
And none of this affects the fact that Bush was told months beforehand by his own intelligence community that it wasn’t true, and went forward with it anyway. This is what we in the reality-based community call “a lie”.
The “law” for the left is nothing more than a tool for their own use against their own domestic enemies and nothing more. Bogus cases against Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby, and worse…Jamie Gorelick’s machinations to coverup Clinton’s crimes before 9/11 are proof enough that the left puts party and liberalism ahead of any law. They care as much about the “rule of law” as I do about airport foot baths.
Ohhhh – he brings out the word “fascist” Ohhhh
Norm name the american citizen(s) that has been spied on
go ahead we are waiting………………
75:
I have provided links to back up every single thing I’ve said. One might call this “evidence”.
I notice you have provided nothing to support your claim that they are “bs”. One might call this “a lack of evidence”.
As such, it is not too surprising to me that you (and others here) are somewhat confused by the concept of “The Rule of Law”.
breschau
Whippet1 also provided a link to “evidence†which you seem to have ignored.
You appear to be good at the game of putting your hands over your ears and screaming LA-LA-LA-LA-LA
Nice try, Bresch. We already know that it was Wilson who was lying…and in fact, Saddam had attempted buying yellow cake more than once. Apparently Bresch subscribes to the same carpetbagger sales pitch methods as Norm and Truthy…just keep repeating the crap until someone buys it just to get rid of the stench!
YO NORM
name the american citizen(s) that has been spied on
go ahead we are STILL waiting………………
Ordi:
“Norm name the american citizen(s) that has been spied on
go ahead we are waiting”
Oh, come *on* – that’s brazenly dishonest, and you know it. How is anyone supposed to pull names from a *secret, illegal program* when the records have never been released, and the administration is doing everything in its power (including telecom immunity) to prevent that from happening?
The NSA spied illegally on American citizens. This is an undeniable fact.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/16program.html
Your question is equivalent to:
I have a dry erase marker in my hand right now.
name the color of that marker
go ahead we are waiting….
ordi…sorry that response was meant for ivehadit…who brought out the word fascist.
anyway – as for who has been spied on…that’s the technicality. but i would not be afraid to wager that most of us have been.
leftby75…big f’ing talk coming from the far right fringe that spent millions investigateing absolutely anything clintonian.
breschau
It was not me who brought the “alleged” american citizen(s) that has been spied on.
It was Norm that was brazenly dishonest to bring it up without “evidence†not to mention him using the word “fascist†to attempt to scare me off when in fact he is the one that ran away.
As for the color of YOUR marker – that is easy – yellow or is it red???
LOL
Now stop being brazenly dishonest yourself.
Just to let breschau and Norm know I am leaving to go to an appointment. I am not running out on a good debate. bbl
🙂
ordi…
Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, submitted an affidavit in support of the Electronic Fronteir Foundation’s FF’s lawsuit against AT&T. He testified that in 2003 he connected a “splitter” that sent a copy of Internet traffic and phone calls to a secure room that was operated by the NSA in the San Francisco office of AT&T. He heard from a co-worker that similar rooms were being constructed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. From “Whistle-Blower Outs NSA Spy Room”, Wired News, 4/7/06
I haven’t provided evidence that the sun rises in the east either.