Apr 10 2008
Best Reason I’ve Seen For McCain As President And The GOP In Congress
One thing America is sick of is the use of the law to settle differences of opinion. And the cutthroat crap in DC has been debilitating to the functioning of our government and juvenile in its claims. And so when the wacky left remind us they have plans for payback for Clinton’s impeachment, they make the best case why not to vote dem this year:
War Crimes
09 Apr 2008 07:11 pm
A provocative headline, I know, perhaps needlessly so, but it remains one of those hidden secrets in Washington that a Democratic Justice Department is going to be very interested in figuring out whether there’s a case to be made that senior Bush Administration officials were guilty of war crimes.
If a democrat Justice Department is going to spend any time investigating the man who stood upon the rubble of the World Trade Center and promised the terrorists they would be hearing from all of us soon enough, and then did what he promised he would do with Congressional and public backing at the time he did it, then there is no better reason to make sure there is a GOP Justice Department in place come next January. And we might as well neuter any similar dumb ideas in Congress as well.
Norm just saw your last post – for future reference using the word “fascist†in a debate is NOT a good idea. I don’t give a shit who used it first. it is bad form no matter who uses it.
“Whippet1 also provided a link to “evidence†which you seem to have ignored.”
*sigh* Okay, here’s the big revelation from Whippet’s link:
“[Wilson had] reported that former Nigerien Prime Minister Ibrahim Mayaki had told him of a 1999 visit by the Iraqis to discuss ‘commercial relations’.”
This was then *interpreted* by others to imply that it might have been about uranium. Wilson NEVER suggested it – and people who were in his briefing have said exactly that — from my link above: “that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged.”
I hope you all take note of the group dynamic here, btw – I’ve been civil and polite to everyone here, and have attempted to respect your opinions, even if I vehemently disagree with them. In return, I’ve been insulted time and again: accused of lying, “ignorant” (twice), “deranged”, “delusional”, “Mentally unstable”, “looking for extinction”, “clowns”, “bs”, the thought that I should be investigated,
“Playground antics”, “Fascist”, “carpetbagger”, etc.
I hope you are all proud of yourselves for your behavior today.
So Norm, does it concern you that the NSA wants to protect your sorry ass? Or do you think the NSA has a hard-on for your late night phone sex sessions? Which seems more plausible to you? I ask, because, well…frankly…most in this group aren’t exactly sure just how you’ll answer that one. I know how we’d answer it but a loose cannon like yourself? Anything’s possible.
Uh, Breschi…hint:
Wilson lied.
Norm, wake up will you? The Clinton administration was the most criminal ever to occupy the White House. Perhaps if you wanted to save the millions going after him, you should have voted for a real candidate rather than the equivalent of a Little Rock whorehouse mob boss.
75:
“So Norm, does it concern you that the NSA wants to protect your sorry ass?”
Okay, *that* is truly funny. The idea that the government would never, ever abuse eavesdropping powers, and would never spy on, say, political opponents has been disproven by… well, every adminstration that’s ever done it. Ever heard of the Church Committee?
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/church/contents.htm
Ask yourself this question: if Hillary Clinton was President, and you found out the NSA was spying on American citizens illegally, would you just assume that of course she was only going after suspected terrorists, and would never even consider listening in on, say, the RNC, or Karl Rove, or the Senate Minority Leader?
My goodness
I must be misinformed, I have been told
The left has this election in the bag, it’s a slam dunk
The right won’t believe a thing we more elite have to say so why waste our time
We are headed for sweeps like none have seen before
With two of their best to choose from and we still have to hear all this incorrect input from all these who just want to clutter up threads.
The must be scared that old geezer on the right might actually win this thing.
You have to admire all their dedication to spilling their wrong information into the threads.
Now if only they could put all that energy into something useful….
like getting a job…I already did mine I’m retired.
Breschau,
Keep on twisting…
I should be checking AJ’s archives for this information as I’m sure it’s there but we may as well go right to the source. “Report on the Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq”
http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/iraqreport2-textunder.pdf
specifically pages 40 to 44 for the intentionally misleading Joe Wilson and Pages 72-83 for the Niger conclusion.
When you accuse the President of the United States of lying about connections to 9/11, torture, war crimes, illegally wiretapping citizens, etc…. you are insulting most Americans including us. You got exactly what you deserve.
ordi…maybe you should talk to the extremists on this site who use the word fascist for anyone who happens to disagree with them whether it applies or not. i was simply explaining the proper application of the term to someone who insisted on mis-using it.
75…i expect the government to protect the constitution…period. i am not so afraid of anyone that goes boo that i’m willing to give up all my rights. i realize that most of the far right fringe on this site are willing to. a lot of people died to protect those rights and i find it disgraceful that so many take that for granted…but i also realize that fearful people make poor decisions.
We’re fearful? LOL! Denial is fear…and you are in denial. And by the way, what rights have you had to give up lately?
Breschau,
here do you people come from? Living in a cave like OBL?
The Saddam/AlQaeda connections have been thoroughly discussed and documented here and elsewhere. The Saddam WMD PROGRAMS have been documented. The Saddam interrogations even revealed his intentions. Bush’s honesty has never been credibly challenged.
The investigations that deserve to be made are press disclosures of secret information and Democrat attempts at foreign policy with foreign governments.
And to help you out, catching OBL is a detail in the GWOT. Defeating and dismantling Al Qaeda and the web of terrorism is much more than one man.
whippet…if the administration would stop obstructing justice and stonewalling congress and involving the doj in conflicts of interest i could tell you for sure. if denial is fear then you are petrified. why else would you possibly support the death of well over 4000 troops and the deficit expenditure of at least two trillion dollars for someone who posed no threat?
In spite of all the paranoid raving to the contrary there is no evidence that Bush spied on anyone. Year after year the left rants and raves about this crap and yet they can not come up with one single victim.
They are just partisan idiots trying to win an election, the truth means nothing to them.
Obstructing justice my ass. That is so lame.
I remember when the Democrats won in 2006, they promised to bring down the price of gas and cut the deficit. Thus far they have done neither. In fact, just the opposite. They do not care about the people of the United States, they just want to investigate and investigate and investigate.
Well maybe they should investigate themselves.
God knows between Obama and his weird friends and Hillary Clinton and her billionare buddies there are plenty of thieves to check into.
Bresch, the only government entities with a history of abusing eaves dropping powers were the Cllinton administration. The reason you all fear your own government is because it’s exactly what you would do when in office. Hell, Rockerfeller is even on record saying that’s what he uses sensitive intel for.
There’s Norm drawing that “4000” pistol again. Not very imaginative, Norm. You say it often enough…perhaps you should yell it louder…or hit the keys harder.
And Norm…if you are to continue quoting budget amounts in the trillions, at least go to the effort of A) getting the correct number and B) citing the same number.
$3 trillion, $2 trillion, back to $3 trillion. You’re spewing so much crap that you’re getting it on yourself. What a pathetic group this party has.
75…first off they are not budget amounts they are estimated costs carried out over time…you will have to show me where i said three trillion…i (almost) always use two trillion because that is the most conservative estimate…the correct number is probably going to be on the order of 5 trillion especially with bush abdicating the responsibility for his choices to the next administration. i do notice that you don’t have a number with which to counter my argument…you only bring personal attacks to the discussion.
Norm,
What’s a few trillion amoungst friends, right? It’s just a number. Doesn’t have to have any factual relevance. Unless of course, you are some super-duper idiot savant with numbers that you know all the projection formulas better than those specialists in our government. I know you must have been a General serving in at least one military conflict/war or served many many years at the government level in a military capacity to be such an expert on what the military has done wrong (since there is no right in your mind.) Oh yeah, and a lawyer at a high state or federal level since you are certain that high crimes have been committed even though after 7 years of investigations nothing has been found. But you know better!
The “Conservative” media told you so!!!!!
Hysterical.