Apr 11 2008
Is America A Nation Of Defeatists Or Ever Hopeful Fighters?
Margaret Carlson, die hard founding member of the liberal SurrenderMedia, is starting to wake up and see how the race for President will unfold, and why the dems have no chance of winning. She realizes that the race depends on your view of America, and your view of where you want to see it go:
pril 11 (Bloomberg) — As I was watching General David Petraeus being questioned in congressional hearings, I finally got why Senator John McCain has an even chance of being president in spite of supporting a war that most Americans are against.
As he’d done so many times before, McCain said we can win if we just pull up our socks and banish our defeatism. “We can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success,” he said, ensuring “that the terrible price we have paid in the war, a price that has made all of us sick at heart, has not been paid in vain.”
Don’t I wish? Don’t we all? I don’t buy his take on the war but, like half of America, I want to.
The signs of success have been building for a year now. If we remain diligent the chances are very high we will win. Last year at this time the fact was if we remained diligent we had a chance to turn things around – nothing more. But a year later al-Qaeda is all but vanquished. And no amount of misinformation about Sadr and his failed Iranian backed revolution can change the fact Sadr’s forces are being decimated and he is being political neutered (in fact, it may have already happened).
McCain can base his optimism on months and months of progress in security and political reconciliation. The Dems have to pretend none of that happened to make their case. They have to create fictional outcomes that have little likelihood of coming to fruition to say ‘get out now before all hell breaks loose’. Sadly, it is clear after this week if we get out now all hell will break lose. McCain is winning over America and it is easy to see why:
Internal polling data, presented privately last week at the Republican National Committee’s state chair meeting and provided to Politico, shows John McCain with a solid lead over both his potential general election rivals. Powered by the same appeal to Democrats and independents that fueled his primary election success, McCain is leading Barack Obama 48 percent to 42 percent and Hillary Clinton 51 percent to 40 percent according to RNC polling done late last month.
And if this is beginning momentum, which I think it is, going into the summer Americans will ponder two options: dark and dismal defeatism sprinkled with payback investigations into Bush’s presidency; a tough fight to succeed and show al-Qaeda democratic freedom is still the winner of all time in mankind’s history. I am pretty sure American are not ready to roll over and quit, not yet. It is even harder to quit when the Iraqis are still fighting the war we started, and Americans know that as well. It was all of us who gave the green light, we need to finish what we started.
On a philosophical level, the “dark and dismal” defeatism is a symptom of the inner lives of most of these global socialists. They hate. They mourn. They are angry and negative….all of which they project out onto the rest of us and want us to join them in their misery.
Misery loves miserable company. They despise successful and joyful people.
And then there are those like soros who are out for raw power and will use America’s bounty for their own personal greed…and ego, imho.
This election will be like none we have ever seen on the “darkness” scale. Praying hourly for my America, the Beautiful.
no pal…it wasn’t all of us who gave the green light. some of us can actually think for ourselves. but i’m sure blaming others helps you assuage your guilt, and to forget the blood on your hands. the big problem is that those who chose to start this lack the vision the wisdom the creativity and the courage to finish it.
Carlson’s rhetorical question, “Don’t I wish? Don’t we all?”, which she is using to give herself a faux appearance of reasonability, must actually be answered with a resounding “NO!” Because if Iraq turns out well, the surrendercrats will have to admit that Bush’s long term view was right and they were (gasp!) wrong! That, to them, is a fate far worse than anything that can be contemplated.
And so, in their eyes, defeat and disgrace is an end devoutly to be wished.
As always, Good News for America is Bad News for the left.
BTW, Mickey Kaus over at Slate has a scathing and devilishly hilarious takedown of the NYT’s coverage of the Basra fighting:
http://www.slate.com/id/2188487/
Norm talking about “courage” – what a laugh! Must be channeling Dan Rather again.
“… if iraq turns out well…” how does the an unnessecary deaths of 4000 americans, borrowing two trillion dollars, and the donation to iran of another ally in the region turn out well? please give me the cost benefit analyisis that makes that possible.
The falling apart of the JAM is, to me, as big or bigger of an event than the turning of the Sunnis away from al Qaida. I understand why we want a halt in our troop drawdown until that event fully plays out, at least until provincial elections in Southern Iraq. Those elections are going to re-align some power bases and there might be some trouble.
Norm,
We elected the government, it decided in our name. You can’t be in a democracy and out of it when it doesn’t toe your line. “We The People” authorized the war. Get over it dude.
Norm, I am going to put this as simply as I can. We gave Saddam Hussein a peaceful way out of this up until the very last day. Saddam could STILL be running his country today had he simply quit playing games with the weapons inspectors.
Let me put this as clearly as I know how:
After 9/11 the US postal system was used to deliver anthrax. After the first gulf war in Kuwait, we inventoried and sealed various quantities of anthrax. Bush sent the inspectors back in. The anthrax (and other materials such as mustard and nerve agents) were missing. We asked where they were. They told us they got rid of them but refused to say when, where, or by whom so we could verify that fact. We said fine, we are going to require a rigorous inspection regime to verify that he hadn’t simply moved them but he continued to play games with the inspectors. We told him to stop doing that or 18th Airborne Corps would be doing the inspecting. He continued to play games, we invaded.
We gave Saddam months to straighten out his act. He could still be there if he wanted to. He played a big game of chicken and lost.
And no one raises the big question: What if we HAD NOT gone into Iraq, based on the intelligence from multiple countries at the time? And what if we were attacked again as we were after the FIRST WTC Attack in 1993? And Saddam would have most certainly prevented the radical change that we are all witnessing in the Middle East.
Bottom line: democrats are willing to take risks with my safety that are unacceptable to me. Period.
Judgement. Common Sense. Experience. Some have it, some don’t.
listen i know you are all terribly afraid…but that still doesn’t make the cost benefit analysis work. conservatives used to be conservative. not sure what they are now.
“…democrats are willing to take risks with my safety that are unacceptable to me…” this is classic. on the republican administration’s watch we had buildings taken down, n. korea tested a nuclear weapon, and iran, on the verge of obtaining nuclear weapons, has another ally in a very volitaile region. and the democrats take chances. funny.
I think we’re being had. “Norm” is simply an AI program designed to make the stupidest possible response to any line of argument, in order for the programmer to observe the types of responses his illogic-bot draws in response.
I see Norm has reminded us of “4,000” and “$2 trillion” again (or was it $3 or $4 trillion?).
Everyone get that? You know, in case you hadn’t heard that from him before.
Norm,
“Some things that happened on our watch,” were not of our making.
ie:
911.
Weakened intelligence gathering by the Church commission.
Weakened intelligence sharing by Clinton and Gorelick
North Korea.
Clinton agreement with NK made it possible
Iran
Bush trusted our European Allies, in true multi-lateral fashion,
to”negotiate” a solution.
Finally, Your snarky reference to conservatives being “afraid”of terrorism is nothing more than empty bravado that just endangers our families. It shows no courage on your part.
Thank you President Bush for protecting these ungrateful whiners with the rest of us.
If there have been “months and months” of “progress” how’s come
Petraeus says no corners have been turned? The war is not a treadmill designed to take off soldiers’ weight.
Crossedupinneedofpatches.
Funny how Blix and Ritter, two of the most on-scene inspectors say Saddam was more honest about WMDs than Bush & Co. You’re slinging bull. Saddam slung the truth on 60 Minutes just short of the war when he told Rather, he had no WMDs and the Americans were perfectly aware of it.
Can you spell D-o-w-n-i-n-g S-t-r-e-e-t F-i-x?
Norm, the “bottom line” for he who has the quagmire is
simply the breaking of international law by way of pre-emption.
If you lose that gets you the Hague. Bush and Cheney can thank
the stars they are only tied, that is Mexican stand-offed. That is,
quagmired.
Ritter
Is this the same Scott Ritter who got 400 thousand smackers for doing a documentry rosying up Saddam’s image? Not biased, no, not at all. Just another treasonous leftie.
No, but Saddam still has far more admirers in Iraq than do the American occupiers, and not a few who still disdain him but voice their preference for him to those they consider inept and/or barbarian presiders over anarchy.
Truthy’s on a roll. Like Rush says, when an idiot wants the microphone, get out of his way.Tell us more Truthy, please? We are awed by your enlightenment.