Apr 15 2008

Pressure Building For Democrat Implosion

Published by AJStrata at 8:26 am under 2008 Elections, All General Discussions

I have to admit I have enjoyed watching the democrats self destruct this year. It has been slowly building as their once vaulted hopes of riding a defeat in Iraq to the White House have been dashed by not only a path to victory laid before us in Iraq, but the infighting of the left’s two prime identity groups – the only one’s really left – blacks and women. Sadly for these two respected elements of society they each are being represented by lame candidates, and they have helped create the pending low speed train wreck.

Hillary has trouble keeping reality and dreamland straight and can be so condescending one wonders whether she is as smart as every one claims. She is still riding Bill Clinton’s coat tails and the political machine they built from his presidency. Even with all that support she is flailing.

Obama looked to be the better candidate. He was a DC outsider, at a glance he looks stylish and poised. Hilariously he was able to destroy that image with a quick game of bowling where he bowled a ridiculous 37! Geez, how isolated has this man been from America? He was seen as something new, a way to get past the long gone racial divides that primarily exist today as romantic memories in some people’s minds. In the end we learned he was part of that stubborn group that will not let racial tensions die, who cannot get past the upheavals of the last century, who cannot see the progress and only see the US of KKKA.

To this point there was hope for Obama, but when he claimed bitter frustration was the reason for people to believe in God and demand the right to bear arms (just think of these two concepts in the Church of Reverend Wright!!) he exposed the fact he is a far left liberal trying to play a charade on America. That is a two punch blow: First for letting his condescending views about his supporters leak out, but also making it clear he has not been honest with them, basically putting on a show to fool them.

(and I am being generous here, the left is not all that astute at times – but then again the right can be tone death too) are just noticing the fact Obama is seriously damaged for the general election:

Obama comes from a modest background and has tried to appeal as a candidate of both Harvard Law School and Chicago’s Back-of-the-Yards, where he organized laid-off steel workers, but he hasn’t been able to pull it off. His manner, his tenor, and his diction are Harvard Law, and when he starts dropping his ‘g’s,” he sounds strained. And Obama is too young, and lacks the stature, to appear as a Franklin Roosevelt-style father figure.

These difficulties were clear before Obama spoke in San Francisco, but they’re much more glaring now. In the speech, Obama appeared to say that Pennsylvania voters’ opposition to gun control or abortion or immigration or free trade was pathological–a product of what Marxist philosopher Herbert Marcuse once called “false consciousness.” On the other hand, he implied that when he voiced opposition to an issue like free trade–Obama has consistently hammered Clinton on her support for the North American Free Trade Agreement–he was simply pandering to these voters’ displaced anxieties. He was saying to these upscale San Francisco Democrats, “I am really one of you, and I am not one of them.”

Oh, it was much worse than that. But liberals cannot grasp the damage done. And it is getting worse now that Obama’s name has come up in a scandal trial. Last thing America wants is another crooked pol in DC. Even if Obama is not implicated, America will take no chances with the Presidency.

What is really interesting is the Democrats also cannot stop Obama from winning the delegate count for the primaries. As I said, Clinton is such a bad candidate she could take out this neophyte early on. So what is happening is the support between Hillary and Obama keeps solidifying in the two liberal enclaves, each unwilling to take a back seat to the other victimized group (because that is all they represent on the left, victims’ groups). Now with Obama leading in delegates and popular vote he is imploding, putting pressure on the Democrat machine to make a move to save their dreams. They either up-end the primary process and put in Hillary (which would severe the democrats hold on the African American vote) or they put in someone who did not run like Al Bore (and destroy the party forever).

Watching the pressure build week after week is riveting. In one week so much pressure will be built up the entire party is going to be screaming for it to stop. But it can’t stop. The supporters will not back down and the candidates will not back down (and their supporters would not buy it anyway). It is amazing to watch, knowing the Democrats will be a crippled party one way or the other when this thing finally blows.

52 responses so far

52 Responses to “Pressure Building For Democrat Implosion”

  1. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 9:04 am

    “…when he claimed bitter frustration was the reason for people to believe in God and demand the right to bear arms…”
    when your argument depends upon mis-representation how valid is your argument?

  2. AJStrataon 15 Apr 2008 at 9:18 am

    Norm,

    It is what he said – get over it. Your hero is a clown.

  3. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 9:38 am

    no aj…that is not what he said and you know it. like iraq, wishing for “victory” and saying it over and over again does not make it so. it appears from polling out today that most sane people realize it.
    actually i think the worst thing that can happen will happen when a democrat takes over the white house along with a large number of additional seats in congress. it didn’t work for bush in his first term and it didn’t work for clinton in his first four years. if i had my way the dems would take the white house and the republicans would take back the majority on the hill. my second choice would have been that the republicans had managed to come up with someone that promised a significant change from bush and the democrats had a veto proof majority. only then would washington be forced to work in a bi-partisan manner and forgo the childish hyper-partisanship espoused by sites like this.

  4. agimarcon 15 Apr 2008 at 9:39 am

    Now here’s the funny part: As the dems self destruct at the presidential level, their new majority in congress is polling lower than the Repubicans did in 2006 and the dems did in 1994. How can you retain or expand a congressional majority that way? Yet the conventional wisdom is that they will significantly expand their control of congress. I think the stage is set for a general housecleaning in November – with a bunch of people currently in office getting summarily tossed. We may end up with McCain, a Republican majority in the House, and a democrat majority in the Senate after all the yelling stops. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not. But it will certainly be interesting to watch.

  5. MerlinOS2on 15 Apr 2008 at 9:54 am

    AJ

    It also looks from some of the stories popping up that the various unions in each camp are starting a little blue on blue action themselves.

    Steve Austin

    I can’t hold her she’s breaking up!

  6. AJStrataon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:13 am

    Yes norm, he said their bitterness pushed them to god and guns. Making up fantasies to avoid the disaster is not going to fix the problem!

  7. ivehaditon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:17 am

    Excellent post, AJ. Right on the money. The party of victims and underfunctioning ones is having its day. The American public is getting to see it in full bloom as they let us know who they REALLY are.
    They are reaping what they have sown….and what they foisted on all of us lo these past decades…especially the clinton era.

    It feels good…really, really good…for justice and the truth to finally come out!

  8. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:21 am

    aj…not only is in not what he said…your last statement is not even the same as your first. things can get delusional out there on the fringe sometimes eh?

  9. AJStrataon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:28 am

    Norm,

    I warned you – don’t insult the host. Last one kid and you are outta here.

  10. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:42 am

    aj…please show me where obama claimed “…bitter frustration was the reason for people to believe in God and demand the right to bear arms…” you really shouldn’t get insulted and pout because someone points out an error you keep repeating. you should be thankful.

  11. AJStrataon 15 Apr 2008 at 10:47 am

    Norm,

    Your just not that smart. The only way you missed the ‘ bitterness’ comments is if you failed to read or watch the news for many days now.

    Yes Norm, I am thankful I am not you. Count on it. I would be embarrassed to be so ignorant.

  12. Neoon 15 Apr 2008 at 11:00 am

    How can you retain or expand a congressional majority that way? By keeping a low profile.

    Notice that you haven’t heard boo about the other co-equal branch of government (hint: Congress). No more end the war in Iraq votes for how long now ? Only one pathetic hearing with the oil companies .. while gas prices continue to go up .. up .. & up.

    But why nothing on energy, save conservation and ethanol (making corn prices higher) ? But they do have a few spare moments to take a free trade pact, that would probably generate more trade and jobs, off the agenda.

    Where are these “champions of the little guy” ? Out in SF telling a bunch of top income earners that the “little guy”-s are clinging to their “religion and guns” while basking in “frustration” and “bitter”-ness.

  13. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 11:04 am

    aj…i didn’t miss the bitterness comment…but you are mis-representing what he said in order to make your point. if you had a valid point you wouldn’t have to do that.

  14. AJStrataon 15 Apr 2008 at 11:18 am

    Norm,

    I am not misrepresenting what he said because he has had to go out and clarify it and when he does he says the same thing – bitterness drove america towards church and guns.

    Your hero is imploding, don’t blame me for seeing it so you can pretend it is not happening.

  15. 75on 15 Apr 2008 at 11:25 am

    Seriously, people…I must ask in all honesty…is there anything more fun than watching an idiot like Norm hopelessly try to twist and turn, spin, and otherwise flip, flop, and fumble their way out of an indefensible position?

  16. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 12:54 pm

    aj…this is now another statement that does not match your original statement. “…bitterness drove america towards church and guns…” is not the same as “…the reason for people to believe in God and demand the right to bear arms…” you can’t even get your own mis-representations straight.

  17. Terryeon 15 Apr 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Norm:

    Are you hearing impaired? Obama is condescending prick who said one thing in front of his audience of billionares and something else for his silly little peasant fan club.

    He is hypocrite.

    And btw, I used to be a Democrat. It was people like you and Obama who drove me from my party.

  18. Terryeon 15 Apr 2008 at 1:10 pm

    The thing is trade is not costing jobs and if the Democrats get in there and force Americans to spend more money for everything from clothes to cars to appliances to food just so they can pander to the AFL-CIO while meanwhile jobs do not appear, where does that leave them?

    Recently a friend of mine brought a new tractor. It was Romanian. It was assemble in Arkansas the dealer was from Kentucky. If Obama and his friends get their way, this guy could not have gotten a new tractor because a John Deere was too expensive, the factory in Arkansas would not be in business and neither would the dealership in Kentucky. Who does that help? This is something they have never cared to understand, trade=commerce.

  19. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 1:12 pm

    psssst…terrye…um…i don’t think this blog has an audio component. but i read very well thank you. i understand what words mean, and can recognize when they are being mis-represented to make a political point.

  20. Whippet1on 15 Apr 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Norm,
    And what exactly is it that your little deaf ears heard Obama say?

  21. missy1on 15 Apr 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Here you go Norm, audio and print version as well as highlights of Obama’s big day with his billionaire buds:

    http://www.zombietime.com/obama_visits_billionaires_row/

  22. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 2:02 pm

    well missy that’s a great link…thanks…i love it when they blank out the eyes. only it doesn’t actually link to the entire transcript in context. more tellingly…the part of the quote it does show does not say that “…bitter frustration was the reason for people to believe in God and demand the right to bear arms…”

  23. Whippet1on 15 Apr 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Norm,
    From Obama’s speech via zombietime:

    “You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, a lot of them — like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they’ve gone through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    What is your interpretation of that statement?

  24. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 2:58 pm

    whippet…i am not so naive to believe you care one whit about my interpretation…or anyone’s interpretation that does not agree with yours. however, on a very basic level, even those who are challenged by the english language can see that to “cling to” something is not in any way the same as “the reason for” something. “the reason for” something denotes the sole cause. to “cling to” something means to hold on tightly, but does not imply a singular cause and effect. the two are not interchangeable, and the use of “the reason for” is a mis-representation.

  25. truthhard2takeon 15 Apr 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Too bad the nominal “white” is as mediocre a candidate -and more dangerous to boot–than the so-so black yuppie and the coat-riding feminist imposter. You have to go to Nader for consistent quality and a better representative of Arab Americans than the others are for their groupings.

  26. DaleinAtlantaon 15 Apr 2008 at 3:06 pm

    AJ: when the entire rational of your so-called “Political Party” is based upon Surrender, Socialism and Taxes, what do you expect?

    They truly are the party of:

    Hate
    Treason
    Sedition
    Taxes
    Socialism
    Surrender
    Racism

    and thanks to Obama and Hillary and Jimmy Carter, the American people are starting to figure that out, finally…

  27. Dcon 15 Apr 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Here’s the part he said after “they get bitter”

    “…and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    It seem quite clear to me that what he is saying, or more appropriately what he “said”, is that these people cling to these things (guns, religion, antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, anti-trade sentiment) as an expression, or a way to explain, their own bitterness about the way their lives are.

    I can understand why Obama wants to focus on the “bitter” part, or the reasons he feels people are bitter etc., or how they got that way, because it’s the last part of this that really got him in trouble.

    The first part was about why he thinks they are bitter. Some would say…that part also was elitist and leftist in it’s meaning. But, really, it’s quite simple, it’s because of Booooosh.

  28. 75on 15 Apr 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Norm’s reaching entirely new dimensions of stupid. Oh Dear God, how I love it so!

  29. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 4:07 pm

    please 73…explain yourself. i’d love to hear the reasoning behind your substance free personal attack.

  30. 75on 15 Apr 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Your attempts to carry the water for B. Hussein’s comments have been comical in the least and darn right asinine at best. AJ’s assessment is dead on and B. Hussein has an entire history of thinking, acting, associating, and behaving exactly as such. The mere idea let alone fact that you’ve chosen this particular subject to hold your ground just confirms our worst thoughts about your abilities.

    But you did get something right and for that you earn points…no one cares “one whit about your interpretation.”

  31. The Mackeron 15 Apr 2008 at 4:19 pm

    75,
    “dimensions of stupidity” was aptly described by Clarice Feldman as:

    “If voters get even slightly more ignorant we will have to do what they do in the Third World–just vote for emblems…Cow/Sun, etc.”

    Case in point: O’Bama trying to explain to his followers what the word “bamboozled” means.

  32. VinceP1974on 15 Apr 2008 at 4:19 pm

    It’s only understandable that Obama would view these people as being bitter.

    Wouldn’t you think everyone is bitter when you go to a church that has a rabidly bitter Anti-american former muslim as a pastor?

    You associate with bitter leftists as the University of Chicago

    You associate with bitter aged hippy terrorists who used to bomb Washington DC

    You’re wife is an angry embittered Affirmation Action case

    One of your heros is the bitter Louis Ferrakhan

    Your mother is a bitter Communist

    Your father is a angry bitter Muslim fundamentalist

    Your step father is an angry bitter Muslim fundamentalist

    Your mother’s father is a bitter lazy old man

    This is the world Obama comes from. Only a fool would support this empty suit.

  33. normon 15 Apr 2008 at 4:25 pm

    yawn…

  34. 75on 15 Apr 2008 at 4:27 pm

    That’s exactly right, Vince. He’s the perfect candidate for our left brethren here…an entire career made on pure hatred and bigotry. And Norm Worm Tongue has the gall to whine about personal attacks. His very candidate thrives on them.

  35. Whippet1on 15 Apr 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Norm,

    So we can now add mind reader to your list of qualifications along with military expert, accountant extraordinaire, mideast expert, etc. etc.

    And since you are simply parsing words you are conveniently avoiding the entire point of the statement that Obama made.

    So let’s cut to the chase… Obama said ” it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    What does that mean to you?

  36. truthhard2takeon 15 Apr 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Macker

    Does Feldman’s assurance the Iraq War had tunred the corner several years ago qualify her as stupid?

  37. The Mackeron 15 Apr 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Truthy,
    Which corner?

    As long as the Left cheers the enemy on, there will be more corners to turn.

  38. Whippet1on 15 Apr 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Truthy,

    “Does Feldman’s assurance the Iraq War had tunred the corner several years ago qualify her as stupid?”

    No. But it does show she has amazing insight.

  39. 75on 15 Apr 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Truthfully, the corner in the Iraq War was turned long ago. I’d say what is happening now is reconstruction, rebuilding, reorganizing, and reconsolidating. Reeducation, of course, takes much longer for the Truth’s and Norms of the world.

  40. Dcon 16 Apr 2008 at 12:47 am

    I”ll repeat it again as evidently…it has yet to be addressed by anyone (including Obama)

    “…and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

  41. normon 16 Apr 2008 at 9:00 am

    whippet…i’m not a mind reader i just base my observations on past behavior. on a similar thread monday i was told no one cared for my analysis. so on this thread i simply focused on the meanings of words which is beyond dispute for logical people.
    as for what i think obama meant…because you asked twice…every four years politicians from both sides of the aisle spread out across the country and talk about all the good things they are going to do for everyone…then they go to washington and forget all about it until the next election cycle. obama was simply pointing out what many people have pointed out before…the folks who have lost jobs to mexico and india and have lost their healthcare don’t believe they are going to get any help on any of these things from politicians because all they ever hear is empty promises. things like hunting and church and cultural tradition are important to a lot of people but especially small town america. so when republicans push those wedge issues and say someone wants to take their guns away, or push ridiculous gay-marriage amendments, or go on anti-immigration rants they vote on those issues rather than in their own economic self-interests. it’s a simple argument…and it’s not elitist. if you want to know more i suggest you read “what’s wrong with kansas” by thomas frank.

  42. 75on 16 Apr 2008 at 10:57 am

    Leave it to Norm to cite a book with overtly liberal elitist snobbery to make his non-elitist point of view.

  43. Dcon 16 Apr 2008 at 11:15 am

    Beyond dispute? The only part of his statement that anyone trying to defend it has addressed, including yourself, is the first part about people being “bitter” and why they are bitter. Obama, and anyone trying to defend this statement just walked right away from the 2nd part of the sentence as if it didn’t exist—the 2nd part being what ties the point he was making in in the first part in an entirely different direction. That also is beyond dispute—for logical thinking people.

  44. Dcon 16 Apr 2008 at 11:25 am

    As for literary suggestions, I would suggest branching out to different points of view, different opinions, theories, etc. I would also suggest that having an opinion or theory doesn’t therefore making it factual. This is something most younger, liberal minded people have a lot of trouble with these days.

    example: A happened. B happened. Therefore: A caused B.

    If you question the cause/effect relationship in the above example, a they typically respond….well….A happened. B happened. That proves it. They also pretty much believe everything they read and seek out only books that re-enforce their own views— instead of broadening their understanding. There’s a book store close by me called “The Unimperialistic, Unoppressive Book Store” whos shelves are full of nothing but leftist propaganda and socialist heros.

  45. 75on 16 Apr 2008 at 11:25 am

    Dc, this is what they’ve become…relegated to cheap debate tactics such as ommission, parsing, and context. I’ve even had lefties argue over typos! Their candidates are such lowlifes that they are now put in the absurd position of defending a completely racist statement from a racist candidate. What a hell they must live in to have to live in such a swamp of falsehoods and minutia. They’re reaping what they’ve sown and it just gets more and more outrageous.

  46. normon 16 Apr 2008 at 11:40 am

    rascist…now it’s rascist? amazing. astounding. buy a dog, name it clue, then you will have one.

  47. Whippet1on 16 Apr 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Norm,
    “.” rascist…now it’s rascist? amazing. astounding. buy a dog, name it clue, then you will have one.”

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. If you want to continue whining about people’s immature comments than I suggest you stop making immature comments yourself. That or quit whining…

    “things like hunting and church and cultural tradition are important to a lot of people but especially small town america. so when republicans push those wedge issues and say someone wants to take their guns away, or push ridiculous gay-marriage amendments, or go on anti-immigration rants they vote on those issues rather than in their own economic self-interests. it’s a simple argument…and it’s not elitist.”

    Out of Obama’s mouth and blamed on the Republicans. Amazing…you’ve become quite skilled in liberalspeak.

  48. 75on 16 Apr 2008 at 1:23 pm

    What do you mean “now” it’s racist?
    Clearly, Obama’s been raised as a hate-filled racist from a very young age. Just how much more evidence do you need?

  49. Whippet1on 16 Apr 2008 at 1:33 pm

    “…and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    Yes, racist.

  50. 75on 16 Apr 2008 at 1:50 pm

    He mentioned everything but white sheets and burning crosses….
    But I’m sure his reverend has covered that once or twice in his life.

  51. truthhard2takeon 16 Apr 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Whether he’s racist or not, he wouldn’t be a threat to the presidency
    were it not for the failed Iraq War based on lies, which catapulted him to viability because of Hillary’s initial support of the war and her ensuing unpopularity with the Democratic left-mainstream.
    Since you warmongers supported and support the war, blame yourselves.

  52. 75on 16 Apr 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Truthy’s in desperate need of a thesaurus. Parrots don’t repeat things as often as this idiot.

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