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		<title>By: truthhard2take</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5330/comment-page-1#comment-311961</link>
		<dc:creator>truthhard2take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an unknown, as far as can be determined. On the other hand, notable military can be quoted saying worse about Petraeus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an unknown, as far as can be determined. On the other hand, notable military can be quoted saying worse about Petraeus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobalt Shiva</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5330/comment-page-1#comment-311595</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobalt Shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist&lt;/i&gt;

Full stop right there, buddy.

John Boyd was a brilliant strategist. Lind is a blowhard hack who is utterly unashamed to take credit for Boyd&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist</i></p>
<p>Full stop right there, buddy.</p>
<p>John Boyd was a brilliant strategist. Lind is a blowhard hack who is utterly unashamed to take credit for Boyd&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
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		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraqi Forces Surround Al-Sadrâ€™s â€˜Office Blockâ€™
April 18th, 2008 
From those friends of terror at Al Jazeera: 

From Sweetness and Light...


Iraqi police patrol the southern city of Basra. 
Iraqi forces surround Sadr office
Friday April 18, 2008 

Iraqi troops have surrounded an office block used by supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr, leader of the Shia al-Mahdi Army, in the southern city of Basra. 

Al-Sadrâ€™s supporters criticised the move on Friday as a â€œprovocationâ€, but the government said its operation was aimed only at recovering offices unfairly occupied by political groups. 

Sheikh Harith al-Athari, the head of the Basra office, said: â€œThe police and the army have laid siege to Sadrâ€™s office in Basra. 

â€œThey have also stopped people from attending Friday prayers. The forces, backed by armoured vehicles, have asked us to leave the building.â€ 

General Abdel Karim Khalaf, an interior ministry spokesman, said the operation had been approved by Nuri al-Maliki, the prime minister. 

He said that al-Maliki had ordered government troops to take possession of all government buildings in Basra within 48 hours. 

Journalists in Basra reported that al-Sadr supporters had refused to leave. 

Salah al-Obeidi, a Sadr spokesman from Najaf, in central Iraq, called the move â€œa provocation that will induce people to resort to forceâ€. 

â€œThe objective of the security forces is to further aggravate tensions and it shows the governmentâ€™s claims that it is not targeting Sadr supporters to be false,â€ he said. 

The al-Sadr office in Basra is in an old Olympic committee buildingâ€¦

This could get very interesting. 

And of course it is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraqi Forces Surround Al-Sadrâ€™s â€˜Office Blockâ€™<br />
April 18th, 2008<br />
From those friends of terror at Al Jazeera: </p>
<p>From Sweetness and Light&#8230;</p>
<p>Iraqi police patrol the southern city of Basra.<br />
Iraqi forces surround Sadr office<br />
Friday April 18, 2008 </p>
<p>Iraqi troops have surrounded an office block used by supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr, leader of the Shia al-Mahdi Army, in the southern city of Basra. </p>
<p>Al-Sadrâ€™s supporters criticised the move on Friday as a â€œprovocationâ€, but the government said its operation was aimed only at recovering offices unfairly occupied by political groups. </p>
<p>Sheikh Harith al-Athari, the head of the Basra office, said: â€œThe police and the army have laid siege to Sadrâ€™s office in Basra. </p>
<p>â€œThey have also stopped people from attending Friday prayers. The forces, backed by armoured vehicles, have asked us to leave the building.â€ </p>
<p>General Abdel Karim Khalaf, an interior ministry spokesman, said the operation had been approved by Nuri al-Maliki, the prime minister. </p>
<p>He said that al-Maliki had ordered government troops to take possession of all government buildings in Basra within 48 hours. </p>
<p>Journalists in Basra reported that al-Sadr supporters had refused to leave. </p>
<p>Salah al-Obeidi, a Sadr spokesman from Najaf, in central Iraq, called the move â€œa provocation that will induce people to resort to forceâ€. </p>
<p>â€œThe objective of the security forces is to further aggravate tensions and it shows the governmentâ€™s claims that it is not targeting Sadr supporters to be false,â€ he said. </p>
<p>The al-Sadr office in Basra is in an old Olympic committee buildingâ€¦</p>
<p>This could get very interesting. </p>
<p>And of course it is long overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5330/comment-page-1#comment-311550</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, &quot;Truthy&quot;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_basra_s_revival_1;_ylt=AnAm6vAlkUriiKmcXTmS4fFX6GMA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;even the AP can&#039;t ignore the progress in Basra&lt;/a&gt; any longer.

&quot;Basra&#039;s `dark ages&#039; lifting as hard-line grip weakens&quot;

Sadr&#039;s defeat of Maliki!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, &#8220;Truthy&#8221;, <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_basra_s_revival_1;_ylt=AnAm6vAlkUriiKmcXTmS4fFX6GMA" rel="nofollow">even the AP can&#8217;t ignore the progress in Basra</a> any longer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Basra&#8217;s `dark ages&#8217; lifting as hard-line grip weakens&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadr&#8217;s defeat of Maliki!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, are you really posting as Truthtard/Ken/whatever just to entertain us?  Pulling our legs a little?  It just seems a little too obviously lunatic left ... all the &quot;correct&quot; rhetoric and stuff but making no sense whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, are you really posting as Truthtard/Ken/whatever just to entertain us?  Pulling our legs a little?  It just seems a little too obviously lunatic left &#8230; all the &#8220;correct&#8221; rhetoric and stuff but making no sense whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist, tells us why al Sadrâ€™s defeat of Maliki at Basr proves that Iraq has no viable government at present.&quot;

That is absolutely hilarious.  I mean really.  Anyone buying that load of crap deserves to have their voter registration revoked.  They are too dumb to vote.  

Sadr&#039;s defeat of Maliki?  When?  Where?  Just saying that doesn&#039;t make it real.  Iraqi forces put the smackdown on the JAM.  Iraqi and coalition forces are in control of Basra, and control 1/3 of Sadr City.  Sadr is the one who begged for a ceasefire, probably the first time in history the &quot;winner&quot; of a battle has ever done so, and Grand Ayatollah  Sistani has TWICE told him to shut up and do as he is told by Maliki and the central government.

Sadr&#039;s defeat of Maliki indeed ... that&#039;s rich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist, tells us why al Sadrâ€™s defeat of Maliki at Basr proves that Iraq has no viable government at present.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is absolutely hilarious.  I mean really.  Anyone buying that load of crap deserves to have their voter registration revoked.  They are too dumb to vote.  </p>
<p>Sadr&#8217;s defeat of Maliki?  When?  Where?  Just saying that doesn&#8217;t make it real.  Iraqi forces put the smackdown on the JAM.  Iraqi and coalition forces are in control of Basra, and control 1/3 of Sadr City.  Sadr is the one who begged for a ceasefire, probably the first time in history the &#8220;winner&#8221; of a battle has ever done so, and Grand Ayatollah  Sistani has TWICE told him to shut up and do as he is told by Maliki and the central government.</p>
<p>Sadr&#8217;s defeat of Maliki indeed &#8230; that&#8217;s rich!</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
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		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthy&#039;s backing Iran. Must be a Cubs fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthy&#8217;s backing Iran. Must be a Cubs fan.</p>
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		<title>By: truthhard2take</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5330/comment-page-1#comment-311468</link>
		<dc:creator>truthhard2take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just put this down to cut to the quick of you hapless
war supporting imperialists.

I might have detached preferences regarding the players
in the various Iraq rivals for power, but I know better than to believe my preferences are anything but narrow and provincial guesswork compared to whom the Iraqis prefer, Sunnis and Shias alike.
(The Kurds are tangential, most not even wishing to be part of Iraq.)

On the other hand, Strata and Bush dupes side with any combination of forces that they persuade themselves are friends of the occupier.

The foundational truth is this: Iran has ties to all these players, and Iran now has the leverage to insure, through balancing, giving and taking away levels of aid and co-operation to them, overtly and surreptitously, that no matter who has the balance of power in Iraq in the end, Iran will be the winner, not America.

Deal with it.losers. I couldn&#039;t care less how you do, I in fact have more
empathy for the Iraqi Sunnis insofar as hoping they can get a fair shake from the Shia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just put this down to cut to the quick of you hapless<br />
war supporting imperialists.</p>
<p>I might have detached preferences regarding the players<br />
in the various Iraq rivals for power, but I know better than to believe my preferences are anything but narrow and provincial guesswork compared to whom the Iraqis prefer, Sunnis and Shias alike.<br />
(The Kurds are tangential, most not even wishing to be part of Iraq.)</p>
<p>On the other hand, Strata and Bush dupes side with any combination of forces that they persuade themselves are friends of the occupier.</p>
<p>The foundational truth is this: Iran has ties to all these players, and Iran now has the leverage to insure, through balancing, giving and taking away levels of aid and co-operation to them, overtly and surreptitously, that no matter who has the balance of power in Iraq in the end, Iran will be the winner, not America.</p>
<p>Deal with it.losers. I couldn&#8217;t care less how you do, I in fact have more<br />
empathy for the Iraqi Sunnis insofar as hoping they can get a fair shake from the Shia.</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People with no knowledge of history (such as T2T) have no clue that desertion has always been one of the biggest problems armies in all places and all times have faced.   This is why such an emphasis is placed on it.  Referencing the Civil War, it wasn&#039;t just federal armies that had the problem - the Confederacy did as well.  

Here&#039;s a typical method of dealing with the problem - Maliki&#039;s gov&#039;t, as far as I&#039;ve heard, hasn&#039;t gotten anywhere these methods yet:

&quot;On March 29, 1865, Lt. Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, accompanying the division of Brig. Gen. W. H. Jackson on its march from West Point and Columbus, Miss., to Tuscaloosa, Ala., crossed the Sipsey River over a bridge. Two deserters were apprehended by the provost at this point, which were presented to Forrest himself. The general convened a drumhead court-martial, which found the two guilty. Forrest ordered immediate execution by firing squad, after which the bodies were laid out beside the road near the bridge while the columns passed. He then ordered a detachment to be posted at the bridge to watch for other deserters (covering two ferry crossings near the bridge, and naming the same), executing any such individuals in a like manner at the bridge. The bodies of those executed, and presumably any others shot, were to be buried near the bridge two days after the sentence had been carried out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People with no knowledge of history (such as T2T) have no clue that desertion has always been one of the biggest problems armies in all places and all times have faced.   This is why such an emphasis is placed on it.  Referencing the Civil War, it wasn&#8217;t just federal armies that had the problem &#8211; the Confederacy did as well.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a typical method of dealing with the problem &#8211; Maliki&#8217;s gov&#8217;t, as far as I&#8217;ve heard, hasn&#8217;t gotten anywhere these methods yet:</p>
<p>&#8220;On March 29, 1865, Lt. Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, accompanying the division of Brig. Gen. W. H. Jackson on its march from West Point and Columbus, Miss., to Tuscaloosa, Ala., crossed the Sipsey River over a bridge. Two deserters were apprehended by the provost at this point, which were presented to Forrest himself. The general convened a drumhead court-martial, which found the two guilty. Forrest ordered immediate execution by firing squad, after which the bodies were laid out beside the road near the bridge while the columns passed. He then ordered a detachment to be posted at the bridge to watch for other deserters (covering two ferry crossings near the bridge, and naming the same), executing any such individuals in a like manner at the bridge. The bodies of those executed, and presumably any others shot, were to be buried near the bridge two days after the sentence had been carried out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
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		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t say much for Sadr&#039;s forces, then, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t say much for Sadr&#8217;s forces, then, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: truthhard2take</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthhard2take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the hapless Peters&#039; examples, one almost wishes for his own reputation&#039;s sake,the American forces he cites so often as abandoning posts before ultimate victory, were also fighting under the impress of a puppet government itself &quot;formed&quot; under occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the hapless Peters&#8217; examples, one almost wishes for his own reputation&#8217;s sake,the American forces he cites so often as abandoning posts before ultimate victory, were also fighting under the impress of a puppet government itself &#8220;formed&#8221; under occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: truthhard2take</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthhard2take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to insure the violent opposition , or support thereof, of 95% of the Iraqi people,  is to convince them the current government is ,(&quot;The assassination attempts are clearly attacks  on Iraqâ€™s) government, &lt;b&gt;now a US ally.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to insure the violent opposition , or support thereof, of 95% of the Iraqi people,  is to convince them the current government is ,(&#8220;The assassination attempts are clearly attacks  on Iraqâ€™s) government, <b>now a US ally.&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: truthhard2take</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthhard2take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://counterpunch.org/lind04172008.html

William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist, tells us why al Sadr&#039;s defeat of Maliki at Basr proves that Iraq has no viable government at present. Mata, who believes America has right to stay in Iraq against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Iraqis, because puppet Maliki says so, should take note.</description>
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<p>William Lind, of the Center for Cultural Conservatism, and a brilliant strategist, tells us why al Sadr&#8217;s defeat of Maliki at Basr proves that Iraq has no viable government at present. Mata, who believes America has right to stay in Iraq against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Iraqis, because puppet Maliki says so, should take note.</p>
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