Apr 20 2008
SurrenderMedia Scrapes To Find Defeat Against Mahdi Army
I posted recently on how the Mahdi Army is being whooped across Iraq, from Baghdad to Basra and posts in between (see here and here). Karl over at Protein Wisdom has caught the LA Times grasping for some news of US-Iraq defeat in all this victory, but having to admit to all the victory anyway:
This time, the grand ayatollahs have declined to aid the incendiary cleric.
Three days into the Basra campaign, Grand Ayatollah Najafi issued a fatwa, or religious opinion or edict, that declared the Iraqi government as the only force in the country with the right to bear arms.
His son, Sheik Ali Najafi, left little doubt that the clergy had backed the Iraqi army operations.
“We see this as a positive improvement. . . . The people want the government to control the streets and the law to be enforced. No other groups,†he said, sitting in his study, furnished with cushions, a laptop and a clock bearing his father’s portrait.
I predicted back on April 7th (2008) that Sistani would side with Maliki and pull the rug out from Sadr. Without support and credibility from Sistani Sadr was exposed. Now in open defiance to the Grand Ayatollah Sadr has become an enemy of the Shiia in Iraq. There will be no large scale civil war because the Shiia will not rise up against Sistani. Sadr is completely isolated. His forces either disband or are destroyed. There is no path to victory left for him with Sistani on Maliki’s side.
Update: I neglected to copy this key passage from the article:
Their stance is a gamble. An influential cleric who is knowledgeable about talks between the Sadr movement and the grand ayatollahs described the situation in bleak terms: The government is weak, and Sadr aides now acknowledge privately that they have lost control of members who are receiving support from Iran.
“There are groups in the Mahdi Army who are kidnapping, killing and stealing. They don’t listen to Muqtada. They are openly operating with Iranian interests,” he said.
The cleric asked that his name not be used because he feared assassination. Everywhere, he saw Iran’s influence. “In the beginning, it was Arab countries playing a negative role. Now after Qaeda has fallen, it is Iran. Iran wants to control Iraq, and change the hawza from Najaf to Qom.”
Which is what I suspected – Sadr has lost control and is now just a charade. Iran is running a proxy war according to the Sadrists and Shiites in Iraq. Wonder how the Surrendercrats on the left will try and deny this reporting.
Bull crap. Terrye. As Strata knows, I corrected him on this lie in the past month, right from a 2004 poll of Iraqis who said they wanted US troops out regardless of whether a civil war followed or not.
Terrye: Don’t let it draw you into a fight. That’s what it wants.
truth:
The Iraqi soldiers did a pretty good job all told and I keep hearing that they need to step up so that we can leave. You see that is what is so ridiculous about the opposition. On one hand they demand that the Iraqis do more and say they are getting a free ride and need to reconcile blah blah blah and on the other they say that it is all our fault. Which is it? Are the Iraqis refusing to step up or are they uninspired?
I wonder who the left would blame if they abandoned Iraq and genocide followed. The oil stopped flowing out of Iraq and prices were over $200 a barrel and the Turks and Iranians invaded?
My guess is they would blame anyone but themselves. Typical. After all it was the left who made sure we jacked with Saddam for the entire 90’s. They could have resolved the situation one way or another years before Bush ever came to office but refused to do so.
Fixing things is not their best thing, bitching after the fact is. Just ask that incompetent hack Hans Blix.
You approved of the US soft alliance with Iraq until Saddam invaded Kuwait though, didn’t you? The aid we gave him to fight Iran? If not, post an objection from the period.
Vince:
You are right. Thanks for reminding me.
You’re in a right-left dream world too, Terrye. About half of all self-identifying conservatives turned against the war more than a year ago. Sorry, but neither you nor the left can throw around the labels anymore to suit provincial purposes.
Besides he is a dumb ass.
January 2005: 82 percent of Sunni Arabs and 69 percent of Shiites favor US withdrawal ãeither immediately or after an elected government is in place.ä (Zogby)
You’re both dumb and ill-informed.
Now how long has it been that the elected government you brag so much about has been “in place?”
You’re not “pro-Iraqi.” You’re worse than a meddling in-law who squatters unwanted in a married couples home.
Strata is so outclassed by the Iranians-just like Chalabi outclassed the neocons who “used” him. AJ, mum’s the word, won’t tell a soul I told you. Iran doesn’t put all its eggs in one basket.
Terrye
H2T is an idiot who has admitted he is praying America loses because if not he will have to admit he is an idiot and was wrong. See, we all have to pay so he doesn’t have to face up to his mistakes.
He slipped yesterday and ever since it is all you need to know. For example, there are many polls which refute his claims, but he is afraid to admit it because it would make him face is foibles.
Oops, there’s those ugly little inconvenient things called FACTS, that the Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Traitor Nutbag Sockpuppet-master, “TRUTHMASTERBATES” forgot to include in his latest brain-dead rants, he’s so desperate to show Negative Iraqi Public Opinion Polls, that he’s quoting 2004 and 2005 Polls, because they are the only ones he can find, that mindnumbingly parrot his own braindead Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Traitor Leftist Nutbag Democratic Talking Points.
He somehow, completely MISSES this LATEST Iraqi Opinion Poll:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1060a1IraqWhereThingsStand.pdf
by those screaming raving lunatics Rightwing crazies at BBC and ABC and NHK…….chirp……chirp…..chirp…….
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
Ouch!
Seems like the Iraqis, in MARCH 2008, don’t agree with what you say they wanted in 2004 and 2005……
Hmmmmmmm??
Wonder why?
Any ideas, MORON???
The latest statistics from the ABC/BBC/…poll completely refute ALL your aruguments, Oh “Bootlicker-in-a-sock”!
Darn, I HATE those things called FACTS!
Ooops, I forogt, Iraqis are not allowed to change their minds now, are they you Democratic Talking point Moron?
Oh yeah, an insightful comment from Michael Totten, a man who’s been there and seen it first hand:
“Opinion polls, including those commissioned by the American command, have long suggested that a majority of Iraqis would like American troops withdrawn, but another lesson to be drawn from Saddam Hussein’s years is that any attempt to measure opinion in Iraq is fatally skewed by intimidation. More often than not, people tell pollsters and reporters what they think is safe, not necessarily what they believe. My own experience, invariably, was that Iraqis I met who felt secure enough to speak with candor had an overwhelming desire to see American troops remain long enough to restore stability.”
It’s called “Taqiyah” fool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya; but since the closest you ever came to Iraq, was by living vicariously thru the wannabe-armchair-hero-fantasy’s of your Leftist hero, William Lind, you wouldn’t have a clue what that was!
Been to Iraq, seen it up close and personal, as well as Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, Bahrain, Oman, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Sharja, Qatar….
Just like you’re other Anally manipulated sock-puppets: “Bootlicker”, “THECENTERISABUNGHOLE”, “Ken(ker)”, “Worm”, etc., you have now, been officially CRUSHED by yours truly!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
I love the smell of Toasted Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Traitor Democratic Nutbags in the morning……..
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Secretary of State Rice Mocks Muslim Cleric Muqtada al-Sadr as a Coward
Sunday, April 20, 2008
BAGHDAD — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice mocked anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr as a coward on Sunday, hours after the radical leader threatened to declare war unless U.S. and Iraqi forces end a military crackdown on his followers.
Rice, in the Iraqi capital to tout security gains and what she calls an emerging political consensus, said al-Sadr is content to issue threats and edicts from the safety of Iran, where he is studying. Al-Sadr heads an unruly militia that was the main target of an Iraqi government assault in the oil-rich city of Basra last month, and his future role as a spoiler is an open question.
“I know he’s sitting in Iran,” Rice said dismissively, when asked about al-Sadr’s latest threat to lift a self-imposed cease-fire with government and U.S. forces. “I guess it’s all-out war for anybody but him,” Rice said. “I guess that’s the message; his followers can go too their deaths and he’s in Iran.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351885,00.html
I’m With Terry.Show the guy who can’t take the truth the door.How long should we suffer this fool?
Struggler: no, let him stay, otherwise, how else would get to see just how pathetic he and his Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Traitor Leftist Nutbag ilk are?
Besides, I get to absolutely CRUSSSSSSHHH him on every post, and it’s a sport a I absolutely enjoy!
While he pathetically quotes bogus polls from 2004, as justification for his Anti-Americanism, I get to put out the truth, and CRUSH him!
You couldn’t ask for a more incompentent, clueless “oppenent”, he makes my own arguments for me every time, and he allows me to get the FACTS out, as opposed to his Democratic Talking Points!
It’s perfect….
I’m so excited by the opportunity to CRUSH this moron, I can’t even spell straight, but you all know what I meant…
Dale:I’ve noticed you seem to enjoy CRUSSSSSSHHING him daily.Ha!He Crushes quite well.I get my share of Moonbat from watching Chris Matthews.I don’t know what it is but I can’t take my eyes off Hardball.It’s kinda like a car wreck.Like Troof.
Wow, it’s almost as if the Anti-American Media doesn’t want you to read this poll, even though its less than a month old!
I never saw any mention of it in any of the so-called Mainstream Media, no wonder “TRUTHMASTERBATES” doesn’t want anyone to see it, and wants to quote a bogus 2004 Poll.
Try accessing thru Totten’s website, and that link only seems to work every other click:
http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/03/what-iraqis-wan.php
this link doesn’t work for me, directly, but give it a try:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1060a1IraqWhereThingsStand.pdf
“You couldn’t ask for a more incompetent ‘opponent’.”HaHaHa!