Apr 20 2008

SurrenderMedia Scrapes To Find Defeat Against Mahdi Army

Published by at 8:56 am under All General Discussions,Iraq,Sadr/Mahdi Army

I posted recently on how the Mahdi Army is being whooped across Iraq, from Baghdad to Basra and posts in between (see here and here). Karl over at Protein Wisdom has caught the LA Times grasping for some news of US-Iraq defeat in all this victory, but having to admit to all the victory anyway:

This time, the grand ayatollahs have declined to aid the incendiary cleric.

Three days into the Basra campaign, Grand Ayatollah Najafi issued a fatwa, or religious opinion or edict, that declared the Iraqi government as the only force in the country with the right to bear arms.

His son, Sheik Ali Najafi, left little doubt that the clergy had backed the Iraqi army operations.

“We see this as a positive improvement. . . . The people want the government to control the streets and the law to be enforced. No other groups,” he said, sitting in his study, furnished with cushions, a laptop and a clock bearing his father’s portrait.

I predicted back on April 7th (2008) that Sistani would side with Maliki and pull the rug out from Sadr. Without support and credibility from Sistani Sadr was exposed. Now in open defiance to the Grand Ayatollah Sadr has become an enemy of the Shiia in Iraq. There will be no large scale civil war because the Shiia will not rise up against Sistani. Sadr is completely isolated. His forces either disband or are destroyed. There is no path to victory left for him with Sistani on Maliki’s side.

Update: I neglected to copy this key passage from the article:

Their stance is a gamble. An influential cleric who is knowledgeable about talks between the Sadr movement and the grand ayatollahs described the situation in bleak terms: The government is weak, and Sadr aides now acknowledge privately that they have lost control of members who are receiving support from Iran.

“There are groups in the Mahdi Army who are kidnapping, killing and stealing. They don’t listen to Muqtada. They are openly operating with Iranian interests,” he said.

The cleric asked that his name not be used because he feared assassination. Everywhere, he saw Iran’s influence. “In the beginning, it was Arab countries playing a negative role. Now after Qaeda has fallen, it is Iran. Iran wants to control Iraq, and change the hawza from Najaf to Qom.”

Which is what I suspected – Sadr has lost control and is now just a charade. Iran is running a proxy war according to the Sadrists and Shiites in Iraq. Wonder how the Surrendercrats on the left will try and deny this reporting.

88 responses so far

88 Responses to “SurrenderMedia Scrapes To Find Defeat Against Mahdi Army”

  1. lurker9876 says:

    Dale, keep crushing him. Problem is that this truther is having a hard time taking the truth. We already recognize the truth but this truther just cannot take it hard2take. Keep up the good work.

    AJ, thanks for keeping us abreast of the great news that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

  2. http://pacificfreepress.com/content/view/2520/1/

    Hey all, check out the website this clown just posted, where he is getting all his “facts” from!

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

    Now we know where his Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi/Anti-Semitic clown gets his “facts” and talking points!

    The website was found by one “Tom Engelhardt”, also founder of the “American Empire Project”!

    Read about this, here:

    “The American Empire Project is a project, offered by Metropolitan Books, that is dedicated to the subject of American militarism. It was developed by Tom Engelhardt and Steve Fraser, and features books by authors such as Noam Chomsky, Peter Irons, and Chalmers Johnson.”

    Hahahahahahahahahah!

    Some illustrious company you hang out there in, “TRUTHMASTERBATES”, no wonder you’re an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Nutbag!

    By the way, even notorious self-loathing Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Nutbag, Noam Chomsky, says that Mearshimer’s and Walt’s book, which you worship, is basically WRONG!

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

    What a ‘toon!

    Come back when you have a little credibility!

  3. Sara says:

    Back on 07 March 2008, it was reported that Sadr was in Tehran, Iran and in a coma from “food poisoning.” I never saw a follow-up, so my questions are, how do we know he recovered? How do we know Sadr is running any of his own show? How do we even know if he survived?

  4. truthhard2take says:

    “McCain can’t come out and say we need to crush the Armed Iraqi Revolution, because that would be an admission that the US has been fighting Iraqis for 5 years and still hasn’t defeated them. So he and the Republican strategists and the retired generals and their Pentagon handlers make up this “al-Qaeda” business, as though people in Baquba would be gunning for Americans if Americans hadn’t invaded their country and turned it upside down.

    It is the US military occupation of Iraq that is producing “al-Qaeda” wannabes, and if it is ended the Iraqis and their neighbors will polish those off tout de suite. Keep the military occupation going, as McCain desires, and you are running an incubator for terrorism against the US and its allies that has already produced hits on Madrid and the London Underground.

    In other words, elect McCain, my friends, and you are summoning the awful genie of another 9/11. I said it. I mean it. I’m not taking it back. That man’s announced policies could well produce a blowback that will lead to the end of democracy in the United States.

    I agree with http://www.juancole.com a wealth of info today. Including
    Dail’s friends getting rich off lying about the war.

  5. truthhard2take says:

    Strata’s too.

  6. truthhard2take says:

    The Mahdi Army leadership says he’s alive and his voice doubtlessly tested by US intelligence verifies it. al Sadr will thrive in Iraq as will other Shia anti-Americans long after the occupier is evicted.

  7. MerlinOS2 says:

    Hey Dale…how about a little trip down Lind lane

    important conservative analyst says US has lost Iraq and best exit
    strategy is allow alSadr to unite country

    Left by thecentercannothold on June 8th, 2007

    By the way, William Lind, while being an innovative strategic thinker (came up with the theory of 4th Generation Warfare), has been against the war from the start. The way you cited him, you make it sound as if he finally gave up on the war. Another conservative supporter has dropped away. He’s a Buchananite. He’s a paleoconservative. He never supported the war, and it’s disingenuous to state his opposition the way you did. He’s never believed in the power of freedom to change a country. You citing Lind would be like me citing Christopher Hitchens and saying that “yet another leftist has declared that victory in Iraq is essential and possible”. If you said “Conservative antiwar commentator William Lind once again says US has lost in Iraq, and the best exit strategy is to allow Sadr to unite the country”, that would be an accurate characterization of Lind’s point of view in light of his history of opposition to the war from the very beginning, but you didn’t do that. You made it sound like Bill Kristol or someone had given up on the war.

    Left by colin on June 8th, 2007

    Dale

    You are a contemptible moron. Michael Scheuer is and has been a conservative realist-not a leftist- who is not beholden as you are to the fifth column of Zionist neocons posing as conservatives who fool dupes like you to shed their children’s blood for Ashkenazi racist endeavours.

    Yor feel comfortable in the “middle” of the neocon quagmire
    beleiving in traitors and fools who assured you the war would be over in weeks in 2003, with Iraq’s new pro-American government
    stabilized and war expenses paid off by oil proceeds by 2004!

    Yes, Feith, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Cheney said all of it.

    And the neocon blogs who trusted them and still defend them?
    You find their moronic adherence to Bush policy more
    agreeable than the Juan Coles of the Left and Buchanan’s
    amconmag.com.—-and Linds of the right who have been
    proven correct long since in their pre-war predictions of
    failure.

    Who’s the idiot? Not soothsayer, but a superannuated
    yahoo on the road to absolute defeat in the Mideast.

    Left by thecentercannothold on June 10th, 2007

    NOTE this was a comment thread for the above quote that also had sooth in the mix

    William Lind has something for Dale of Atlanta.

    Left by thecentercannothold on June 13th, 2007

    Another comment from a thread with tcch and sooth (in fact only them)

  8. of course you “pay no attention” to what the majority wants, and we may have to put hundreds of thousands on the streets to help crush your kind again,…..

    Wow, sounds like a George Carlin/Jame Fonda/John Kerry-wannabee type, wishing desperately to go back to the times of Haight-Ashbury, the Summer of Love, LSD and Mary Jane, when they ruled the streets thru fear and intimidation, the Weather Underground bombings, etc.

    No wonder you’re in the tank for Obama-the-covert-Muslim who hangs out with 60’s WU bombers and Palestinian terrorists!

    And you accuse me of warmongering and ignoring the “majority”.

    Your entire Leftist Democratic agenda is based upon brainwashing generations of American students in elementary, high school and college with the Leftwing Academia, utilizing Anti-American Judges from the bench to institute your leftwing agendas you cannot get enacted thru a fair and free Democratic process, suppression of free speech and more importantly free thought, your PC-crusades designed to intimidate and silence any signs of dissent, and the forcing of your Paedophilic and “alternative lifestyle” crap down people’s throats, in an effort to destroy every last vestiage of the American family, so you can finally join the Leftist Nutbags in Europe and the Islamic world in your complete immersion into Paedophila-heaven!

  9. Thanks Merlin, I know you have all that stuff at hand, “TRUTHMASTERBATES” doesn’t stand a chance!

    Now, he’s quote, JUAN COLE!

    It was only a matter of time!

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

    Juan Cole, dedicated Anti-American, Pro-Jihadi, in the tank for As Sadr and the Shiite Ayatollahs in Iran, for DECADES!

    The same Juan Cole who is a convert to the Bahai’i “religion”, really a “cult” but that’s for a later time; Juan Cole who has been an apologist for every Shiite Ayatollah and Shiite leader and vehement Leftist AntiSemitic Anti-American for most of his adult life.

    In the tank for the Shiites, because he feels if he makes excuses and becomes the mouthpiece for the Ithna Asheri Usuli Jamkaranis such as Ahmadinejad, he’ll somehow keep his fellow Bahai’s from being persecuted by the Ayatollahs!

    Is THAT the “Juan Cole” you’re now quoting, Nutbag?

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

    PS: “THECENTERISABUNGHOLE” and “Bootlicker” were also Juan Cole “fans” as well!

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

  10. Merlin, I think you took him from “toast” to Burnt Crisp!!

    Nicely done!

  11. Whippet1 says:

    Truthy,

    “and we may have to put hundreds of thousands on the streets to help crush your kind again”

    Since so many of your first round of little jihadi’s have either run for the hills or already met their 72 virgins…I guess you will have to find some more…There’s plenty of young children out there that your terrorist buddies can exploit to martyr themselves for something they will never have the maturity to understand or choose…

    You see, it’s the amazing thing about America…we don’t have to brainwash people that they must kill (martyr) themselves in order to fight a battle of importance. In America there are hundreds of thousands of brave men and women who will join up for nothing more than the honor of protecting men, women and children that they have never even met before let alone the American citizenry. No false promises of 72 virgins awaiting them after they blow up a hospital full of the sick or a school full of children. Instead, for nothing other than honor they will rebuild that hospital and tend to the sick that your kind destroyed. They will rebuild the school and protect the children that your kind use as if they are simply useless pawns in a game.

    You see…as it has always been and always will be…Good will always win out over evil.

  12. 75 says:

    Truthy needs to read this one from VDH…
    in fact, I highly recommend it for everyone in this forum.

    http://www.amazon.com/Carnage-Culture-Landmark-Battles-Western/dp/0385720386/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208743618&sr=1-1

  13. truthhard2take says:

    You don’t research very well, Dailing. This makes at least the third time I’ve promoted the candidacy of Ralph Nader, although I reserve the right to opt for another third party candidate if
    one more viable appears on the scene. And one reason would be Obama’s criticism of Carter’s dialogue with Hamas, contrasted with Nader’s praise of it.

  14. truthhard2take says:

    Bahai is not a cult, but if it is, it’s a far less dangerous one than the racist “Settler Zionist” form of Judaism which controls the American political process.

  15. 75 says:

    Truthy, you’ve also pumped for Dennis Kucinich but that aside, telling us 3 times you’re for Nader just reminds us 3 times that you are a dumbass. Keep up the reminders.

  16. truthhard2take says:

    Whipped

    Such ignorance displayed, this time a blindness to the fact
    about a third of Palestinians are Christians–far more than the
    percentage of Jewish converts by the way.

  17. truthhard2take says:

    By the way, did your version of good triumph over evil at the culmination of the Vietnam War? Hmmmm?

  18. truthhard2take says:

    Dail

    It’s good you’re on the MIC payroll; you’re not a good researcher, loser. You didn’t notice Merlin completely missed the fact I cited Lind several times as right on the war from the get-go. Which means Merlin-in-need-of-a-wand, he opposed it from the start.
    As did all traditional conservatives.

  19. Whippet1 says:

    Truthy,

    “Such ignorance displayed, this time a blindness to the fact
    about a third of Palestinians are Christians–far more than the
    percentage of Jewish converts by the way.”

    Left by truthhard2take on April 20th, 2008

    I could care less what their religion is…you are the one who is the religious bigot, not me. And furthermore, I could care less how many Jewish converts there are because I, unlike you, have no problem with Judaism. Learn how to read…

  20. Whippet1 says:

    Just a little Palestinian loooove for their children…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ww0uNi1wo