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		<title>By: 75</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-328303</link>
		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Whippet. I appreciate that you are firmly in my corner but come up for air occasionally!

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Whippet. I appreciate that you are firmly in my corner but come up for air occasionally!</p>
<p> <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-328268</link>
		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reason I keep you around is you prove my point and make me look good in comparison.&quot;   

Sure, if calling people names and labeling them as &quot;true&quot;, &quot;pure&quot; or right-wing conservatives when you have no idea if they are or not just because they happen to disagree with you on an issue or two makes you look good in comparison then I guess you would think you look pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reason I keep you around is you prove my point and make me look good in comparison.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Sure, if calling people names and labeling them as &#8220;true&#8221;, &#8220;pure&#8221; or right-wing conservatives when you have no idea if they are or not just because they happen to disagree with you on an issue or two makes you look good in comparison then I guess you would think you look pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-328020</link>
		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, your decision not to  boot me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, your decision not to  boot me.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327999</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>75,

What are you talking about now 75?  If you think I &#039;came to my sense&#039; it simply means you deluded yourself again and misunderstood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>75,</p>
<p>What are you talking about now 75?  If you think I &#8216;came to my sense&#8217; it simply means you deluded yourself again and misunderstood.</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327994</link>
		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, it&#039;s at least nice to see you&#039;ve come to your senses on that issue, anyway. Baby steps, I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, it&#8217;s at least nice to see you&#8217;ve come to your senses on that issue, anyway. Baby steps, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327909</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! 75 and Whippet1,

The reason I keep you around is you prove my point and make me look good in comparison.

trust me, I would no more boot you than Soothie - you all serve a purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! 75 and Whippet1,</p>
<p>The reason I keep you around is you prove my point and make me look good in comparison.</p>
<p>trust me, I would no more boot you than Soothie &#8211; you all serve a purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327842</link>
		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, I left insulting out of my previous list of conservative disagreement definitions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, I left insulting out of my previous list of conservative disagreement definitions!</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
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		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whip, oh I get it.

I can&#039;t get a straight answer out of either of them. AJ will probably take that as an insult but it sounds like he&#039;s ready to boot me anyway.
Forgive me but just how bad should a lemming feel if he&#039;s booted out of the  line to the cliff?
;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whip, oh I get it.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t get a straight answer out of either of them. AJ will probably take that as an insult but it sounds like he&#8217;s ready to boot me anyway.<br />
Forgive me but just how bad should a lemming feel if he&#8217;s booted out of the  line to the cliff?<br />
 <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aj,

&quot;I mean I did try the â€œplease donâ€™t do this, we can talk, we can find a 
solutionâ€ before the debacle.&quot;  Oh, really...you&#039;ve been oh so kind in response to their over-the-top rhetoric haven&#039;t you?  Yeah, right.

And I&#039;m also getting pummeled in the voting booth and I&#039;m not far right - nor are or were any of my candidates but since I have disagreed with you on this issue now I am far right.  Keep adding all of us conservatives to that far-right label you like to throw out and maybe you&#039;ll find the numbers to justify your argument. 

Where is that information in the immigration bill again?  The one that protects the proposed new laws from interpretation by the courts?

75,

For conservatives:
Disagreement = purity war, ranting, raving, fringe, vanquishing the opposition, crass, toilet of extremism, etc., etc.

For independents:
Disagreement = fighting the BETTER fight, being more observant, being objective, compromising, pointing out the obvious, etc., etc.

Get it 75?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aj,</p>
<p>&#8220;I mean I did try the â€œplease donâ€™t do this, we can talk, we can find a<br />
solutionâ€ before the debacle.&#8221;  Oh, really&#8230;you&#8217;ve been oh so kind in response to their over-the-top rhetoric haven&#8217;t you?  Yeah, right.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m also getting pummeled in the voting booth and I&#8217;m not far right &#8211; nor are or were any of my candidates but since I have disagreed with you on this issue now I am far right.  Keep adding all of us conservatives to that far-right label you like to throw out and maybe you&#8217;ll find the numbers to justify your argument. </p>
<p>Where is that information in the immigration bill again?  The one that protects the proposed new laws from interpretation by the courts?</p>
<p>75,</p>
<p>For conservatives:<br />
Disagreement = purity war, ranting, raving, fringe, vanquishing the opposition, crass, toilet of extremism, etc., etc.</p>
<p>For independents:<br />
Disagreement = fighting the BETTER fight, being more observant, being objective, compromising, pointing out the obvious, etc., etc.</p>
<p>Get it 75?</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327775</link>
		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, I see you are sensitive and defensive again today...but to clarify...I use the  term mods to mean everyone who&#039;s left of conservative but not a leftist Democrat. Whether they are independents, centrists, moderates, whatever...it isn&#039;t meant  as an  insult. Clearly you took it as one, though. What do you suppose that means?

But that aside, I noticed you  didn&#039;t answer any of my questions. They were not rhetorical insults, AJ. So again, I will  ask.

First, is it your opinion that the far right has alienated American voters because  of their passion or their  conservative message in general? This is significant because you&#039;ve claimed to be an independent conservative but to reject all conservatives because you feel they the insult you (or the American voter), tells us a lot about you and the American voter.

Secondly, are you asking us to reject these brilliant writers based solely on your opinion of this election because of their passion or for their actual conservative knowledge vis-a-vis yours and Terryes? Again, what makes more sense to  you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, I see you are sensitive and defensive again today&#8230;but to clarify&#8230;I use the  term mods to mean everyone who&#8217;s left of conservative but not a leftist Democrat. Whether they are independents, centrists, moderates, whatever&#8230;it isn&#8217;t meant  as an  insult. Clearly you took it as one, though. What do you suppose that means?</p>
<p>But that aside, I noticed you  didn&#8217;t answer any of my questions. They were not rhetorical insults, AJ. So again, I will  ask.</p>
<p>First, is it your opinion that the far right has alienated American voters because  of their passion or their  conservative message in general? This is significant because you&#8217;ve claimed to be an independent conservative but to reject all conservatives because you feel they the insult you (or the American voter), tells us a lot about you and the American voter.</p>
<p>Secondly, are you asking us to reject these brilliant writers based solely on your opinion of this election because of their passion or for their actual conservative knowledge vis-a-vis yours and Terryes? Again, what makes more sense to  you?</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-5#comment-327773</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>75,

First off, stop with the &#039;mods&#039;.  I am an independent.  If you think I am moderate just keep going kid and you will see how good moderate feels.  

Second, I only claim to see what is happening in the voting booths, which is the far right getting pummeled for being crass, and being more crass in response.  They&#039;re doing a great job of circling down the toilet of extremism.

 3rd, we only need to out think folks like you to fight the better fight. and gain the power to enact (while the far right has the power to pout).

Hmmm - I&#039;m good with this.  Especially since it has been working as the far right implodes in a fit of anger and frustration.

BTW - do you think I would poke the far right to explode if I was thinking there would be reason to work together in the end of all this?  I mean I did try the &quot;please don&#039;t do this, we can talk, we can find a solution&quot; before the debacle.  But if I felt that the best way to neuter the far right was to make sure they kept showing their true colors, maybe I would stop trying to compromise and start trying to win the day....

Did that ever occur to you folks, that us lowly impure conservatives would actually engage in the fight the far right started with every intent of vanquishing the opposition?  

Geez, if you folks call for a purity war, maybe you should have thought about the fact (1) the centrist would certainly take up the challenge and (2) could win.  food for thought as you contemplate your next lame attempt to insult the only voting block who can give you the far right the support it needs to be part of (not in charge of) a conservative majority housed inside a GOP caucus.

LOL!  John McCain is a great example of the far right showing everyone up.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>75,</p>
<p>First off, stop with the &#8216;mods&#8217;.  I am an independent.  If you think I am moderate just keep going kid and you will see how good moderate feels.  </p>
<p>Second, I only claim to see what is happening in the voting booths, which is the far right getting pummeled for being crass, and being more crass in response.  They&#8217;re doing a great job of circling down the toilet of extremism.</p>
<p> 3rd, we only need to out think folks like you to fight the better fight. and gain the power to enact (while the far right has the power to pout).</p>
<p>Hmmm &#8211; I&#8217;m good with this.  Especially since it has been working as the far right implodes in a fit of anger and frustration.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; do you think I would poke the far right to explode if I was thinking there would be reason to work together in the end of all this?  I mean I did try the &#8220;please don&#8217;t do this, we can talk, we can find a solution&#8221; before the debacle.  But if I felt that the best way to neuter the far right was to make sure they kept showing their true colors, maybe I would stop trying to compromise and start trying to win the day&#8230;.</p>
<p>Did that ever occur to you folks, that us lowly impure conservatives would actually engage in the fight the far right started with every intent of vanquishing the opposition?  </p>
<p>Geez, if you folks call for a purity war, maybe you should have thought about the fact (1) the centrist would certainly take up the challenge and (2) could win.  food for thought as you contemplate your next lame attempt to insult the only voting block who can give you the far right the support it needs to be part of (not in charge of) a conservative majority housed inside a GOP caucus.</p>
<p>LOL!  John McCain is a great example of the far right showing everyone up&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
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		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me submit this little exercise to show the absurdity of AJ&#039;s and Terrye&#039;s &#039;centrist&#039; points.

We are being asked to believe AJ and Terrye (AJ, of course, has a leg up of the two) or to believe some of the brightest conservative  minds of our  time, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, William Buckley, Brent Bozell, Thomas Sowell, Charles Krauthammer, Walter Williams, and on, and on, and on infinum. 

C&#039;mon mods...wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me submit this little exercise to show the absurdity of AJ&#8217;s and Terrye&#8217;s &#8216;centrist&#8217; points.</p>
<p>We are being asked to believe AJ and Terrye (AJ, of course, has a leg up of the two) or to believe some of the brightest conservative  minds of our  time, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, William Buckley, Brent Bozell, Thomas Sowell, Charles Krauthammer, Walter Williams, and on, and on, and on infinum. </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon mods&#8230;wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Whippet1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whippet1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ,

I&#039;m a right-winger and a hypochondriac now!!!  People who know me personally would be laughing their butts off right now!  Name- call away it just proves the point I&#039;ve been tring to make.  In politics it&#039;s all the same but each side thinks they&#039;re different.

And Terrye,
I thought this was America...Excuse anyone who disagrees with you or  Lindsey Graham, McCain, etc, etc.  So what does that make you when you disagree with someone...oh yeah, I forgot, you&#039;re allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a right-winger and a hypochondriac now!!!  People who know me personally would be laughing their butts off right now!  Name- call away it just proves the point I&#8217;ve been tring to make.  In politics it&#8217;s all the same but each side thinks they&#8217;re different.</p>
<p>And Terrye,<br />
I thought this was America&#8230;Excuse anyone who disagrees with you or  Lindsey Graham, McCain, etc, etc.  So what does that make you when you disagree with someone&#8230;oh yeah, I forgot, you&#8217;re allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: 75</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5424/comment-page-4#comment-327768</link>
		<dc:creator>75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geesh...you can&#039;t shut down your computer for even one evening. I see the hounds have been released. 

It takes a special kind of stubbornness and denial to blame conservatives for a centrist candidate. What AJ and Terrye are admitting to here, is that they have been so put off by the delivery of the  conservative message that THEY have moved to the center. Again, they are shooting the messenger for the message. So it comes down to one of two things, either they are naive and are rejecting conservatism because it&#039;s delivered harshly or they aren&#039;t on board with the idealogy anyway. I assume they are not on board with conservatism. To say the other would mean they would have to admit to being duped into judging the  messenger rather than  the message. AJ, Terrye? What you say? Is it the messengers or the  message?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geesh&#8230;you can&#8217;t shut down your computer for even one evening. I see the hounds have been released. </p>
<p>It takes a special kind of stubbornness and denial to blame conservatives for a centrist candidate. What AJ and Terrye are admitting to here, is that they have been so put off by the delivery of the  conservative message that THEY have moved to the center. Again, they are shooting the messenger for the message. So it comes down to one of two things, either they are naive and are rejecting conservatism because it&#8217;s delivered harshly or they aren&#8217;t on board with the idealogy anyway. I assume they are not on board with conservatism. To say the other would mean they would have to admit to being duped into judging the  messenger rather than  the message. AJ, Terrye? What you say? Is it the messengers or the  message?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whippet:

Why are you asking me if I am happy? I am not Diane Feinstein.

And Whippet if you think there are not conservatives threatening to sit and home and let Obama win then you are not listening to these people rant and rave.

You know what the problem is? This morning over at powerline the first post is another one bitching about Lindsay Graham. Not Feinstein or any other Democrat. Conservatives spend too much time attacking other Republicans and too little time going after their real opponents.

And btw, once Levin and his kind help Obama get elected, he will put in whatever kind of amnesty bill he wants and there will be nothing conservatives can do about it.

After all, they will have purged their party of so many people there won&#039;t be enough votes left for a filibuster.

That kind of makes me wonder who the RINOs really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whippet:</p>
<p>Why are you asking me if I am happy? I am not Diane Feinstein.</p>
<p>And Whippet if you think there are not conservatives threatening to sit and home and let Obama win then you are not listening to these people rant and rave.</p>
<p>You know what the problem is? This morning over at powerline the first post is another one bitching about Lindsay Graham. Not Feinstein or any other Democrat. Conservatives spend too much time attacking other Republicans and too little time going after their real opponents.</p>
<p>And btw, once Levin and his kind help Obama get elected, he will put in whatever kind of amnesty bill he wants and there will be nothing conservatives can do about it.</p>
<p>After all, they will have purged their party of so many people there won&#8217;t be enough votes left for a filibuster.</p>
<p>That kind of makes me wonder who the RINOs really are.</p>
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