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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obidiot Obama - Part III, Did Chicago Sun Times Know Of &#8220;Whitey&#8221; Video?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obidiot Obama - Part III, Did Chicago Sun Times Know Of &#8220;Whitey&#8221; Video?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In Part I of this series on how not to run a Presidential campaign (which shows how a candidate is not ready to be President I might add) I noted the plan to openly address some of the more sensational rumors about Obama and his wife only gave these rumors oxygen. Â Especially since some, like the &#8220;whitey&#8221; video rumor concerning Michelle were dying off due to lack of substantiation. Â I also noted the first rule of challenging rumors, don&#8217;t feed the frenzy by drawing more questions because more details came out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In Part I of this series on how not to run a Presidential campaign (which shows how a candidate is not ready to be President I might add) I noted the plan to openly address some of the more sensational rumors about Obama and his wife only gave these rumors oxygen. Â Especially since some, like the &#8220;whitey&#8221; video rumor concerning Michelle were dying off due to lack of substantiation. Â I also noted the first rule of challenging rumors, don&#8217;t feed the frenzy by drawing more questions because more details came out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obidiot Obama - Part II</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obidiot Obama - Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This morning I posted on the idiotic move by the Obama campaign to re-open the rumor about Michelle Obama by posting some &#8216;truths&#8217; about the &#8217;smear&#8217; coming from Hillary supporter Larry Johnson. Â In that post I noted all the Obamabots were doing was feeding the rumor mill by giving it credibility and oxygen. Â And for a rumor that has no reason to show up again until the convention at the earliest, it seemed really stupid to fan the flames now that it had just died down. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This morning I posted on the idiotic move by the Obama campaign to re-open the rumor about Michelle Obama by posting some &#8216;truths&#8217; about the &#8217;smear&#8217; coming from Hillary supporter Larry Johnson. Â In that post I noted all the Obamabots were doing was feeding the rumor mill by giving it credibility and oxygen. Â And for a rumor that has no reason to show up again until the convention at the earliest, it seemed really stupid to fan the flames now that it had just died down. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soothie,
So, you are living off the contributions of your ancestors and undermining the sacrifices of this generation. 

The question is not if the War was worth it. But if you are worth their sacrfifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soothie,<br />
So, you are living off the contributions of your ancestors and undermining the sacrifices of this generation. </p>
<p>The question is not if the War was worth it. But if you are worth their sacrfifice.</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5532/comment-page-1#comment-339747</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Obama&#039;s site he controls what is posted as a smear and what is called the truth.

The reader can&#039;t ask the question or comment.

I don&#039;t think Senator Obama listens when people try to tell him anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Obama&#8217;s site he controls what is posted as a smear and what is called the truth.</p>
<p>The reader can&#8217;t ask the question or comment.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Senator Obama listens when people try to tell him anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Soothsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the military is no doubt reluctant to turn over will be the records of the CIA torture sessions and the total lack of evidence behind the vast majority of the detentions.

As for killing a bunch of Americans, every year we Americans kill 36,000 of our fellows on the highway; we kill 30,000 of our countrymen with handguns; we kill 120,000 citizens thru medical mistakes that are easily preventable, yet we don&#039;t want to lower speed limits, we don&#039;t want to control hand guns, and we don&#039;t want to encourage med mal litigation that tries to prevent easily avoidable deaths.

However, some ignorant dupes of Islam are successful in a one time event and all you &lt;i&gt;conservatives&lt;/i&gt; wet your panties and want to throw out the Constitution so that Big Brother can protect you.

  Screw that!! I am not afraid of a bunch of loser terrorists, and I&#039;m certainly not willing to give up my Constitutional rights so that some nanny culture incompetents like TANG Bush and 5Dferment Cheney can protect me.

Grow some spine, you sissies. Al-Qaeda comes to my town and I blow their friggin&#039; heads off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the military is no doubt reluctant to turn over will be the records of the CIA torture sessions and the total lack of evidence behind the vast majority of the detentions.</p>
<p>As for killing a bunch of Americans, every year we Americans kill 36,000 of our fellows on the highway; we kill 30,000 of our countrymen with handguns; we kill 120,000 citizens thru medical mistakes that are easily preventable, yet we don&#8217;t want to lower speed limits, we don&#8217;t want to control hand guns, and we don&#8217;t want to encourage med mal litigation that tries to prevent easily avoidable deaths.</p>
<p>However, some ignorant dupes of Islam are successful in a one time event and all you <i>conservatives</i> wet your panties and want to throw out the Constitution so that Big Brother can protect you.</p>
<p>  Screw that!! I am not afraid of a bunch of loser terrorists, and I&#8217;m certainly not willing to give up my Constitutional rights so that some nanny culture incompetents like TANG Bush and 5Dferment Cheney can protect me.</p>
<p>Grow some spine, you sissies. Al-Qaeda comes to my town and I blow their friggin&#8217; heads off.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting and slightly different take at &lt;a href=&quot;http://proteinwisdom.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Protein Wisdom&lt;/a&gt; by Karl:

Like most with an interest in the issue, I am just beginning to skim the Supreme Courtâ€™s opinions on the habeas corpus rights of unlawful combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay (the case getting the buzz) and US citizens detained in Iraq (which is not getting much buzz at all).

Michelle Malkin has already provided a good round up of early reactions, but folks including Ed Morrissey may be overstating things by suggesting that the â€œSupreme Court has basically ruled that the Constitution applies worldwide rather than just to the US and its residents.â€  The ruling does not directly address situations outside Gitmo, but the ruling seems to turn on the prior opinions of the Justices in Rasul v. Bush, 542 U.S. 466 (2004), that Gitmo is within â€œthe territorial jurisdictionâ€ of the United States â€” as explained briefly by Orin Kerr.  Even more briefly, it has to do with the exact extent and nature of the jurisdiction or dominion exercised by the US over a territory.

Similar reasoning seems to be at work in the other habeas case decided today, involving US citizens detained in Iraq.  The Court decided unanimously that US citizens held by the US military in Iraq have a right to file habeas cases, but federal courts do not have the authority to bar their transfer to Iraqi authorites for prosecution under Iraqi laws.  The first half of that rests on the plain language of the habeas statute, which applies to persons held â€œin custody under or by color of the authority of the United States.â€  (The Gitmo case involved the Detainee Treatment Act.)  It also appears to rely in part on the fact that the petitioners are US citizens.  The second half relies on the sovereign authority of the Iraqi government within its territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting and slightly different take at <a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/" rel="nofollow">Protein Wisdom</a> by Karl:</p>
<p>Like most with an interest in the issue, I am just beginning to skim the Supreme Courtâ€™s opinions on the habeas corpus rights of unlawful combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay (the case getting the buzz) and US citizens detained in Iraq (which is not getting much buzz at all).</p>
<p>Michelle Malkin has already provided a good round up of early reactions, but folks including Ed Morrissey may be overstating things by suggesting that the â€œSupreme Court has basically ruled that the Constitution applies worldwide rather than just to the US and its residents.â€  The ruling does not directly address situations outside Gitmo, but the ruling seems to turn on the prior opinions of the Justices in Rasul v. Bush, 542 U.S. 466 (2004), that Gitmo is within â€œthe territorial jurisdictionâ€ of the United States â€” as explained briefly by Orin Kerr.  Even more briefly, it has to do with the exact extent and nature of the jurisdiction or dominion exercised by the US over a territory.</p>
<p>Similar reasoning seems to be at work in the other habeas case decided today, involving US citizens detained in Iraq.  The Court decided unanimously that US citizens held by the US military in Iraq have a right to file habeas cases, but federal courts do not have the authority to bar their transfer to Iraqi authorites for prosecution under Iraqi laws.  The first half of that rests on the plain language of the habeas statute, which applies to persons held â€œin custody under or by color of the authority of the United States.â€  (The Gitmo case involved the Detainee Treatment Act.)  It also appears to rely in part on the fact that the petitioners are US citizens.  The second half relies on the sovereign authority of the Iraqi government within its territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Soothie, you better hope these guys have seen the light. I doubt if the military is going to give up all kinds of classified information to try them in civil courts. Many of them will be returned to their countries. Of course many of them will be shot as soon as they get there, but that&#039;s the breaks.

And if these guys have not seen the light and they kill a bunch of Americans, someone will get the blame and it won&#039;t be Bush. 

But I forget, Soothie likes to see dead people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Soothie, you better hope these guys have seen the light. I doubt if the military is going to give up all kinds of classified information to try them in civil courts. Many of them will be returned to their countries. Of course many of them will be shot as soon as they get there, but that&#8217;s the breaks.</p>
<p>And if these guys have not seen the light and they kill a bunch of Americans, someone will get the blame and it won&#8217;t be Bush. </p>
<p>But I forget, Soothie likes to see dead people.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In truth I think this was expected by many people. In fact I think that is why McCain supported sending these men to a military prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In truth I think this was expected by many people. In fact I think that is why McCain supported sending these men to a military prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Soothsayer</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5532/comment-page-1#comment-339608</link>
		<dc:creator>Soothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, so much windage, so little useful information.  As for hating this country, you would have no idea how stupid that remark is. 

 My ancestor Deodatus Curtis arrived here in the 1600&#039;s.  One of my ancestors was Israel Putnam, who said: &quot;Don&#039;t fire until you see the whites of their eyes.&quot;  Another ancestor was Gen. Rufus Putnam, whose Ohio Company founded the first permanent settlement in Ohio at Marietta.

And, yes, you correctly thought the Bush Adminsitratiion is an outlaw regime.  When, in  the due course of time, the folks who ordered illegal warrantless wiretapping of US citizens, and who allowed criminal torture of detainees are brought to justice, we will all be able to see the evidence of their many crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, so much windage, so little useful information.  As for hating this country, you would have no idea how stupid that remark is. </p>
<p> My ancestor Deodatus Curtis arrived here in the 1600&#8242;s.  One of my ancestors was Israel Putnam, who said: &#8220;Don&#8217;t fire until you see the whites of their eyes.&#8221;  Another ancestor was Gen. Rufus Putnam, whose Ohio Company founded the first permanent settlement in Ohio at Marietta.</p>
<p>And, yes, you correctly thought the Bush Adminsitratiion is an outlaw regime.  When, in  the due course of time, the folks who ordered illegal warrantless wiretapping of US citizens, and who allowed criminal torture of detainees are brought to justice, we will all be able to see the evidence of their many crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scalia on the above noted decision:

    Today the Court warps our Constitution in a way that goes beyond the narrow issue of the reach of the Suspension Clause, invoking judicially brainstormed separation-of-powers principles to establish a manipulable â€œfunctionalâ€ test for the extraterritorial reach of habeas corpus (and, no doubt, for the extraterritorial reach of other Constitutional protections as well). It blatantly misdescribes [sic] important precedents, most conspicuously Justice Jacksonâ€™s opinion for the Court in Johnson v. Eisentrager. It breaks a chain of precedent as old as the common law that prohibits judicial inquiry into detentions of aliens abroad absent statutory authorization. And, most tragically, it sets our military commanders the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards this Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner.

    The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scalia on the above noted decision:</p>
<p>    Today the Court warps our Constitution in a way that goes beyond the narrow issue of the reach of the Suspension Clause, invoking judicially brainstormed separation-of-powers principles to establish a manipulable â€œfunctionalâ€ test for the extraterritorial reach of habeas corpus (and, no doubt, for the extraterritorial reach of other Constitutional protections as well). It blatantly misdescribes [sic] important precedents, most conspicuously Justice Jacksonâ€™s opinion for the Court in Johnson v. Eisentrager. It breaks a chain of precedent as old as the common law that prohibits judicial inquiry into detentions of aliens abroad absent statutory authorization. And, most tragically, it sets our military commanders the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards this Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner.</p>
<p>    The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is Soothie it sounds just like something Michelle Obama would say. I doubt that it happened, but it is believable.

As for your other point, I am sure you are happy to know that terrorists have a better chance at being shot on sight now, after all that is legal. I am also sure you are thrilled at the notion that some of these guys might get out and kill some people. I know how you love to see dead people.

BTW, I have used some of your ravings as an example of what the typical Obamabot is like. I talk about how much you hate this country and its military. I talk about how you believe any anti American propaganda that comes along. After seeing some of your posts I have convinced some moderate Democrats to vote for McCain. Keep up the good work, the GOP can use all the help it can get.

BTW, I thought the Bush administration was an outlaw regime that had  refused to allow the government to function as a republic. And yet, not only did the detainees get their day in court, they got several days in court. In fact they may get so many days in court that they will die of old age before all the appeals run out. 

So it seems that Bush is not a dictator after all. How about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is Soothie it sounds just like something Michelle Obama would say. I doubt that it happened, but it is believable.</p>
<p>As for your other point, I am sure you are happy to know that terrorists have a better chance at being shot on sight now, after all that is legal. I am also sure you are thrilled at the notion that some of these guys might get out and kill some people. I know how you love to see dead people.</p>
<p>BTW, I have used some of your ravings as an example of what the typical Obamabot is like. I talk about how much you hate this country and its military. I talk about how you believe any anti American propaganda that comes along. After seeing some of your posts I have convinced some moderate Democrats to vote for McCain. Keep up the good work, the GOP can use all the help it can get.</p>
<p>BTW, I thought the Bush administration was an outlaw regime that had  refused to allow the government to function as a republic. And yet, not only did the detainees get their day in court, they got several days in court. In fact they may get so many days in court that they will die of old age before all the appeals run out. </p>
<p>So it seems that Bush is not a dictator after all. How about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Soothsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In point of fact, no human being with even marginal powers of rational thought believed the Whitey Video smear, and it doesn&#039;t get any more convincing no matter how often the whacked-right blogosphere repeats it.

The underlying reality is that every day since Hillary dropped out and called upon her supporters to rally behind Barack Obama, Obama&#039;s position in the General Election has improved. All available metrics indicate that Obama support is growing, and that Grumpy McSameâ„¢ is mired in the muck of the Elephant&#039;s Graveyard, aka George McBush&#039;s Third Termâ„¢.

McCain, who has already admitted he knows nothing about economics and is computer illiterate, stumbles on tellling America that bringing troops home from 12,000 miles away is &lt;i&gt;not too important&lt;/i&gt; and remaining unable to stay on point or on topic in his rambling stump appearances before paltry numbers of disinterested onlookers.

Oh,  did I mention McSame can&#039;t even get Republican elected officals to support his candidacy???:

At least 14 Republican members of Congress have refused to endorse or publicly support Sen. John McCain for president, and more than a dozen others declined to answer whether they back the Arizona senator.


Many of the recalcitrant GOP members declined to detail their reasons for withholding support, but Rep. John Peterson (R-Pa.) expressed major concerns about McCainâ€™s energy policies and Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) cited the Iraq war.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BREAKING!!!  Supreme Court slaps Bush Admisnitration upside the head and sez:  &lt;i&gt;It&#039;s the Constitution, you morons:&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that foreign terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay have rights under the Constitution to challenge their detention in U.S. civilian courts. 

In its third rebuke of the Bush administration&#039;s treatment of prisoners, the court ruled 5-4 that the government is violating the rights of prisoners being held indefinitely and without charges at the U.S. naval base in Cuba. 

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the court, said, &lt;b&gt;&quot;The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In point of fact, no human being with even marginal powers of rational thought believed the Whitey Video smear, and it doesn&#8217;t get any more convincing no matter how often the whacked-right blogosphere repeats it.</p>
<p>The underlying reality is that every day since Hillary dropped out and called upon her supporters to rally behind Barack Obama, Obama&#8217;s position in the General Election has improved. All available metrics indicate that Obama support is growing, and that Grumpy McSameâ„¢ is mired in the muck of the Elephant&#8217;s Graveyard, aka George McBush&#8217;s Third Termâ„¢.</p>
<p>McCain, who has already admitted he knows nothing about economics and is computer illiterate, stumbles on tellling America that bringing troops home from 12,000 miles away is <i>not too important</i> and remaining unable to stay on point or on topic in his rambling stump appearances before paltry numbers of disinterested onlookers.</p>
<p>Oh,  did I mention McSame can&#8217;t even get Republican elected officals to support his candidacy???:</p>
<p>At least 14 Republican members of Congress have refused to endorse or publicly support Sen. John McCain for president, and more than a dozen others declined to answer whether they back the Arizona senator.</p>
<p>Many of the recalcitrant GOP members declined to detail their reasons for withholding support, but Rep. John Peterson (R-Pa.) expressed major concerns about McCainâ€™s energy policies and Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) cited the Iraq war.</p>
<p>BREAKING!!!  Supreme Court slaps Bush Admisnitration upside the head and sez:  <i>It&#8217;s the Constitution, you morons:</i></p>
<blockquote><p>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that foreign terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay have rights under the Constitution to challenge their detention in U.S. civilian courts. </p>
<p>In its third rebuke of the Bush administration&#8217;s treatment of prisoners, the court ruled 5-4 that the government is violating the rights of prisoners being held indefinitely and without charges at the U.S. naval base in Cuba. </p>
<p>Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the court, said, <b>&#8220;The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times.&#8221;</b> </p></blockquote>
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