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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obama&#8217;s Going To Hurt Himself With All These Flip Flops!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obama&#8217;s Going To Hurt Himself With All These Flip Flops!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pulling out of Iraq, without any conditions and as quickly as possible. (Got him on video here in the last debate) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5576/comment-page-1#comment-343256</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stevevvs: Did the Founders ever imagine that an enemy from the other side of earth  could sneark into a city and activate a device that could totally destroy it?

Obviously not.  So your Ron Paulian Isolationism won&#039;t do anything towards defending us.

Based on what John Quincy Adams wrote below, do you think he would advocate puting his head in the sand?



In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adams&#039;s capital letters)â€¦ Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrantâ€¦ While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and goodwill towards men.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stevevvs: Did the Founders ever imagine that an enemy from the other side of earth  could sneark into a city and activate a device that could totally destroy it?</p>
<p>Obviously not.  So your Ron Paulian Isolationism won&#8217;t do anything towards defending us.</p>
<p>Based on what John Quincy Adams wrote below, do you think he would advocate puting his head in the sand?</p>
<p>In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adams&#8217;s capital letters)â€¦ Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrantâ€¦ While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and goodwill towards men.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: if you hadn&#039;t noticed, the Iraqi&#039;s are doing their own nation building now.

Maybe you should take this up with Maliki and the Iraqi Army.  Explain to them that since they are only devout lifelong Shiites, they don&#039;t have nearly the depth of understanding of Islam that You Do.  Teach them that their belief that they can control their own destiny is completely wrong, since You, Steve, are the True Mahdi and only Mahdi Steve can proclaim What Will Work.  

I&#039;m sure they will be very receptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: if you hadn&#8217;t noticed, the Iraqi&#8217;s are doing their own nation building now.</p>
<p>Maybe you should take this up with Maliki and the Iraqi Army.  Explain to them that since they are only devout lifelong Shiites, they don&#8217;t have nearly the depth of understanding of Islam that You Do.  Teach them that their belief that they can control their own destiny is completely wrong, since You, Steve, are the True Mahdi and only Mahdi Steve can proclaim What Will Work.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they will be very receptive.</p>
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		<title>By: stevevvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevevvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wonder though, if we leave, will violence go up do you think?

If we don&#039;t leave, is that Victory?

Has anyone ever read what Bin Laden said? The reason he has declaired war on us is not because of WHO we are, but WHERE we are. 

Have you taken the time to read his writtings from 1991 till the present? It might be worth your time.

Have you studied the Qur&#039;an at all? 

Read any good books on Islam lately?

Is it necessary to study what motivates the Enemy in a war?

Do either McCain or Obama have a good understanding of Islam?

Should they?

What did our Founding Fathers think of Nation Building?

Were they for it?

Did they believe in spreading Democracy?

In 1821 John Quincy Adams said: &quot; She (America) well knows that by once enlisting herself under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all of the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. 
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly CHANGE from Liberty to force.  She might become Dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the Ruler of HER OWN SPIRIT.

In trying to instill America&#039;s system in devoutly Islamic lands, U.S. Leaders display an arrogance derived from an odd combination of ignorance an naivete. Ignorance, in not recognizing America&#039;s uniqueness or accepting that our political experiance is not reproducible in a society characterized by the powerful pervasiveness of the Islamic Faith, a creed whose believers hear a recommendation that they adopt secular democracy as an urging that they turn their back on God (Allah). Page 269 of Marching Towards Hell, America and Islam After Iraq. 
I highly recommend it, along with Willful Blindness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder though, if we leave, will violence go up do you think?</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t leave, is that Victory?</p>
<p>Has anyone ever read what Bin Laden said? The reason he has declaired war on us is not because of WHO we are, but WHERE we are. </p>
<p>Have you taken the time to read his writtings from 1991 till the present? It might be worth your time.</p>
<p>Have you studied the Qur&#8217;an at all? </p>
<p>Read any good books on Islam lately?</p>
<p>Is it necessary to study what motivates the Enemy in a war?</p>
<p>Do either McCain or Obama have a good understanding of Islam?</p>
<p>Should they?</p>
<p>What did our Founding Fathers think of Nation Building?</p>
<p>Were they for it?</p>
<p>Did they believe in spreading Democracy?</p>
<p>In 1821 John Quincy Adams said: &#8221; She (America) well knows that by once enlisting herself under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all of the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.<br />
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly CHANGE from Liberty to force.  She might become Dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the Ruler of HER OWN SPIRIT.</p>
<p>In trying to instill America&#8217;s system in devoutly Islamic lands, U.S. Leaders display an arrogance derived from an odd combination of ignorance an naivete. Ignorance, in not recognizing America&#8217;s uniqueness or accepting that our political experiance is not reproducible in a society characterized by the powerful pervasiveness of the Islamic Faith, a creed whose believers hear a recommendation that they adopt secular democracy as an urging that they turn their back on God (Allah). Page 269 of Marching Towards Hell, America and Islam After Iraq.<br />
I highly recommend it, along with Willful Blindness.</p>
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		<title>By: stevevvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevevvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to know that in 2008 we will achieve VICTORY in Iraq!! What month will we start the pull out do you think?

Will we also achieve Sweet Victory in Afghanistan in 2008? What month will we start the pull out there?

Victory 2008! I like the sound of that! 

Since Victory has been assured by AJ in 2008, I can rest easy and not worry about McCain or Obama. Obama&#039;s call for Troop withdrawls in 2009 will not be necessary, as Iraq will have been secured, and peace achieved. Christians, Jews, Kerds,Sunnies and Sheites all living in Harmony! Disney may want to open a theme park there! 2008 will be a great year!

Thanks for reassuring me personally. 


This year, this will end:

6/20/2008 Iraq, Baghdad- 3 killed, 8 injured in A Jihad car bombing 

6/17/2008 Iraq, Baghdad 63 killed 78 injured Shiite radicals bomb an open-air market, slaughtering over sixty shoppers and vendors. 

Peace in our time, praise Allah!

No need to worry about a Constitution based in Islamic Law Either! Praise Allah!

Awesome news, awesome post, thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to know that in 2008 we will achieve VICTORY in Iraq!! What month will we start the pull out do you think?</p>
<p>Will we also achieve Sweet Victory in Afghanistan in 2008? What month will we start the pull out there?</p>
<p>Victory 2008! I like the sound of that! </p>
<p>Since Victory has been assured by AJ in 2008, I can rest easy and not worry about McCain or Obama. Obama&#8217;s call for Troop withdrawls in 2009 will not be necessary, as Iraq will have been secured, and peace achieved. Christians, Jews, Kerds,Sunnies and Sheites all living in Harmony! Disney may want to open a theme park there! 2008 will be a great year!</p>
<p>Thanks for reassuring me personally. </p>
<p>This year, this will end:</p>
<p>6/20/2008 Iraq, Baghdad- 3 killed, 8 injured in A Jihad car bombing </p>
<p>6/17/2008 Iraq, Baghdad 63 killed 78 injured Shiite radicals bomb an open-air market, slaughtering over sixty shoppers and vendors. </p>
<p>Peace in our time, praise Allah!</p>
<p>No need to worry about a Constitution based in Islamic Law Either! Praise Allah!</p>
<p>Awesome news, awesome post, thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murtha and Hadita

Harry Reid and the war is lost

The Pelosi gas plan (Taco&#039;s for a steady diet if they don&#039;t turn all the corn into ethanol)

The NutRoots feeling like they are under the bus with Obama&#039;s vote on FISA and the Dems as a whole along with that as well on the war funding.

The nutroots is getting ready to kick in more effort for their alternate slate of &#039;progressive aka socialist&#039; dems to run against the &#039;blue dog OR bush dog&#039; dems depending on where you read will help draw support, volunteers and money away from the dem effort for down ticket races.

Add in the PUMA (Party of Unity My A$$) set of Hillary supporters and the big tent over there is getting a lot of rips in the fabric and a disturbance in the farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murtha and Hadita</p>
<p>Harry Reid and the war is lost</p>
<p>The Pelosi gas plan (Taco&#8217;s for a steady diet if they don&#8217;t turn all the corn into ethanol)</p>
<p>The NutRoots feeling like they are under the bus with Obama&#8217;s vote on FISA and the Dems as a whole along with that as well on the war funding.</p>
<p>The nutroots is getting ready to kick in more effort for their alternate slate of &#8216;progressive aka socialist&#8217; dems to run against the &#8216;blue dog OR bush dog&#8217; dems depending on where you read will help draw support, volunteers and money away from the dem effort for down ticket races.</p>
<p>Add in the PUMA (Party of Unity My A$$) set of Hillary supporters and the big tent over there is getting a lot of rips in the fabric and a disturbance in the farce.</p>
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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5576/comment-page-1#comment-343067</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to have faith in my fellow citizens that they wont choose that man.</description>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He can deny progress and bring the troops home now because getting the troops out of Iraq is the only way to fund his domestic programs. He has no intension of sending more troops to Afghanistan either. Reduce the size of the military and defense programs just like Bill Clinton did is the way to fund his programs and hope for the best. Obama has said this over and over again.  The public needs to believe him and consider the consequences. Bill did ok dropping bombs from thousands of feet. Obama thinks he can do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can deny progress and bring the troops home now because getting the troops out of Iraq is the only way to fund his domestic programs. He has no intension of sending more troops to Afghanistan either. Reduce the size of the military and defense programs just like Bill Clinton did is the way to fund his programs and hope for the best. Obama has said this over and over again.  The public needs to believe him and consider the consequences. Bill did ok dropping bombs from thousands of feet. Obama thinks he can do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone has to keep the Democrats&#039; feet to the fire over the things they said in the not so distant past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone has to keep the Democrats&#8217; feet to the fire over the things they said in the not so distant past.</p>
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