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		<title>By: Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, July 24th 2008 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-515276</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, July 24th 2008 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to smear Dr Spencer&#8217;s reputation at the end of the video: . New reports consider that the oceans could be responsible for 70% of any warming, which is a problem if you&#8217;ve been blaming CO2.Â  More here and here. The scare-mongering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to smear Dr Spencer&#8217;s reputation at the end of the video: . New reports consider that the oceans could be responsible for 70% of any warming, which is a problem if you&#8217;ve been blaming CO2.Â  More here and here. The scare-mongering [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; World Cools On Man-Made Global Warming</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-418593</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; World Cools On Man-Made Global Warming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of NASA not attached to the Church of Al Gore/IPCC - which still does real science - noted that 70% of the Global Climate is independent of Green House Gases, out of which CO2 is only a small fraction of Green House Gas mix (water vapor is by far the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of NASA not attached to the Church of Al Gore/IPCC &#8211; which still does real science &#8211; noted that 70% of the Global Climate is independent of Green House Gases, out of which CO2 is only a small fraction of Green House Gas mix (water vapor is by far the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Where Did All The Global Warming Go?</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-384828</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Where Did All The Global Warming Go?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems that most of the Global Warming IS NOT driven by man, as one real NASA Scientist noted to Congress this year. The very important discovery that 70% of the Global Warming was due to natural forces should have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seems that most of the Global Warming IS NOT driven by man, as one real NASA Scientist noted to Congress this year. The very important discovery that 70% of the Global Warming was due to natural forces should have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob Blog &#187; Progress in Climate Science</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-359442</link>
		<dc:creator>Plumb Bob Blog &#187; Progress in Climate Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Strata-sphere posted testimony about a week ago that was delivered in front of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on July 22 by Roy Spencer, one of the world&#8217;s leading climatologists and US Science Team Leader on NASA&#8217;s Aqua satellite instrumentation. Proponents of Anthropogenic Global Climate Change (AGW) hate Dr. Spencer, since he doesn&#8217;t agree that humans are at the root of it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Strata-sphere posted testimony about a week ago that was delivered in front of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on July 22 by Roy Spencer, one of the world&#8217;s leading climatologists and US Science Team Leader on NASA&#8217;s Aqua satellite instrumentation. Proponents of Anthropogenic Global Climate Change (AGW) hate Dr. Spencer, since he doesn&#8217;t agree that humans are at the root of it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-357354</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who didn&#039;t read the report, you can&#039;t miss this part at the beginning ...&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. White House Involvement in the Reporting of Agency Employeesâ€™ Work&lt;/b&gt;
On the subject of the Administrationâ€™s involvement in policy-relevant scientific work performed by government employees in the EPA, NASA, and other agencies, I can provide some perspective based upon my previous experiences as a NASA employee. For example, during the Clinton-Gore Administration I was told what I could and could not say during congressional testimony. Since it was well known that I am skeptical of the view that mankindâ€™s greenhouse gas emissions are mostly responsible for global warming, &lt;b&gt;I assumed that this advice was to help protect Vice President Goreâ€™s agenda on the subject&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who didn&#8217;t read the report, you can&#8217;t miss this part at the beginning &#8230;<br />
<blockquote><b>1. White House Involvement in the Reporting of Agency Employeesâ€™ Work</b><br />
On the subject of the Administrationâ€™s involvement in policy-relevant scientific work performed by government employees in the EPA, NASA, and other agencies, I can provide some perspective based upon my previous experiences as a NASA employee. For example, during the Clinton-Gore Administration I was told what I could and could not say during congressional testimony. Since it was well known that I am skeptical of the view that mankindâ€™s greenhouse gas emissions are mostly responsible for global warming, <b>I assumed that this advice was to help protect Vice President Goreâ€™s agenda on the subject</b>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: A Climate Change Model That Works &#171; Colorado Right</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-357002</link>
		<dc:creator>A Climate Change Model That Works &#171; Colorado Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Climate Change Model That&#160;Works One that actually can reflect conditions - and its from NASA too [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Climate Change Model That&nbsp;Works One that actually can reflect conditions &#8211; and its from NASA too [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NASA Discovers 70% Of Global Climate Due To Pacific Ocean Oscillations - Not CO2 &#171; Blowing Our Tax Dollars on Wind Farms</title>
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		<dc:creator>NASA Discovers 70% Of Global Climate Due To Pacific Ocean Oscillations - Not CO2 &#171; Blowing Our Tax Dollars on Wind Farms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Strata-Sphere [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray_in_Aus</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_in_Aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Captain Willy wrote:

Ray_in_Aus, how can you forget the HELL of Y2K? Donâ€™t you remember? The airplanes that spontaneously crashed, the elevators plunged 100 storeys? Donâ€™t you even remember the global recession that followed?

And on December 31, 1999, those of us who work in the software industry were wondering what the hell everyone was talking about.&lt;/b&gt;

Yeah, that was ok for you guys because you knew how to move your computer clocks forward to see what happened - but what about the rest of us?

Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Captain Willy wrote:</p>
<p>Ray_in_Aus, how can you forget the HELL of Y2K? Donâ€™t you remember? The airplanes that spontaneously crashed, the elevators plunged 100 storeys? Donâ€™t you even remember the global recession that followed?</p>
<p>And on December 31, 1999, those of us who work in the software industry were wondering what the hell everyone was talking about.</b></p>
<p>Yeah, that was ok for you guys because you knew how to move your computer clocks forward to see what happened &#8211; but what about the rest of us?</p>
<p>Ray</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356739</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan,

Who are you kidding?  I quoted the scientist, I have a degree in science and I work for NASA.  The IPCC is the one who has twisted their results to create a myth.  And now, every week, data comes in proving them wrong.

CO2 is not the culprit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan,</p>
<p>Who are you kidding?  I quoted the scientist, I have a degree in science and I work for NASA.  The IPCC is the one who has twisted their results to create a myth.  And now, every week, data comes in proving them wrong.</p>
<p>CO2 is not the culprit.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Mghee</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356592</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Mghee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each and every lone scientist and the people/companies/groups behind them that take these data and re-configures them without subjecting them to review will also be dealt with at the hands of the possible new ruling regarding false and misleading statements about global warming.  Recently Don Easterbrook took a report from JPL NASA and re-worded it to his liking, reporting and blogging to all that it shows global cooling.  That is not what the scientists behind the research concluded:

Important information from the source article (NASA):

The image also shows that this La NiÃ±a is occurring within the context of a larger climate event, the early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation is a long-term fluctuation of the Pacific Ocean that waxes and wanes between cool and warm phases approximately every five to 20 years. In the cool phase, higher than normal sea-surface heights caused by warm water form a horseshoe pattern that connects the north, west and southern Pacific, with cool water in the middle. During most of the 1980s and 1990s, the Pacific was locked in the oscillation&#039;s warm phase, during which these warm and cool regions are reversed. For an explanation of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and its present state, see: http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/ and http://www.esr.org/pdo_index.html . 

â€œThis multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation &#039;cool&#039; trend can intensify La NiÃ±a or diminish El NiÃ±o impacts around the Pacific basin,&quot; said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at NASA&#039;s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. &quot;The persistence of this large-scale pattern tells us there is much more than an isolated La NiÃ±a occurring in the Pacific Ocean.&quot; 

Sea surface temperature satellite data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also clearly show a cool Pacific Decadal Oscillation pattern, as seen at: http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/sst/sst.anom.gi ... . The shift in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, with its widespread Pacific Ocean temperature changes, will have significant implications for global climate. It can affect Pacific and Atlantic hurricane activity, droughts and flooding around the Pacific basin, marine ecosystems and global land temperature patterns. 

â€œThe comings and goings of El NiÃ±o, La NiÃ±a and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation are part of a longer, ongoing change in global climate,â€ said Josh Willis, a JPL oceanographer and climate scientist. Sea level rise and global warming due to increases in greenhouse gases can be strongly affected by large natural climate phenomenon such as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and the El Nino-Southern Oscillation. â€œIn fact,â€ said Willis, â€œthese natural climate phenomena can sometimes hide global warming caused by human activities. Or they can have the opposite effect of accentuating it.â€ 
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008 ...

It&#039;s important to look beyond the headlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each and every lone scientist and the people/companies/groups behind them that take these data and re-configures them without subjecting them to review will also be dealt with at the hands of the possible new ruling regarding false and misleading statements about global warming.  Recently Don Easterbrook took a report from JPL NASA and re-worded it to his liking, reporting and blogging to all that it shows global cooling.  That is not what the scientists behind the research concluded:</p>
<p>Important information from the source article (NASA):</p>
<p>The image also shows that this La NiÃ±a is occurring within the context of a larger climate event, the early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation is a long-term fluctuation of the Pacific Ocean that waxes and wanes between cool and warm phases approximately every five to 20 years. In the cool phase, higher than normal sea-surface heights caused by warm water form a horseshoe pattern that connects the north, west and southern Pacific, with cool water in the middle. During most of the 1980s and 1990s, the Pacific was locked in the oscillation&#8217;s warm phase, during which these warm and cool regions are reversed. For an explanation of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and its present state, see: <a href="http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/" rel="nofollow">http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/</a> and <a href="http://www.esr.org/pdo_index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.esr.org/pdo_index.html</a> . </p>
<p>â€œThis multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation &#8216;cool&#8217; trend can intensify La NiÃ±a or diminish El NiÃ±o impacts around the Pacific basin,&#8221; said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at NASA&#8217;s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. &#8220;The persistence of this large-scale pattern tells us there is much more than an isolated La NiÃ±a occurring in the Pacific Ocean.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sea surface temperature satellite data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also clearly show a cool Pacific Decadal Oscillation pattern, as seen at: <a href="http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/sst/sst.anom.gi" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/sst/sst.anom.gi</a> &#8230; . The shift in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, with its widespread Pacific Ocean temperature changes, will have significant implications for global climate. It can affect Pacific and Atlantic hurricane activity, droughts and flooding around the Pacific basin, marine ecosystems and global land temperature patterns. </p>
<p>â€œThe comings and goings of El NiÃ±o, La NiÃ±a and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation are part of a longer, ongoing change in global climate,â€ said Josh Willis, a JPL oceanographer and climate scientist. Sea level rise and global warming due to increases in greenhouse gases can be strongly affected by large natural climate phenomenon such as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and the El Nino-Southern Oscillation. â€œIn fact,â€ said Willis, â€œthese natural climate phenomena can sometimes hide global warming caused by human activities. Or they can have the opposite effect of accentuating it.â€<br />
<a href="http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008</a> &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to look beyond the headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Willy</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356577</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray_in_Aus, how can you forget the HELL of Y2K? Don&#039;t you remember? The airplanes that spontaneously crashed, the elevators plunged 100 storeys? Don&#039;t you even remember the global recession that followed?

And on December 31, 1999,  those of us who work in the software industry were wondering what the hell everyone was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray_in_Aus, how can you forget the HELL of Y2K? Don&#8217;t you remember? The airplanes that spontaneously crashed, the elevators plunged 100 storeys? Don&#8217;t you even remember the global recession that followed?</p>
<p>And on December 31, 1999,  those of us who work in the software industry were wondering what the hell everyone was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Oscillations &#171; Prudence Ponder</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356576</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Change Oscillations &#171; Prudence Ponder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 23, 2008   NASA says that rises in temperature are not due to CO2. Instead, it&#8217;s the Pacific Ocean&#8217;s fault: What this means is no matter how much you change your CO2 footprint, how much you try to be CO2 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 23, 2008   NASA says that rises in temperature are not due to CO2. Instead, it&#8217;s the Pacific Ocean&#8217;s fault: What this means is no matter how much you change your CO2 footprint, how much you try to be CO2 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dailybayonet</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356409</link>
		<dc:creator>dailybayonet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey norm,
since you asked, here&#039;s a link to over 50 peer-reviewed papers that challenge the &#039;settled science&#039; of the global warming hoax.

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23406

enjoy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey norm,<br />
since you asked, here&#8217;s a link to over 50 peer-reviewed papers that challenge the &#8216;settled science&#8217; of the global warming hoax.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23406" rel="nofollow">http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23406</a></p>
<p>enjoy <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hey norm</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-356204</link>
		<dc:creator>hey norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...you cannot save the planet from its natural cycles...&quot;  of course not.  but you can save the natural cycles from accelerated influence by man.  obviously trying to reverse natural cycles would be just as bad as accelerating them.  the point that seems completely lost on you deniers is minimizing or, ideally, eliminating mans influence.  maybe you will figure that out one day.
&quot;...which will run into the tens of trillions of dollars and cripple the world economies...&quot;  oooooh the melodrama.  oooooh the hyperbole.
question: given the million$ that big oil has funneled to deniers, why can&#039;t any of you produce peer-reviewed science backing up your claims?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;you cannot save the planet from its natural cycles&#8230;&#8221;  of course not.  but you can save the natural cycles from accelerated influence by man.  obviously trying to reverse natural cycles would be just as bad as accelerating them.  the point that seems completely lost on you deniers is minimizing or, ideally, eliminating mans influence.  maybe you will figure that out one day.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;which will run into the tens of trillions of dollars and cripple the world economies&#8230;&#8221;  oooooh the melodrama.  oooooh the hyperbole.<br />
question: given the million$ that big oil has funneled to deniers, why can&#8217;t any of you produce peer-reviewed science backing up your claims?</p>
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		<title>By: VA Voter</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5693/comment-page-1#comment-355900</link>
		<dc:creator>VA Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the course of history their have to be some examples of societies that ended up destroying themselves over trying to reverse some natural phenomenon.  

A good history buff (of which I am not) could find one that most closely resembles global warming and we could use their name to brand the Global Warmists.  In addition to Church of Al Gore/IPCC , of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the course of history their have to be some examples of societies that ended up destroying themselves over trying to reverse some natural phenomenon.  </p>
<p>A good history buff (of which I am not) could find one that most closely resembles global warming and we could use their name to brand the Global Warmists.  In addition to Church of Al Gore/IPCC , of course.</p>
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