Jul 22 2008
The Cult Of The COLB Took A Hit Today
Seems the rock solid evidence of a forgery is not so rock solid all of a sudden – with new data coming to light supporting the information on the Obama COLB. TexasDarling is the one eating the crow on this one, but at least she/he has the integrity to post the data and admit the whole COLB thing was a waste of time (H/T Reader Kathie):
Based on all the research and analysis to date, here is what I believe today, not to be accepted as fact by anyone who wants to believe something else:
1. Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, the hospital still unknown for some reason, on Aug. 4, 1961. A birth announcement in the newspaper has been found by one of our researchers …
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Hi, I’ve talked to the Department of Vital Records and the Honolulu Advertiser.In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records – we know this because this particular section reflects those records.
Wonder how Techdud (yep, that is a deliberate typo) and Pam Geller are doing? Are they preparing some crow or building a wall of denial? Whatever, I did find this comment on the irrefutable evidence report quite telling:
OK, I considered it.
a) No matter how someone presents themselves an “expert in forgeries” – to suggest you can determine something a forgery by comparing (1) different documents (2) printed on different printers and then (3) scanned in on different scanners (4) at different resolutions before being (5) saved at different resolutions
…is RIDICULOUS.
It’s like diagnosing illness from TV with the sound off. I don’t know how to get more clear about it – you, Techdude, nor anyone else aren’t even in direct contact with the evidence.
And further – you don’t even have any evidence that any “crime” has even occurred! You just want to believe there is a crime, because you don’t like him – for reasons we all know you decided long before there was any thought that his birth certificate might not be accurate.
b) The differences that are being suggested as “proof of forgery” are *exactly the kind of differences* you can expect from, you guessed it,
(1) different documents (2) printed on different printers and then (3) scanned in on different scanners (4) at different resolutions before being (5) saved at different resolutions.
See?
But you want to believe you have found something. Well alright then! Have at it. 🙂
I believe that was the point I was making – this person just did it quite succinctly.
It doesn’t seemed to have slowed down the other conspiracy theories surrounding Obama’s birth yet. They’re still flailing around crazily.
Ray
Well until Obama does the responsible thing and end the doubt people have, why would anyone expect the controversy to go away?
He did the responsible thing when he applied for the ballot. Have you seen John McCain’s, George Bush’s, or Bill Clinton’s birth certificate? Obama gave his birth certificate to the elections officials where he applied to be on the ballot as a candidate for the Presidency. Believe me, I am NO fan of Obama, but this fuss is just plain dumb.
VinceP1974 wrote:
Well until Obama does the responsible thing and end the doubt people have, why would anyone expect the controversy to go away?
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Why on earth would Obama need to do anything more than he’s already done? He doesn’t need the “nutter” vote.
* He has scanned his certified birth record and shown us.
* Witnesses have stated that it is a faithful reproduction.
* Hawaii Health stated it was a genuine birth record.
* The details on it have been confirmed by a newspaper ad.
* We already know what’s on the real certificate anyway.
His original certificate looks just like the one in the link below, and it’s floating around in the offices of the U.S. Senate and cannot be located and Hawaii does not issue them any more.
http://snarkybytes.com/?p=521
The conspiracists are not going to find words like this on it, even it is eventually found:
“6.0% Arab”
“Muslim”
“Negro”
“Unmarried mother”
“Just flew in from Kenya”
“Just flew in from Gilligan’s Island”
“Father married under tribal law but not Kenyan law”
“Late registration”
“Father is a foreigner”
“Father is not a U.S. citizen”
“Father is bigamist”
Ray
Ray, I really dont care.
It’s bizarre how you’re obssessed with this.. and you call other people nutters.
VinceP1974 wrote:
Ray, I really dont care.
It’s bizarre how you’re obssessed with this.. and you call other people nutters.
At least I’m providing some accurate answers instead of an unending stream of b.s. For example the Obama text looks out-of-whack simply because the computer operator in Hawaii Health found after fitting the new 2007 border that it was overlapping it the bottom, so it was all reduced to about 98.7% That’s all it is, although I’m still waiting for someone to check it and confirm it.
Ray
I’ve just been catching up on the Texasdarlin blog. It’s really quite disturbing how so many posters are still frantically grasping at straws – apparently because on Obama’s racial background, because his policies, political history and general attitude etc are not getting much of a mention at all.
I don’t suppose there’s any chance of changing the Constitution to bar dark skinned people from the standing? That might keep ’em happy.
Ray
I’ve just been catching up on the Texasdarlin blog. It’s really quite disturbing how so many posters are still frantically grasping at straws – apparently because of Obama’s racial background, rather than his policies, political history and general attitude etc .
I don’t suppose there’s any chance of changing the Constitution to bar dark skinned people from the standing? That might keep ’em happy.
Ray
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“The Cult Of The COLB Took A Hit Today” [HEADING]
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Hey AJ, it looks like you’ve nuked ’em. The Atlas Shrugs blog has gone totally silent in relation to all the defamatory forgery claims and your delusions about it 🙂
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive/comments/page/5/#comments
Here is a composite image that I made of the KOS COLB (enlarged to 101%) sitting on top of the Michele COLB at 100%.
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It shows how the main body of the text and the accompanying spacing in the KOS version lines up with the Michele version – which is the standard format for Hawaii COLB’s.
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When the KOS version with the new border was made in 2007, the text (and it’s spacing) had to be reduced to 99% so that the whole block below “Child’s Name” would fit inside the smaller border without the “Laser print 2001 etc” overlapping it.
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In this example it is the KOS version that has been enlarged to 101% so it would match the Michele version, but if the Michele version was reduced to 99% it would match the KOS version.
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The text at the top of the COLB above “Child’s name” was left untouched when the KOS version was made in 2007.
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Very slight overlap is visible in this composite JPG below, but that would be caused by things like:
* Microscopic optical error in the 2 scanners used.
* Flatness of the COLB’s on the scanner beds.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r478/RayAus/MICHELEKOSCOMPOSITE.jpg
Ray
A few more links to a blog that is covering the COLB saga:
[Part 1]
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/obamas-birth-ce.html
[Part 2]
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/obamas-birth–1.html
I noticed that the Texasdarlin blog went out of action at about 00hrs UT.
dave m wrote on another thread:
By the way:
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Breaking news on Texasdarlin:
Two sources, including Larry Johnson of No Quarter (who’s been in Hawaii on business), have independently told me that Republicans have in their possession Barack Obama’s Hawaiian Birth Certificate.
The sources confirm that the theory first presented here — see Obama Hides Indonesian Identity, Fake Birth Certificate Explained — nearly 2 weeks ago, IS TRUE:
The name on the Birth Certificate is Barry Soetoro.
Larry Johnson reports:
Did I also mention how small Hawaii is? Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.
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This is old news. Obama has broadcast the fact that he had a step-father named Soetoro who was married to his mother and as we all know, women traditionally take the name of their husband, so she too would have been Soetoro whether she liked it or not – and so would Bazza while he was in Indonesia and possibly in Hawaii for a short time before his family went to Indonesia.
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So if Obama was to be asked iby some rooky journalist if he had used the surname Soetoro as a small kid he would say “Yeah, for a few years – why do you ask?”
Rooky Journalist: “Fraud”
Puzzled Obama : “Huh?”
Rooky Journalist: “Concealing your background”
Puzzled Obama : “Concealing what – the name I used as a kid?”
Rooky Journalist: “Yes”
Amused Obama : “What name do you THINK I should have used?”
Rooky Journalist: “Obama – your original name”
Amused Obama : “I did when the family broke up. Still do.”
Rooky Journalist: “What about the other birth certificate?”
Amused Obama : “What this one?”
http://www.q-audio.com/images/soetorocolb.jpg
Rooky Journalist: Yes
Amused Obama : “Oh, that was one of my early forgeries.”
Ray
[HONOLULU ADVERTISER TODAY]:
Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said.
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“They responded and apparently it isn’t good enough that he posted his birth certificate,” Okubo said. “They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It’s pretty ridiculous.”
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AJSTRATA = 1 —- SMEARERS = 0
Ray
I’ve just been jazzing-up my little text analysis program to see if Techdude’s internet identity can be guessed. Whoever he is, it sounds like he loves talking about himself because I just shoveled in 4682 of his words (sans numbers and URL’s etc) and noticed that the 3rd most common word was “I”. He used it for 1 in every 35 words in this stack of text.
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The most commonly used word in most people’s writing seems to be “The” so he could hardly be expected to exceed that.
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I’ve also noticed that he and Larry have roughly the same number of words in their vocabulary (per 100 words on an accumulating basis).
It looks like we can rule out the guy who writes those word long salads for TexasDarlin because his vocabulary (per 100 words on an accumulating basis is a fair bit lower) than Techdude.
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If anyone wants to have any text checked, it’s no problem to process 64,000 words to see what pops up.
Ray