Jul 28 2008

Meet The Dan Rathers Of The Right – The Cult Of The COLB

Delusional obsession. What else could explain people like Dan Rather, who still think the forged TANG documents – shown to have been created using a modern word processing program – are real even though the evidence is overwhelmingly against such conclusions? I have no clue, but to take clear evidence that something is a forgery and try to create some fantasy rationale that it really proves legitimacy is the epitome of obsession.

And while the left has Dan Rather and his cult, or the Downing Street Memo Cult, the right has The Cult of the COLB (aka, Certificate Of Live Birth). Check out how this CULT leader detects forgery when confronted with solid proof of legitimacy. It all starts with one of those flashing overlays from Snappedshot showing BHO COLB (2007) and another known HI COLB (2002):

 

(For anyone not up on this matter you can see my previous posts here).  

It is clear from this that the known update in format between the 2002 and 2007 (BHO) COLB is the border pattern, but the text stays put – as one would expect. So, what does this demonstrate to the one Polarik, a blogger at Townhall who help start this idiocy? Proof of conspiracy of course!

OK, like what are the odds of having two COLBs, one that we know was from Sep 9, 2002, and one that was ‘allegedly’ from June 9, 2007, with different border patterns, lining up perfectly on the placements of the borders, images, headers & footers, text fields, and data fields?

Like the odds of winning the lottery.

This dude needs therapy. Because the Obama COLB has the same format as another COLB it is now a fake??? But before there were all these mysterious differences that made the OBAMA COLB fake – which were one by one debunked. I wish this guy would make up his mind.

Thus ends the tale of the Cult of the COLB (at least for this blogger). A strange and bizarre tale of delusional obsession.

19 responses so far

19 Responses to “Meet The Dan Rathers Of The Right – The Cult Of The COLB”

  1. dave m says:

    Oh No!
    Just when ya thought all them pixels had been catalogued and the
    issue put to bed, it turns out the issue of the birth is not the total story
    anyways. Obama not constitutionally eligible to run because of dual citizenship.

    FOREWORD by TexasDarlin

    This is the second article in a two-part series by Judah Benjamin challenging the Constitutionality of Barack Obama’s bid for President.

    PART ONE explores the legal history and definition of “natural born citizen” under Article II of the US Constitution.

    PART TWO explores the factual basis for Barack Obama’s dual citizenship, and concludes that he has been a citizen of at least two countries, and therefore is ineligible to be President.

    The Author’s End Note presents a request for professional review.

    By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author

    [snipped]

    Here is the link:
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/divided-loyalties-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-2/#more-918

    Hopin’ it’s true texasdarlin !
    Anyway we can (legally) stop the muslim candidate works for me.
    Hillary has still not released her delegates.

  2. AJStrata says:

    Dave M,

    It is not proper to wholesale copy someone else’s work. And to the idea the COLB is now legal, and these fools want to try another tactic, remember there is no credibility left for them to make any claim.

    This is why the whole thing was a mistake. By ruining their cred on the COLB they have none for other issues. There is no reason to think his dual citizenship is a legal barrier because his US citizenship came first and was because he was born in the US to a US Citizens. The other citizenship came much later from his step dad.

    The whole thing is a big snoozer!

  3. dave m says:

    Well, first of all I certainly have not wholesale copied anyone’s work.
    I copied in about 5% of the article and gave the link.

    Secondly, this writer does not discuss issues of forgery of COLBs
    but rather the problematic possibility that Hussein has dual citizenship,
    to wit, USA and Indonesia.

    In cases of dual citizenship, I don’t think it matters who came first.
    If I, for example, took UK citizenship, because it would be convenient
    since I work over there, and because a very recent Supreme Court decision NOW allows me to, I could still not expect to run for Prez.

    Despite “My Country Tis of Thee” being musically identical to the
    UK national anthem, “God Save The Queen (King)”, the divided loyalty
    question remains.

    And I utterly reject the argument that if we express any hope that Hussein
    isn’t eligible to run, and yet he does, we have shot all the ammo and
    we are bereft of credibility. I’ll take a Hussein stop by any (legal) means
    that I can find, even hoping a stray meteor lands on his head, such is
    the danger to our free country.

    Hey, it’s your blog, that we know, but you’re beginning to sound like
    those global warming adherents who simply want to say no further
    discussion can be allowed.

  4. polarik says:

    Let it not be said that AJ can’t talk smak. You certainly can when it comes to my research, and it makes for a handy diversion when you have nothing to counter my assertions.

    In fact, what I love about you and the other members of the “Kos Konspiracy” — you know, the ones who still cling to the hope that the Kos image is a genuine copy of Obama’s Birth Certificate, or COLB: the acronym I coined.

    One of your other konspirators and kritiks (sic), someone named Koyaan, did me a favor, as have other detractors who, after positing arguments that they thought would negate mine, are shocked to learn that they actually support my arguments.

    Case in point.

    Koyaan was trying to recreate some of TechDude’s analysis of the borders, and he made an overlay out of Michele’s recent COLB image to compare it to the Kos image, which he, like you, staunchly maintains its veracity.

    BTW, he said that he pulled the image of Michele’s COLB from my posting of it.

    After discovering that Michele’s overlay did not match up to the mighty Kos image: rather, their aspect ratios (ratio of height to width) did not match, he proceeded to crack on me, saying that I must have messed it up somehow.

    Ah, but it’s the forger who messed things up. BIG TIME.

    If I thought that I had a “smoking gun” before, then, thanks to Koyaan’s crack, I now had a “smoking cannon.”

    Koyaan’s whining prompted me to compare, for myself, whether the aspect ratios of Michele’s COLB and the KOS COLB were different.

    Darn if they were!

    BUT, the aspect ratios of the Kos image and the DeCosta image were identical, as would be the case since I posted that flashing GIF (and a second one) which superimposes both images.

    Now, you AJ, and the folks who did the first GIF, conclude that they are alike because they are both real cOLBS, and any differences are due to changes from 2002 to 2007.

    HOWEVER, unless the Laws of Physics were temporarily suspended for this demonstration, there is no way on God’s` green Earth that they should ever be the same.

    You see, Dear AJ, the reason why they should never line up is because of those massive horizontal folds in the DeCosta image which are plainly visible.

    These folds prevented the paper COLB from being flattened out to its original size — in effect, “scrunching down” the length of the document, and producing an image whose height became shorter as a consequence. Had the paper COLB been flat against the scanner glass, then the height would have been at its proper size, and the aspect ratio would have matched the aspect ratio of Michele’s COLB.

    now, since the Kos image plainly shows only ONE THIN FOLD line instead of at least two major fold lines, it speaks to a paper COLB placed flat against the scanner glass and scanned in at its original height.

    That is, if the Kos image actually was a true and original copy produced by a scanner.

    If it was, then HOW can an image of a fully-extended COLB, lying flat against the scanner glass, exactly match the image of a shorter, “scrunched up” COLB whose big folds prevented it from being scanned at its full length??

    The answer is IT CAN’T!!!

    The ONLY reason why both of these images match up is because the forger used the DeCosta image as a template for “manufacturing” the Kos image.

    The forged Kos image also spawned the copy on Obama’s website and the copy on FactCheck (who decided to leave — or “tack on”– that 3 inch blank “stub” on the top of the COLB to make it appear more “original.”)

    Oh, here’s one more nail in the Kos koffin. The only other COLB image to have an aspect ratio close to the Kos and Decosta images is the Smith image, which, coincidentally, ALSO HAS TWO BIG FOLDS IN IT just like DeCosta’s.

    As Kenny Rogers sang, “You got to know when to ‘fold’ them, and when to hold them.

    Time to fold, AJ, I’ve got a Royal Flush.

  5. AJStrata says:

    Polarik,

    You are technical idiot. Your a glorified printer repair man – nothing else. Don’ kid yourself – you have no clue what you are doing or talking about. You are the equivalent of a witch doctor to a neurosurgeon. Techdude has some potential, you don’t have a prayer.

    Do you even have a college degree? Do you have a degree in computer systems? Look, you can pretend in front of the every day folks, but you are never going to impress me with anything more than how truly ignorant you are of technology and computers. Don’t forget who is the rocket scientist here.

  6. Ray_in_Aus says:

    polarik wrote:

    In fact, what I love about you and the other members of the “Kos Konspiracy” — you know, the ones who still cling to the hope that the Kos image is a genuine copy of Obama’s Birth Certificate, or COLB: the acronym I coined.
    .

    There are at least 6 witnesses who say that the Obama COLB is genuine bit ZERO witnesses who say the opposite.

    The 2007 version of Hawaii’s certificates had a new border which had smaller inside dimensions, so the text panel (starting from “Child’s Name”) was reduced to 99%. When that is accounted for, there is a perfect vertical line-up of the text and and almost perfect horizontal line-up. There is a distortion of 0.2%, presumably due to microscopic printer or scanner errors.
    .

    One of your other konspirators and kritiks (sic), someone named Koyaan, did me a favor, as have other detractors who, after positing arguments that they thought would negate mine, are shocked to learn that they actually support my arguments.
    .

    It was a false alarm, caused by an illogical belief that the background patterns should match precisely. Those backgrounds are pre-printed.
    .

    Koyaan’s whining prompted me to compare, for myself, whether the aspect ratios of Michele’s COLB and the KOS COLB were different.

    Darn if they were!
    .

    You’re barking up the wrong tree. You should be furiously
    back-pedaling right now, instead of barking up wrong trees and
    inventing words with “k” in them.
    .

    BUT, the aspect ratios of the Kos image and the DeCosta image were identical, as would be the case since I posted that flashing GIF (and a second one) which superimposes both images.
    .

    Flashing GIF’s are a complete waste of time because the text is 100% in the Michele version and 99% (in a large panel of the certificate) in the Obamaa version.

    Ray

  7. Ray_in_Aus says:

    Polarik,

    AJ is right, but he’s been too kind. You’re more than a “technical
    idiot” – your’e also an idiot con-artist who came out of nowhere after Obama placed his COLB on the net, with the sole intention of wasting people’s time an creating a false report that was guraranteed to suck in unskilled people and fellow idiot-trolls.
    .

    If you were genuine you wouldn’t have lied and misrepresented what you were doing every step of the way.
    .

    If you were genuine you would NOT have:
    (a) Made your 2 minute ‘forgery’ without mentioning that any fool could spot the flaws in it by increasing the contrast and looking for JPG artifacts.
    .
    (b) Pretended that the phantom forger did what you did.
    .
    (c) Refrained from interaction when challenges were made to your defective logic and ramblings.
    .
    (d) Introduced your idiotic “copyright” issue.
    .
    (e) Started calling the the truth-seekers “konspirators and kritiks” and other idiotic names, when it is actually YOU who is a con artist.
    .
    (f) Declined to demonstrate your flakey forgery theory when
    challenged.
    .
    (g) Introduced all your “k words” (to kommunicate), but seeing as how I’ve brought up the “k words” issue, I’d better mention that if you knowingly persist with your krazy klaims and akkusations, you will very soon move from being a kook to a kriminal.

  8. AJStrata says:

    Polarik,

    Where are those smoking credentials fool?

  9. Ray_in_Aus says:

    [Important new info for blog contributors]
    .

    Polarik has just mentioned on the Texasdarlin blog that the owner of the Decosta COLB doesn’t approve of the image being used for the Obama
    COLB discussion.
    .

    “The geneology COLB image (whose owner
    is pissed that people are using her mother’s
    COLB) depicts a less than full-size COLB”

  10. Ray_in_Aus says:

    [Politifact -- (St.Petersburg Times, Florida)]

    “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo said June 13, 2008, after we e-mailed her our copy.”

  11. Ray_in_Aus says:

    A higher quality scan of the DeCosta COLB has now been placed on the genealogy website.
    http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/showmedia.php?mediaID=169

  12. dave m says:

    So I guess nobody wants to talk about the dual citizenship problem.
    http://texasdarlin.blogspot.com have interestingly prepared arguments
    that don’t depend on whether the net version of a birth document is
    real or forged.
    We’ll see.
    Hillary is retaining her delegates for some reason.

    Hey Ray, saw your letter over at the texasdarlin site
    it’s in the hate mail section.

  13. dave m says:

    Sorry, I gave the link inaccurately,
    should have been http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com

    Their most recent conclusion is that Obama has two Hawaiian
    birth certificates, the original in the name of BHO, is now sealed
    and he was issued a new one under the name Barry Soetoro as
    a result of his adoption to an Indonesian father and taking up
    of Indonesian citizenship. (which they think he stil has)

    Suggested that if Obama now requests the Hawaiian authorities
    to issue paperwork, that will come in the name of Barry Soetoro.
    No mechanism exists to unseal the sealed original.

    Which I guess is why he’s keeping shtum.

  14. Ray_in_Aus says:

    dave m wrote:

    So I guess nobody wants to talk about the dual citizenship problem.
    http://texasdarlin.blogspot.com have interestingly prepared arguments that don’t depend on whether the net version of a birth document is real or forged

    There is an immense amount of nonsense on the TD blog. Virtually every message that has been posted there during the last few weeks is wrong.

    Obama went to Indonesia AFTER he was five so he couldn’t have been adopted or made an Indonesian citizen – so that’s just one more of TD’s long list of silly or defamatory fabrications.

    Obama returned from Indonesia on his U.S. passport in 1971 and took great pride in telling his young school friends about it during the following years – and they have already provided evidence of that.

    In any case, even if Obama DID have citizenship under some other country’s laws it is not recognised under U.S. law. Hell, even Rupert Murdoch had to denounce his Australian citizenship to become an American citizen for his money-making activities – so a person simply CANNOT have dual citizenship in the U.S.

  15. Ray_in_Aus says:

    dave m wrote:

    Sorry, I gave the link inaccurately,
    should have been http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com
    .

    Their most recent conclusion is that Obama has two Hawaiian
    birth certificates, the original in the name of BHO, is now sealed
    and he was issued a new one under the name Barry Soetoro as
    a result of his adoption to an Indonesian father and taking up
    of Indonesian citizenship. (which they think he still has)

    .

    Well what are you panicking about? If Obama has been making false declarations for decades about his surname AND presenting the wrong birth certificate, then he will go to the Big House and McCain will go to the White House.

  16. Ray_in_Aus says:

    dave m,

    If you don’t want Obama to sneak in to the White House, all you have to do is dive down to your local police station and report him for making false declarations for decades. If they want proof – tell ‘em that one of the darlings of Texas has all the proof they need and that she would be very happy to shoot her mouth off to convict him.

  17. dave m says:

    I think, ACTUALLY, you are the one wot is panicking.

    I just think it’s jolly interesting.
    You state with some indignation: “you can’t have dual
    nationality in the USA??”
    Well, now you can, the Supreme Court ruled a few years ago
    that American citizenship cannot be lost simply by taking citizenship
    in another country.
    That is another kettle of fish however, from satisfying the Constitution’s
    Article II phrasing “natural born citizen”. A big kettle of very smelly fish.
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalites-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-1/
    has the whole lawyer type arguments about satisfying Article II.
    I think if we need to rely on a Supreme Court challenge to get rid of Obama,
    it would come too late – though by all means the case should be filed.
    There is a simpler test.
    There will be an election.
    Let all the facts come out.
    When Obama stood in front of the German victory column and
    said he was a citizen of the world, let it be known that he is still
    a citizen of Indonesia.
    Let it be known that Obama is being economical with the truth about
    the reasons he will not show a paper COLB.
    Let it be known what Obama’s real name is : Barry Soetoro Ma.
    Let it be known why he decided to cover these things up.

    In Alaska, at this moment, a Republican senator is in trouble for
    allegedly allowing an oil company to give him home improvements
    at his house and some new cars. As always, news pundits intone
    “it’s not the crime – it’s the cover-up”.

    Does this apply to Obama?

  18. Ray_in_Aus says:

    dave m wrote:

    I think, ACTUALLY, you are the one wot is panicking.
    .

    After the way things have evolved recently, I don’t care who wins from here in Australia. I’ve recently figured that while a high percentage of citizens in the U.S. retain a collective wish to keep handing out free democracy to the remaining countries on the planet, then they may as well get on with it. To do anything else would leave the country divided – so until an overwhelming majority wants to change the whole national mentality, then it’s best left alone because there would be too much opposition to drastic changes.

  19. Ray_in_Aus says:

    dave m wrote:

    Well, now you can, the Supreme Court ruled a few years ago that American citizenship cannot be lost simply by taking citizenship in another country.
    .

    That couldn’t apply to Obama anyway, because he wasn’t old enough to take citizenship when he was in Indonesia.
    .

    That is another kettle of fish however, from satisfying the Constitution’s Article II phrasing “natural born citizen”. A big kettle of very smelly fish.
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalites-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-1/
    has the whole lawyer type arguments about satisfying Article II.

    .

    If it takes a 3-part word salad from some guy (who raises the possibility in the middle of it that he might be crazy) then there’s no hope. Geez, where does Texasdarlin get these cartoony characters from!