Jul 30 2008
Record Setting Month Of Security In Iraq
July 2008 is going to shatter all previous records for peace and security in Iraq if the standard statistics for violence in that country hold through tomorrow. As of today the previous record low levels for US and Allied troop deaths in Iraq has been 19 in May 2008 and 20 in February 2004. July has only 11 to date.
More importantly, of those 11 only 7 were from hostile fire. In May 2008 17 of those US/Allied deaths were due to hostile fire. That is a 50% reduction in hostile-fire deaths from the lowest record month on the books in May. For further comparison, in July 2007 when Obama was claiming The Surge would never work the US/Allied death’s due to hostile fire were 65 out of 79 deaths. That is a 89% reduction in violence.Â
This is victory folks – mission accomplished
Do you have any information on Iraqi losses? Civilian losses and military? I would expect that these are more uneven.
For example, the Iraqi army has launched a new offensive, so I would expect to see at least a modest spike in Iraqi military losses. And as the fighting is in the cities, civilian losses will occur, no matter how expert they are at avoiding them.
What do civilian losses have to do with winning the war?
If the remnants of the dregs of the scum hide amongst civilians,
there may well be civilian losses. Regrettable? sure. Militarily
significant? No. Not unless we let the apologists for terror invoke the
tome of “civilian losses” as some sort of token against victory.
We all got past that one. We won. It’s over dude.
50 murders a day? Yeah in South Africa. Mandela’s quagmire.
You are quite correct in that civilian losses are not militarly important. However, seeing as the fighting is taking place within the cities, civilian losses in addition to military losses can give us a better idea of how much and how intense the actual fighting is.
I disagree with you about this war being over. Even if Iraq becomes a shining example of democracy, the ideology of our enemy is far to entrenched for this to be but the first step.
nice picture…it’s what five years old? by the stated goals of the man in that picture the 18 month long 20% troop escalation, that ended with more boots on the ground than it started with, was not a success. but don’t let facts stand in your way.
The same site as a tally for Iraqi civilian and armed forces casualties. It is also at an all time low. I cannot get to the site but there is a table lower down, which I assume has links to the details per month where they differentiate the two classes.
One of the key reasons we are there is for the Iraqi people to prosper. The key reason AL Qaeda is there is to destroy Iraq and the Iraqi people, that and the obvious humanitarian reasons is why civilians must be protected.
AJ
Keep your fingers crossed with the push into Diyala Province which started yesterday.
Initial reports were saying 30K Iraq troops and 10K American but I am seeing numbers in the press of 50K Iraq troops were committed to the clearing.
So, the overall idea was to improve the Iraqi situation from when Saddam was the leader, right? I mean, that was the desired result?
So, can we compare Iraqi deaths over the past 12 months to the 12 months before the war began (2/28/2002-3/1/2003)?
How does that make us look?
No, the overall idea was to get rid of Saddam Hussein,
destroy his ability to build chem bio nuclear weapons,
destroy the stockpile of chem bio weapons,
and attract islamic terrorists into a killing ground and kill them.
We accomplished three out of four of those goals.
Saddam Hussein is no more. Only western liberals cry for him.
His nuclear facilities outsourced to Libya are busted, and the last
of the Uranium yellowcake has now been removed from that country.
Chemical weapons experts have been rounded up and there is no
longer any factories waiting for the order that can now turn out the
tons of VX overnight.
We hesitated and lost the moment on destroying the chem/bio
stockpile. While France delayed the UN resolution that would
have followed 1441, we wasted several weeks, and all the chemical
weapons were moved in a massive road and air convoy to
Syria, where they remain to this day. The Russians helped with
that move. President Bush knows exactly where the weapons
are stored but has not given orders to bomb them, most likely
because conventional bombs could not be trusted to completely
destroy the toxins and would therefore just disperse large clouds
to kill people downwind. The job requires a tactical nuclear warhead
for safety, and the President has decided not to cross that line,
at least for now.
And finally, we have killed an awful lot of terrorists, and more importantly,
the people who had to live with them now know what they truly are,
and hate them for that. The only Al-Qaeda lovers that remain are
liberals i n the West, who think they’re safe anyways. There’s
a report over at Pat Dollard’s site today claiming that the leadership
of Al-Qaeda In Iraq have fled the country, for the safety of Pakistan.
3 out of 4 isn’t too bad. Actually more like 3.5 out of 4.
Everybody who tries to read the tea leaves on matters middle east
are predicting another large war there towards the end of this year,
involving Iran, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, and to some extent us. We
are not going to start it, but that’s about all I know. The chem
weapon stockpile may get finished off during those hostilities.
“Improving the situation” is not a military goal. It’s what the Iraqis
can start to do now that they have learned that it is their country,
they are free if they want to be, and it’s up to them to build. They
are starting to do that.
I’d say Mission Accomplished.