Aug 02 2008
What Is It With Black Men And White Women??
I don’t get this whole race thing, since I know skin pigment levels have nothing to do with intellect, heart, spirit, etc. Â But add to that gap another issue I don’t get – what is this connection between black men and gorgeous white women? Â Put the two together and people start getting all angry and upset. Check out one black liberal’s attempt at addressing this mythology:
Gee, I wonder why, if you have a black man running for high public office — say, Barack Obama or Harold Ford — the opposition feels compelled to run low-life political ads featuring tacky, sexually provocative white women who have no connection whatsoever to the black male candidates.
Uh – because the McCain campaign wanted to imply they all have the brain wattage of your typical celebrity?
Look popularity is not necessarily a sign of genius (in fact I would wager there is a negative correlation there). That is not being lost on all us average folks without the stunning looks. Â Still, what is it about blonde sex pots that causes the testosterone to flow, or the tribal jealousies to flair? Bob Hebert seems truly bothered by the idea that “tacky, sexually provocative white women” are being connected to Obama. Â Was it because they were sexy or ditzy? Â
That is the question – and I guess the answer goes to whether the ad is racist or not. If we were looking for the lowest common denominator being IQ then it has nothing to do with race (since all the low scorers in the ad are white). But if it was because they were sexy white women then … – who cares?
You know how many mixed race couples we have in the US? Â Tons! Â And I have to note all the ones here in my neighborhood are white husbands and black wives (which I suspect is due to how the black man has – in general – been running out on family responsibilities over the last few decades). Personally, given our mixed race society this attempt to create racism out of thin air just makes those making the claims look stupid. Especially to the young voters who don’t see race at all anymore.
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I thought I’d try a different colour after the white one didn’t work out. It was funny when I bumped into my teenage son on the street the day after we moved in together a few decades ago.
He said “What’s happen’n Dad?”
I said “Err, um, look, before I tell you – are you racist by any chance?’
He said “Oh, not really – why?”
So I told him.
If you watch the beginning of the video and manage to see something racist with the sequence with Spears, Hilton and Obama .. go seek help .. you are a racist.
Meanwhile, Hiliary must be heart-broken that somehow she doesn’t count.
They are just trying to change the message of the ad. To these guys everything is about race.
I think it is about unearned celebrity. Vacuous, media driven gawkers.
I find it interesting to take a single known story that I saw live or a video of with my own two eyes and then check the spectrum of blogs and MSM sites to see how it gets portrayed.
Prisms baby Prisms.
once you go black, you never go back
I don’t get this whole race thing, since I know skin pigment levels have nothing to do with intellect
Race is, obviously, not just about skin pigment. It is about genetics. There is a very strong correlation between IQ levels and genetic background. (Though some PC flatearthers still exist). The median IQ level for a black in the United States is a full standard deviation below that of a white American. That is why whites, generally speaking, will always succeed more than blacks. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest median IQ level of any ethny and that, not some Jewish conspiracy, explains their overrepresentation at elite levels.
Personally, given our mixed race society this attempt to create racism out of thin air just makes those making the claims look stupid. Especially to the young voters who don’t see race at all anymore.
Identity politics is on the rise. Hispanics will eventually be as racially aware as black America (currently at 90% for black Obama 1% for white McCain). Obama’s brilliant success in the primaries is largely due to race. Blacks vote overwhelmingly for him due to racial solidarity and hatred of whites. White liberals also vote for him because he is black and they seem to hate white middle America. If he were white would there be such a cult of personality around him?
Just this past week there were reports in the media about Asians being “fed up” being ignored. They are now making greater efforts at ethnically motivated lobbying.
Ethnocentric politics is clearly the future. Those who don’t join in will lose out.
From FREEREPUBLIC” should read the whole thing….it tells the way black men think.
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By BOB HERBERT
Published: August 2, 2008
Gee, I wonder why, if you have a black man running for high public office — say, Barack Obama or Harold Ford — the opposition feels compelled to run low-life political ads featuring tacky, sexually provocative white women who have no connection whatsoever to the black male candidates.
He goes on the say the white female, without undies, scares whitey into not voting for a black man.
It’s been interesting to listen/watch/read the back and forth on whether Britney/Paris is same subliminal message as the ‘call me’ former ‘Bunny’ in the Harold Ford (single male) ad.
I did not see it that way because Britney/Paris were still photos at the beginning of the ad, and clearly symbolic of vacuous celebrity, something that, for example, George Clooney or Brangelina do NOT symbolize: they are celebrities of real substance, whether you agree with them or not. (Angelina is publicly still undecided voter)
I just think McCain’s campaign couldn’t come up with an instantly recognizable vacuous male celebrity for what was an ad designed to get lots of free cable news air time (success), change the dialog away from Obama’s foreign trip (success), and try to build on the real uncertainty many voters have about Obama as Commander-in-Chief.
The voters who still harbor that ‘black man/white woman’ fear were never going to vote for Obama anyway because Obama is the child of that fear made real.
Criticism and/or satire on Obama is not always about race.
postscript: Based on the personal ad that Bob Herbert ran in New York magazine in 1992 (I am sure I have a copy of it somewhere), I am surprised he can still find any memory of outrage over the ‘black man/white woman’ fear he claims to see everywhere in his Aug 1 op-ed. Maybe he should go visit Kofi Annan for counsel on how to get over it…
White womens is da Black Man’s Kryptonite!
go rent Undercover Brother for the whole story.
Here’s my question:
Brittney and Paris haven’t been “top world wide celebrities” in.. what 3 or 4 years now. They’ve been surpassed by dozens of names since then.
So, what made the McCain explicity pick *those two* as the images for this commercial?
Why not, I don’t know – Will Smith, who’s often called the biggest movie star in the world? Why not Christian Bale, whose movie just made $300M in two weeks? Why not the last American Idol winner? Why not Jay-Z? Why not Tom Hanks, or Oprah, or Beyonce, or Angelina Jolie?
Why did they pick those two single, promiscuous, white females for this spot, when they had such a wide selection to choose from?
breschau….because they draw lots of ink, have recognizable names and i can’t think of what else. Because Obama’s handlers have set the stage over and over again, here and overseas, written grandiose words and he says nothing. Like the girls he’s an empty suit. His main claim to fame at the moment is a great smile, youth, and did you know he is black! Yes we all know he is black and that is a change, and it gives us hope that one day a man or woman with real content will compete for the most complicated, difficult, prestigious job in the world.
Jules Roy wrote
Race is, obviously, not just about skin pigment. It is about genetics. There is a very strong correlation between IQ levels and genetic background. (Though some PC flatearthers still exist). The median IQ level for a black in the United States is a full standard deviation below that of a white American. That is why whites, generally speaking, will always succeed more than blacks. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest median IQ level of any ethny and that, not some Jewish conspiracy, explains their overrepresentation at elite levels
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All of that is just urban myth based on non-replicated (not very scientific scientific) studies. Did you hear the one about Charlton Heston wearing a digital watch in Ben Hur?
I think Breschau was the crying Britney fan of youtube fame.
Will Smith is *not* appropriate at all, because Will Smith (unlike Obama) has actually DONE SOMETHING to earn his fame. Now I haven’t seen Hancock, and haven’t cared for his recent work, but he’s got some real solid acting credentials. (Gotta love the Men in Black duo)
Why Britney and Paris? Because all they ever did to get famous was to pose in front of cameras repeatedly and mouth vacuous platitutdes. (Okay, Britney cut all her hair off) Just like Obama.
Name one significant thing that (fill in the blank – Britney, Paris, Obama) has actually done besides pose. No one can.
Jules Roy,
Before you go off pretending you have a clue about genetics you better realize there are a lot of BS studies out there special made for the naive.
There are no major genetic differences between Africans and Europeans other than skin pigmentation and a few other well known items (mostly related to diseases). The rest is cultural and those traits that were preferred in the culture. Some cultures are better athletes, etc because those traits have been selected over generations.
But they are subtle emphasis on generic aspects of the genome. These are not genetic ‘differences’, purely speaking. The propensity for sickle cell anemia in blacks is a genetic difference. IQ levels are not because the potential is the same across the races. Some just exercise that potential more than others.
About 10 years ago in the north of Australia at a school with a lot of White and tribal Aboriginal children, someone conducted a type of IQ study and found that there was a marked difference between the races when it came to boys recalling manufactured items like toy cars and natural items like rocks.
“Some just exercise that potential more than others.”
Absolutely and it shows up in IQ tests, in which whites ‘on the average’ test higher, and in physical feats, in which blacks ‘on the average’ test higher.
proving that evolution is, in fact, evolutionary.
I thought that putting Obama in the same video as Britney
was incredibly insulting – to Britney.
Redteam wrote:
[AJS]: “Some just exercise that potential more than others.â€
Absolutely and it shows up in IQ tests, in which whites ‘on the average’ test higher, and in physical feats, in which blacks ‘on the average’ test higher. proving that evolution is, in fact, evolutionary.
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IQ tests are all a bit of a joke anyway. People are good at what they are interested in, or have experience with, and IQ tests only cover a miniscule fraction of problem-solving or pattern recognition questions. Anyone who attaches great importance to IQ tests couldn’t possibly have a high IQ or they are liars. There’s no alternatives.
Ray(tard)
“IQ tests are all a bit of a joke anyway. People are good at what they are interested in, or have experience with, and IQ tests only cover a miniscule fraction of problem-solving or pattern recognition questions. Anyone who attaches great importance to IQ tests couldn’t possibly have a high IQ or they are liars. There’s no alternatives.”
You are a joke. People with high IQ’s make hi scores on IQ tests, and vice versa. That theory about “”People are good at what they are interested in, or have experience with, “”
has zero to do with IQ tests and results.
People with excellent mechanical aptitude do very well on mechanical aptitude tests.
“”Anyone who attaches great importance to IQ tests “” believing that IQ tests accurately measure IQ has nothing to do with attaching any importance to them.
Now it’s clear to me where the name Ray(tard) came from.