Oh, please. He disavowed the actions of a defunct criminal organization, but not Bill ‘my friend and mentor’ Ayers by name. The same guy that is quoted in the story, ‘he told the New York Times in September 2001, “I don’t regret setting bombs…I feel we didn’t do enough.”‘ And this was after doing this: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5390. Events of forty years ago? He never denouced the man who still honors the group and their actions 40 years later!

Obama, on the other hand, to THIS DAY has never seen anything wrong with William Ayers, and has never denounced him.

He hasn’t?

“Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.”

You know, it’s one thing that you just couldn’t bring yourself to agree with me on something so obvious and so minor, but which wasn’t a slam of the Democratic candidate (so all of you partisan hacks just couldn’t bear to actually do it). But it’s quite another to just make up blatant lies about it.

Honestly, I can’t believe you all fell for that.

Obama, on the other hand, to THIS DAY has never seen anything wrong with William Ayers, and has never denounced him.

He hasn’t?

“Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.”

You know, it’s one thing that you just couldn’t bring yourself to agree with me on something so obvious and so minor, but which wasn’t a slam of the Democratic candidate (so all of you partisan hacks just couldn’t bear to actually do it). But it’s quite another to just make up blatant lies about it.

Honestly, I can’t believe you all fell for that.

Obama, on the other hand, to THIS DAY has never seen anything wrong with William Ayers, and has never denounced him.

O RLY?

“Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.”

You just couldn’t do it, could you? You couldn’t make one single non-partisan comment on something so freaking obvious about Obama. I wasn’t even asking you all to say something nice, I was just asking you to agree on something that wasn’t a slam of the Democratic candidate – and not one of you could do it.

Honestly – that’s pathetic.

Obama, on the other hand, to THIS DAY has never seen anything wrong with William Ayers, and has never denounced him. William Ayers was our own home-grown Bin Laden in the early 70′s; that connection alone tells me that Obama is the most dangerously naive candidate I have ever seen run for president in my life. With that as an example of his vaunted “judgment”, he isn’t fit to serve on the Podunk city council.

i watched a documentry about it that anyone could find on Google Video just the other day

Those people are terrorists just as much as Al Qaeda. That Obama could tolerate them… and probably consider them to be his mentors is dangerous

Obama was not a cadet when he served on the board of the Woods Fund in Chicago. He was doing what he had to do to garner support in that part of Chicago, after all he had big plans. He needed a spring board. I doubt that Obama believes half that stuff himself. He was just milking it.

That’s a very healthy attitude. And yes, I agree McCain’s academics shouldn’t matter that much: he graduated, he served, bully for him. He has admitted he was rather rebellious when he was young, and good for him: I’d certainly hate for someone to judge me now by actions I took when I was in my late teens or early 20′s.

So, if we can admit that being “young” is a good reason for not judging someone, can we also make the statement that serving on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago with William Ayers years ago doesn’t necessarily mean that a person supports everything Ayers has ever done? I mean – we are trying to be reasonable here, right?

And if we can agree on that – why did so many right-leaning websites make such a big deal of that months ago?

The real Dem plan as stated by them recently is FORCED CONSERVATION by inflated gas prices due to no recovery, no refining by whatever means they can come up with to block it.

Then only gov’t workers and rich will travel at will as the ignorant masses will be forced to curtail driving to survive.

They are too dumb or don’t care that their plan drives the economy into a recession bordering on depression due to increased prices for everything and the inability of many people to drive to jobs.

Perhaps this driving down of the economy is also the plan to bring about their socialist utopia.

The condescending Barrack Hussein Obama is now openly calling those who disagree with him ignorant.

In any debate when you have to resort to name calling you have lost the argument.

I hope and believe the American people are smarter than to fall for this candidate that refuses to level with them on who he really is.

For a guy who regurgitates the party line like a DNC staffer you are on thin ice talking about someone else doing talking points.

This is from Power Line :

Barack Obama’s suggestion that we can’t drill our way out of the current energy shortage, but we can solve the problem through tire inflation, has been the source of much hilarity. We did the math here, and found that it would take approximately 11,308 years of tire inflation to equal the energy we can obtain by developing our own petroleum resources.

Now, remarkably, Time magazine has rushed to the defense of its candidate, arguing that “Obama is right.”

The author of the article, Michael Grunwald, mixes apple-and-orange statistics to try to create the false impression that there is more to be gained by inflating tires than through offshore drilling:

The Bush Administration estimates that expanded offshore drilling could increase oil production by 200,000 bbl. per day by 2030. We use about 20 million bbl. per day, so that would meet about 1% of our demand two decades from now. Meanwhile, efficiency experts say that keeping tires inflated can improve gas mileage 3%, and regular maintenance can add another 4%. Many drivers already follow their advice, but if everyone did, we could immediately reduce demand several percentage points. In other words: Obama is right.

Grunwald is trying, through sleight of hand, to conceal certain basic facts: Obama said that tire inflation could save energy equal to “all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling,” not just the outer continental shelf; the outer continental shelf, ANWR and Rocky Mountain oil shale contain an estimated one trillion, 28 billion barrels of oil–an estimate that is undoubtedly low–while the maximum savings that could be attained through tire inflation and tuneups, assuming that every single vehicle in America is driving around with semi-flat tires and has never had a tuneup, is a mere 420 million barrels per year.

But there are more devious errors lurking behind Time’s claim that “Obama is right.” Notice the curious formula that Grunwald uses to quantify the energy potential of the outer continental shelf:

The Bush administration estimates that expanded offshore drilling could increase oil production by 200,000 bbl. [barrels] per day by 2030.

That equates to 73,000,000 barrels per year. Which may sound like a lot, but amounts to only four-tenths of one percent of the OCS’s 18 billion barrels. Further, why is Time not only putting out an absurdly low number, but also talking about the year 2030? The implication seems to be that the oil wouldn’t flow until then, or maybe wouldn’t peak until then, but such a claim would be patently false.

To get to the bottom of the puzzle, I tracked down the source of the statistic that Grunwald attributes to the “Bush administration.” I’m pretty sure this is it: the Annual Energy Outlook 2007 with Projections to 2030, as published by the Energy Information Administration.

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As you can see, the projected recovery from OCS drilling in 2030 is around 200,000 barrels per day. EIA projects recovery to begin around 2018, but as you can see from the graph, EIA projected that only a tiny percentage of the 18 billion barrels (minimum) under the OCS would be recovered.

The explanation, obviously, lies in the set of assumptions used by the EIA in creating its forecast. The forecast was not based on the amount of oil that the OCS actually contains, it was based on the amount that was predicted to be economically remunerative at the then-prevailing price of oil. The EIA report makes this explicit:

Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.

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And graduates of the Service Academies have a much higher level of numeracy than those of the Ivys.

You need to stop reciting GOP talking points and actually research the issue. Obama never said tire inflation will solve the world’s energy problems. In fact, tire pressure is only one small part of the new energy plan he announced. Here is a link to his plan to prove my point (not that I expect you to actually read it). http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/factsheet_energy_speech_080308.pdf. One can certainly take issue with various aspects of his plan, but suggesting that tire pressure is the only plan he has or is even a major element of it is just ignoring reality because you don’t want to admit that maybe Obama was raising a legitimate issue and McCain was premature in criticizing him. Really people, is it that hard to admit every once in a while that maybe McCain and/or you were wrong on an issue when it is so obvious to the rest of us?

And no Terrye, Obama is not basing his position about off-shore oil production on some “old study”. It is based on the 2007 EIA annual report prepared by Bush’s own Department of Energy. Here is a link to the report (which I provided yesterday as well) – http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/archive/aeo07/issues.html.
The information on the timing and amount of production for off-shore drilling in the OSC areas is toward the middle, under the “Impacts of Increased Access to Oil and Natural Gas Resources in the Lower 48 Federal Outer Continental Shelf” heading. If you look at the projected production numbers and compare to our current oil consumption rates, it turns out that at peak production (2030) the total of all this off-shore drilling will supply only 1% of our current domestic consumption. This total amount is less than what Bush’s own agency report concluded would be the case if everyone properly inflated their tires. This is the most recent EIA study on this issue. The 2008 annual report (issued June 2008) does not provide any updates or corrections to the 2007 conclusions, which you presume it would have if you were right. Check it out and educate yourself.

If so many things have changed and that report is no longer valid, I’m sure you can provide plenty of credible sources to support your position. So go ahead, have at it. I can’t wait to see what you come up with (I’m guessing another conservative blog with rants similar to yours).

As for the grade issue – come on, you people are so serious. Don’t you have a sense of humor? I could care less about either candidiates scholastic achievements. I agree – it is not a contest about who is “smarter” or got better grades. They are both obviously bright and capable people by the mere fact that they are one step away from being POTUS. I simply added the bottom 10% comment to make fun of AJ’s rant about Ivy League schools.

We have learned your the biggest Obidiot of them all! Thanks for showing by example what a wasted education can result in.

Cheers, AJStrata