Sep 26 2008
Obama’s “Change”: Gestapo Tactics Against Critics
The Obama campaign is using a new tactic to win the public debate – threaten and intimidate anyone who wants to debate him:
St. Louis and Missouri Democrat sheriffs and top prosecutors are planning to go after anyone who makes false statements against Obama during his campaign. This is so one sided I can’t even begin to describe how wrong this agenda is.Â
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KMOV aired a story last night, that stated that St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, both Obama supporters, are threatening to bring criminal libel charges against anyone who levels what turns out to be false criticisms of their chosen candidate for President.
More here. In political debate we all know truth is in the eye of the supporter. False criticism would include claiming Obama was working to surrender Iraq to al-Qaeda when he resisted The Surge. It would be considered a lie by many blinded by Bush Derangement Syrndrome that to say Obama was williing to surender Iraq at any cost.
There are no thought or debtate police in this country. The news media has walked away from its role as unbiased and objective observer. Now it is completely in the tank for Obama. That’s bad enough. But to have law enforcement officers claim they will enforce libel laws on someone elses behalf? That is the end of free speech and the beginning of some variant of fascism, socialism or communism.
This act alone should be enough to tell the Democrats to go to hell, we are voting the other way – until of course it becomes illegal to say such a thing in public.
Yes, I understand that it probably would be quite frightening to Republicans that there could be repercussions for lying. Whatever shall you do now?
Breschau, you IDIOT. Do the First Amendment and the right to free speech mean nothing to you AT ALL?
AJ, I must say that this has been an amazing electoral season simply because we get to witness the moralizing Left hurl away their masks with such enthusiasm. They DON’T believe that women should get the same opportunities as men, and as both Breschau and Barack Obama have demonstrated, they DON’T believe in free speech — and it’s even possible that this sort of thing might become clear, right before the election, even to people who don’t follow politics.
Some one in Missouri (I don’t live there) needs to contact the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, and complain about this as intimidation.
Frankly, I don’t think they will do much, but a complaint needs to be filed.
[…] Aj Strata: The news media has walked away from its role as unbiased and objective observer. Now it is completely in the tank for Obama. That’s bad enough. But to have law enforcement officers claim they will enforce libel laws on someone elses behalf? That is the end of free speech and the beginning of some variant of fascism, socialism or communism. […]
AJ, you sound surprised. The Left has been doing this for the last five years…recollect that the same sort of intimidation was a feature of the Kerry campaign.
Although Obama is FAR worse in this regard. And Heaven help us if he gets elected. Freedoms that we used to take for granted, such as free speech, will become distant memories.
breschau, is back. How’s the weather there in Scotland?
I’m not an expert on the subject, but i believe libel is a civil deal. If you think someone libels you, you file a civil suit against them. I don’t believe police enforce libel laws. I may be wrong on this, but I would be surprised.
I read this on Wiki:
In many legal systems, adverse public statements about legal citizens presented as fact must be proven false to be defamatory or slanderous/libel. Proving adverse, public character statements to be true is often the best defense against a prosecution for libel and/or defamation. Statements of opinion that cannot be proven true or false will likely need to apply some other kind of defense. The use of the defense of justification has dangers, however; if the defendant libels the plaintiff and then runs the defense of truth and fails, he may be said to have aggravated the harm.
Another important aspect of defamation is the difference between fact and opinion. Statements made as “facts” are frequently actionable defamation. Statements of opinion or pure opinion are not actionable. In order to win damages in a libel case, the plaintiff must first show that the statements were “statements of fact or mixed statements of opinion and fact” and second that these statements were false. Conversely, a typical defense to defamation is that the statements are opinion. One of the major tests to distinguish whether a statement is fact or opinion is whether the statement can be proved true or false in a court of law. If the statement can be proved true or false, then, on that basis, the case will be heard by a jury to determine whether it is true or false. If the statement cannot be proved true or false, the court may dismiss the libel case without it ever going to a jury to find facts in the case.
there’s lots more, but I don’t think we really have to worry about the ‘truth police’ running around arresting anyone.
Wow. Does Sarah Palin have a bunch of criminal slander lawsuits she can file! One of Saul Alinsky’s methods was to file lawsuits because most people , corps. and institution don’t have the money to fight a lawsuit whether it is legitimate or not. Look at how many citys have caved to the ACLU on religous challenges. No Christmas Decorations in public bldgs. no Christmas or Christmas carols in schools (but Ramadan is Ok) One of the reasons the ACLU has caused so much Havoc is because most cities can’t afford to spend the money to fight them so the cave.
About this $600 million for ACORN in the bailout bill. ACORN is nothing more than an anti American, Anti captalist, organization that seeks to “Unite with other dissident organizatins and empower them to overthrow the govt.” The Dems love them because they work hand in glove with them and share the same goals. For American taxpayers to be required to pay for our own destruction is beyond the pale. Every Congressman and Senator who votes for this bill with this giveaway to fund this treasonous organization should have his or her name plastered all over the internet, news papers and anywhere else it can be publicized. Surely when the voters realize who is sellign them out they will wake up and set things right. Right now, Lindsay Graham is the only voice speaking out about it. Everyone needs to get on this bandwagon. What with all the voter regisration fraud and other illegal activiities ACORN is involved in surely if this doesn’t wake people up nothing will.
Sounds like a perfect opportunity to level the most devastating TRUE charges, and dare these idiots to prosecute.
Maybe parade a sign in front of the sheriff’s office declaring that Obama’s kinsman and close political ally Raila Odinga has been outed by Kenyan Muslim leaders to be not just a secret Muslim, but a secret Islamofascist.
Odinga calls himself an Anglican Christian, but signed a secret agreement with Muslim leaders (they decided to brag about it) where he first makes a profession of faith, declaring that Islam is the only true religion, then promises to impose Sharia law if elected.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg of what is not being reported about Obama. Here is my post on the liklihood that Obama, like Odinga, is actually a secret Muslim.
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