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		<title>By: dave m</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6131/comment-page-1#comment-388725</link>
		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheer up AJ!
Even if Obama is elected, he won&#039;t survive through his first term,
well, unless he spends no time in DC.
DC and NYC will be the main two targets of Iranian nukes,
they will be guaranteed with an Obama Presidency.
They&#039;ll just be delivered by stealth, on small yachts that enter NY harbor 
or sail up the Potomac. 
I suppose there&#039;s some chance our covert services will stop them,
er, no there isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheer up AJ!<br />
Even if Obama is elected, he won&#8217;t survive through his first term,<br />
well, unless he spends no time in DC.<br />
DC and NYC will be the main two targets of Iranian nukes,<br />
they will be guaranteed with an Obama Presidency.<br />
They&#8217;ll just be delivered by stealth, on small yachts that enter NY harbor<br />
or sail up the Potomac.<br />
I suppose there&#8217;s some chance our covert services will stop them,<br />
er, no there isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: momdear1</title>
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		<dc:creator>momdear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s Liberation theology, advocating Reparations for Slavery, and other way out &quot;get whitey&quot; plans are not being publicized. Obama has not said whether he still plans to make Whity pay reparations for slavery but he has advocated this in the not too distant past. Is he still for Affirmative action, although past affirmative action has reduced the number of white male college students to a fraction of what they used to be. 2/3 of all college students are now female. When you add in the minorities, there just aren&#039;t too many places left for white boys. .&quot; There has not been a training level job availabe for a young white man in the high paying tech trades in nearly 30 years. (I speak from personal knowledge being the mother of three simi literate graduates of the public education system who were all told &quot;You are the most qualified person who has applied but we are under a mandate to hire a minority&quot; One retrieved his application and went back two weeks later , marked his race Amer. Indian, and was hired immediately.) About the only way a white man  can get a job in this country today is to know someone who will hire him or make one for himself. 

I was actually told on one interactive website, &quot; I can&#039;t wait until all your whte A--es have been killed off or run out of the country, and this country become a bronze nation like it is supposed to be.&quot; This is not an uncommon experience. Community organizers, like Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson and their ilk have done nothing but  go into vulnerable areas and convince the people there that they have a grievance and somebody (white) owes them. With all these agitators working people up into a frenzy of hate I am surprised we don&#039;t have constant race riots in this country. Does anyone really think that electing someone like Obama, who&#039;s whole career has been devoted to working  people up into rages  and fomenting  ill feelings is going to change this country for the better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s Liberation theology, advocating Reparations for Slavery, and other way out &#8220;get whitey&#8221; plans are not being publicized. Obama has not said whether he still plans to make Whity pay reparations for slavery but he has advocated this in the not too distant past. Is he still for Affirmative action, although past affirmative action has reduced the number of white male college students to a fraction of what they used to be. 2/3 of all college students are now female. When you add in the minorities, there just aren&#8217;t too many places left for white boys. .&#8221; There has not been a training level job availabe for a young white man in the high paying tech trades in nearly 30 years. (I speak from personal knowledge being the mother of three simi literate graduates of the public education system who were all told &#8220;You are the most qualified person who has applied but we are under a mandate to hire a minority&#8221; One retrieved his application and went back two weeks later , marked his race Amer. Indian, and was hired immediately.) About the only way a white man  can get a job in this country today is to know someone who will hire him or make one for himself. </p>
<p>I was actually told on one interactive website, &#8221; I can&#8217;t wait until all your whte A&#8211;es have been killed off or run out of the country, and this country become a bronze nation like it is supposed to be.&#8221; This is not an uncommon experience. Community organizers, like Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson and their ilk have done nothing but  go into vulnerable areas and convince the people there that they have a grievance and somebody (white) owes them. With all these agitators working people up into a frenzy of hate I am surprised we don&#8217;t have constant race riots in this country. Does anyone really think that electing someone like Obama, who&#8217;s whole career has been devoted to working  people up into rages  and fomenting  ill feelings is going to change this country for the better?</p>
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		<title>By: Cepik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cepik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,

We knew this was going to be an uphill battle from the start, but it is far, far from over.  

Hey AJ, do you think the reason they are oversampling the Dems is because they are trying to offset the PUMAs?  If that is the case, how do we know they are talking to the PUMAs and not the party rank and file?  Any other ideas of why they might be oversampling?

I&#039;m with you BrownGreenGold, lets keep fighting the good fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>We knew this was going to be an uphill battle from the start, but it is far, far from over.  </p>
<p>Hey AJ, do you think the reason they are oversampling the Dems is because they are trying to offset the PUMAs?  If that is the case, how do we know they are talking to the PUMAs and not the party rank and file?  Any other ideas of why they might be oversampling?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you BrownGreenGold, lets keep fighting the good fight!</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6131/comment-page-1#comment-388468</link>
		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if obama wins I won&#039;t feel so bad about the Great Depression we&#039;re headed into.   We&#039;ll deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if obama wins I won&#8217;t feel so bad about the Great Depression we&#8217;re headed into.   We&#8217;ll deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Legrand's Pink Flamingo Bar</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6131/comment-page-1#comment-388460</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Legrand's Pink Flamingo Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;America&#8217;s Darkest Days May Be Ahead Of It&#8230;AJ over at Strata-Sphere gets it!...&lt;/strong&gt;

Obama must be defeated&#8230;nothing less will do. 
The Strata-Sphere &#187; America&#8217;s Darkest Days May Be Ahead Of It &#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>America&rsquo;s Darkest Days May Be Ahead Of It&#8230;AJ over at Strata-Sphere gets it!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Obama must be defeated&#8230;nothing less will do.<br />
The Strata-Sphere &#187; America&#8217;s Darkest Days May Be Ahead Of It &nbsp;<br />
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		<title>By: PierreLegrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>PierreLegrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have not read this American Thinker piece then I highly recommend it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

I would ally myself with the devil himself to defeat this man. I will not surrender my country to this bunch of Marxists...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have not read this American Thinker piece then I highly recommend it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html</a></p>
<p>I would ally myself with the devil himself to defeat this man. I will not surrender my country to this bunch of Marxists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, my point is that historically, minority candidates underperform the polls.  Always.  Typically between 2-6%.  It&#039;s not a statistical MOE thing, it&#039;s an unwillingness to tell pollsters you won&#039;t vote for the PC candidate. 

If the RCP average is to be trusted, and we assume a 4% Bradley Effect, then Obama has a very slight edge.

I&#039;m worried.  Very worried, as I know the stakes.  And I remember how optimistic we both were two years ago, and how that turned out.

But I haven&#039;t lost hope.  Not with more than five weeks left in the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, my point is that historically, minority candidates underperform the polls.  Always.  Typically between 2-6%.  It&#8217;s not a statistical MOE thing, it&#8217;s an unwillingness to tell pollsters you won&#8217;t vote for the PC candidate. </p>
<p>If the RCP average is to be trusted, and we assume a 4% Bradley Effect, then Obama has a very slight edge.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m worried.  Very worried, as I know the stakes.  And I remember how optimistic we both were two years ago, and how that turned out.</p>
<p>But I haven&#8217;t lost hope.  Not with more than five weeks left in the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6131/comment-page-1#comment-388453</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike M,

The polls are going to be off, it is only a question of how much. If they are really within the MoE things are not going well and the mega bullhorn of the liberal media is working.

If they are way off, and most people have shunned the political industrial complex and are keeping silent, then there could be a massive surprise wave rising out there.

I can see indications for both. But the former is more lilely than the latter. I was wrong about 2006, I was too optimistic. 

We may not know until voting day, and it may be a black day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike M,</p>
<p>The polls are going to be off, it is only a question of how much. If they are really within the MoE things are not going well and the mega bullhorn of the liberal media is working.</p>
<p>If they are way off, and most people have shunned the political industrial complex and are keeping silent, then there could be a massive surprise wave rising out there.</p>
<p>I can see indications for both. But the former is more lilely than the latter. I was wrong about 2006, I was too optimistic. </p>
<p>We may not know until voting day, and it may be a black day.</p>
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		<title>By: browngreengold</title>
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		<dc:creator>browngreengold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please AJ, don&#039;t go all wobbly on us.

The way I see this, and I&#039;ve talked to several people over the last couple of days that feel the same way, is these tactics just increase our determination to keep Obama from happening.

The intimidation of people on radio, the &quot;truth squads&quot;, the bracelet.  All of that makes me that much more determined to get out and support McCain.

I have never distributed yard signs, nor have I have I ever even donated to a campaign.  

Until now.

Before Palin was picked, my attitude was &quot;Meh.&quot;

Now, Palin is on the ticket and the left has gone stark raving mad.

I have become determined.

I have become obsessive about success.

I would crawl across burning coals or broken glass on Election Day if necessary.

This is my country, and I&#039;ll be damned if the Left is going to take it from me without a fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please AJ, don&#8217;t go all wobbly on us.</p>
<p>The way I see this, and I&#8217;ve talked to several people over the last couple of days that feel the same way, is these tactics just increase our determination to keep Obama from happening.</p>
<p>The intimidation of people on radio, the &#8220;truth squads&#8221;, the bracelet.  All of that makes me that much more determined to get out and support McCain.</p>
<p>I have never distributed yard signs, nor have I have I ever even donated to a campaign.  </p>
<p>Until now.</p>
<p>Before Palin was picked, my attitude was &#8220;Meh.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, Palin is on the ticket and the left has gone stark raving mad.</p>
<p>I have become determined.</p>
<p>I have become obsessive about success.</p>
<p>I would crawl across burning coals or broken glass on Election Day if necessary.</p>
<p>This is my country, and I&#8217;ll be damned if the Left is going to take it from me without a fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6131/comment-page-1#comment-388451</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked the Real Clear Politics page.  Obama up 4.3%.  But nobody is talking about the Bradley Effect.  Which runs 2-6%.  And all this in the middle of the financial crisis.  Which is getting patched up.  Close - but not hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked the Real Clear Politics page.  Obama up 4.3%.  But nobody is talking about the Bradley Effect.  Which runs 2-6%.  And all this in the middle of the financial crisis.  Which is getting patched up.  Close &#8211; but not hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&amp;streamingFormat=FLASH&amp;referralObject=3116908&amp;referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is the F&amp;F after the show show.. it was corny funny&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&amp;streamingFormat=FLASH&amp;referralObject=3116908&amp;referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749" rel="nofollow">This is the F&amp;F after the show show.. it was corny funny</a></p>
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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  agree with Rush L... we can&#039;t fall victim to a phychological warfare being done by the media against Republicans/Conservatives.


Part of the reason GOP lost in 06 was because so many peolpe internalized the media&#039;s drumbeat of &quot;Culture of Corruption&quot;.

The GOP Corruption is NOTHING compared to the Dem Corruption..

Of the two polls I&#039;ve seen that included thousands of peolpe, both of them had McCain wining the debate by a wide margin.

That was the Drudge Report and the AOL polls

[I know they&#039;re not scientific]



anyway.. dont let these poll discourage you.. i doubt their accuracy.

now one thing that is happening that I like is this story by Fox news

This is Fox and Friends from Sunday morning, &quot;Accountable Frank: Barney Frank changing his tune; should he be held accountable&quot;

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&amp;streamingFormat=FLASH&amp;referralObject=3116911&amp;referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749

They&#039;re reading emails from viewers saying they (the Dems) should be in jail.


Hopefully this is the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  agree with Rush L&#8230; we can&#8217;t fall victim to a phychological warfare being done by the media against Republicans/Conservatives.</p>
<p>Part of the reason GOP lost in 06 was because so many peolpe internalized the media&#8217;s drumbeat of &#8220;Culture of Corruption&#8221;.</p>
<p>The GOP Corruption is NOTHING compared to the Dem Corruption..</p>
<p>Of the two polls I&#8217;ve seen that included thousands of peolpe, both of them had McCain wining the debate by a wide margin.</p>
<p>That was the Drudge Report and the AOL polls</p>
<p>[I know they're not scientific]</p>
<p>anyway.. dont let these poll discourage you.. i doubt their accuracy.</p>
<p>now one thing that is happening that I like is this story by Fox news</p>
<p>This is Fox and Friends from Sunday morning, &#8220;Accountable Frank: Barney Frank changing his tune; should he be held accountable&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&#038;streamingFormat=FLASH&#038;referralObject=3116911&#038;referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&#038;streamingFormat=FLASH&#038;referralObject=3116911&#038;referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;re reading emails from viewers saying they (the Dems) should be in jail.</p>
<p>Hopefully this is the start.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guiding principle of the Democratic Party is that there are more Pauls than Peters. 

This makes socialism inevitable unless there are enough Pauls who understand the history of socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guiding principle of the Democratic Party is that there are more Pauls than Peters. </p>
<p>This makes socialism inevitable unless there are enough Pauls who understand the history of socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, you&#039;re starting to worry me.  If you are losing confidence, we&#039;re pretty well sunk.

I&#039;m worried most by the intimidation tactics already on display by Obama and the Dems.  They were thuggish before...but it is becoming clear that an Obama presidency would see police-state tactics familiar to the inmates of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

And you haven&#039;t touched on the worst of it.  Iran is working on building nuclear weapons.  Pakistan has them already.  If Obama gets in, the likelihood of a terrorist nuke obliterating Washington is frighteningly high.

On the other hand, I don&#039;t think this fight is over quite yet.  As I write this, it appears that a deal has been reached on the bailout...and most of the shift to Obama has been due to the crisis.  Furthermore, I&#039;ve seen reports to the effect that McCain has a significant financial edge on Obama.  And McCain has not played the trump cards yet.  I suspect that the plan is a last-two-weeks sledgehammer offensive.  In 2000, Gore gained five points in as many days...I think McCain has the same thing in mind.  This fight is not over yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, you&#8217;re starting to worry me.  If you are losing confidence, we&#8217;re pretty well sunk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m worried most by the intimidation tactics already on display by Obama and the Dems.  They were thuggish before&#8230;but it is becoming clear that an Obama presidency would see police-state tactics familiar to the inmates of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>And you haven&#8217;t touched on the worst of it.  Iran is working on building nuclear weapons.  Pakistan has them already.  If Obama gets in, the likelihood of a terrorist nuke obliterating Washington is frighteningly high.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t think this fight is over quite yet.  As I write this, it appears that a deal has been reached on the bailout&#8230;and most of the shift to Obama has been due to the crisis.  Furthermore, I&#8217;ve seen reports to the effect that McCain has a significant financial edge on Obama.  And McCain has not played the trump cards yet.  I suspect that the plan is a last-two-weeks sledgehammer offensive.  In 2000, Gore gained five points in as many days&#8230;I think McCain has the same thing in mind.  This fight is not over yet.</p>
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		<title>By: cochino</title>
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		<dc:creator>cochino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, things do seem to be breaking Obama&#039;s way.  But I don&#039;t think there&#039;s reason to throw in the towel, yet!  Yet, there is no doubt that if Obama is elected, it will be the most liberal government the U.S. has ever had.  People with very strong anti-capitalist sentiments will hold most of the levers of power. I don&#039;t say that lightly.  It&#039;s just true.  

As recently as the 1980&#039;s, the Democratic Party was largely controlled by generally conservative to moderate people (although many were big government types/New Dealers).  There were leftwing nuts around low down on the seniority chain.  Well, the conservative to moderate people are all gone and the nuts are now in the leadership.  It&#039;s scary to see them licking their chops about getting their hands on U.S. wealth to fulfill their socialist dreams.

I keep asking myself, &quot;is this really what the U.S. population wants?&quot;.  Maybe so.  

On the bright side, we&#039;re not just talking about philosophical differences, here.  Six of this, half dozen of the other.  Socialism just doesn&#039;t work.  Sooner or later, it has to be dismantled.  They are on the wrong side, historically.  People just need to keep fighting for liberalism (in the classical sense) and not give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, things do seem to be breaking Obama&#8217;s way.  But I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s reason to throw in the towel, yet!  Yet, there is no doubt that if Obama is elected, it will be the most liberal government the U.S. has ever had.  People with very strong anti-capitalist sentiments will hold most of the levers of power. I don&#8217;t say that lightly.  It&#8217;s just true.  </p>
<p>As recently as the 1980&#8242;s, the Democratic Party was largely controlled by generally conservative to moderate people (although many were big government types/New Dealers).  There were leftwing nuts around low down on the seniority chain.  Well, the conservative to moderate people are all gone and the nuts are now in the leadership.  It&#8217;s scary to see them licking their chops about getting their hands on U.S. wealth to fulfill their socialist dreams.</p>
<p>I keep asking myself, &#8220;is this really what the U.S. population wants?&#8221;.  Maybe so.  </p>
<p>On the bright side, we&#8217;re not just talking about philosophical differences, here.  Six of this, half dozen of the other.  Socialism just doesn&#8217;t work.  Sooner or later, it has to be dismantled.  They are on the wrong side, historically.  People just need to keep fighting for liberalism (in the classical sense) and not give up.</p>
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