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		<title>By: Life and Times Of Obama Time Line 1961-2008 &#171; Yes We Can Impeach Obama Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life and Times Of Obama Time Line 1961-2008 &#171; Yes We Can Impeach Obama Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Who Pays Obama Taxes On His House Part II?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Who Pays Obama Taxes On His House Part II?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his original research into the interesting public record associated with Obama&#8217;s homes. In his first analysisÂ SBD analyzed Barack Obama&#8217;s first home (1993-2005) and found some interesting names on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his original research into the interesting public record associated with Obama&#8217;s homes. In his first analysisÂ SBD analyzed Barack Obama&#8217;s first home (1993-2005) and found some interesting names on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne at Jeremiah Films</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530/comment-page-2#comment-395696</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne at Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve top posted an excerpt to your article from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/news/101208.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s Home but other party payes property taxes?&lt;/a&gt;

Strata Sphere has original research on Obama&#039;s home that he got a sweet heart deal on. The sweet heart deal is not the end of the story ... Emil owns the property from 1986-1989, so why is he listed as paying taxes from 1998-2004 in other records? ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve top posted an excerpt to your article from <a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/news/101208.html" rel="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s Home but other party payes property taxes?</a></p>
<p>Strata Sphere has original research on Obama&#8217;s home that he got a sweet heart deal on. The sweet heart deal is not the end of the story &#8230; Emil owns the property from 1986-1989, so why is he listed as paying taxes from 1998-2004 in other records? ..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama&#039;s Home but other party payes property taxes?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Strata Sphere has original research on Obama&#039;s home that he got a sweet heart deal on. The sweet heart deal is not the end of the story ... Emil owns the property from 1986-1989, so why is he listed as paying taxes from 1998-2004 in other records? ......</description>
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<p>Strata Sphere has original research on Obama&#8217;s home that he got a sweet heart deal on. The sweet heart deal is not the end of the story &#8230; Emil owns the property from 1986-1989, so why is he listed as paying taxes from 1998-2004 in other records? &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530/comment-page-2#comment-395437</link>
		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgy Obama Stuff

One of AJ&#039;s favorite sites (not) has the breaking story
that Obama was not born in Hawaii but in Kenya.
This is sourced from Court documents attendant to the
Berg lawsuit currently under way.

The implications are obvious.

The site is that texasdarlin . wordpress . com site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy Obama Stuff</p>
<p>One of AJ&#8217;s favorite sites (not) has the breaking story<br />
that Obama was not born in Hawaii but in Kenya.<br />
This is sourced from Court documents attendant to the<br />
Berg lawsuit currently under way.</p>
<p>The implications are obvious.</p>
<p>The site is that texasdarlin . wordpress . com site</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530/comment-page-2#comment-395334</link>
		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now For something completely different,
AJ, this story may interest you,
speculation that the Iranian ship now held by Somali pirates
was the world&#039;s first dirty bomb attack, probably meant for Israel, for Yom Kippur
before the pirates messed it up.
http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/10/poetic-justice-irans-dirty-bomb-attack.html
Interestingly, also on Yom Kippur, there was a Russian naval task force
docked in the Syrian port of Tartus. Peter The Great is a guided missile
cruise armed with S-300 anti aircraft missiles. Coincidence?
It&#039;s presence in a Syrian port would have seriously hindered any
Israeli attempt to launch a retaliatory strike.
??
Sorry it&#039;s off topic, but I wanted to see your opinion about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now For something completely different,<br />
AJ, this story may interest you,<br />
speculation that the Iranian ship now held by Somali pirates<br />
was the world&#8217;s first dirty bomb attack, probably meant for Israel, for Yom Kippur<br />
before the pirates messed it up.<br />
<a href="http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/10/poetic-justice-irans-dirty-bomb-attack.html" rel="nofollow">http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/10/poetic-justice-irans-dirty-bomb-attack.html</a><br />
Interestingly, also on Yom Kippur, there was a Russian naval task force<br />
docked in the Syrian port of Tartus. Peter The Great is a guided missile<br />
cruise armed with S-300 anti aircraft missiles. Coincidence?<br />
It&#8217;s presence in a Syrian port would have seriously hindered any<br />
Israeli attempt to launch a retaliatory strike.<br />
??<br />
Sorry it&#8217;s off topic, but I wanted to see your opinion about this.</p>
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		<title>By: ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6530/comment-page-2#comment-395311</link>
		<dc:creator>ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched the new RNC ad: Guilt By Participation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E3Vhnfhk-c

Better!  But still doesn&#039;t drive the point home, and way too long.

If people don&#039;t get the point about Bill Ayers in 10 secs by now after all the other ads, spending the better part of a minute on it won&#039;t change their minds.  Ayers alone won&#039;t flatten Obama.

Stop wasting time on the cards when you should be stacking the deck.  Stop jabbing at his love handles when you should be going for the long hard punches that crush bone.  Time to start mixin&#039; it up.  This ain&#039;t no tea party!

I&#039;d like to ask a question here about something that&#039;s been gnawing at me for weeks now.  I hope I&#039;m not the only one thinking it but it&#039;s hard to think otherwise given how it hasn&#039;t come up in anything I&#039;ve heard or read.

Maybe it&#039;s utterly racist, or maybe it&#039;s utterly stupid, or maybe it&#039;s utterly both.  I honestly can&#039;t tell anymore.

But when the liberal leftist Democrats keep screeching, &quot;racist&quot; at everything and anything remotely questionable about their messiah, what are they really saying?

Are they accusing the conservative right Republicans of being racist against blacks, whites, or bi-racials?

21 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched the new RNC ad: Guilt By Participation<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E3Vhnfhk-c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E3Vhnfhk-c</a></p>
<p>Better!  But still doesn&#8217;t drive the point home, and way too long.</p>
<p>If people don&#8217;t get the point about Bill Ayers in 10 secs by now after all the other ads, spending the better part of a minute on it won&#8217;t change their minds.  Ayers alone won&#8217;t flatten Obama.</p>
<p>Stop wasting time on the cards when you should be stacking the deck.  Stop jabbing at his love handles when you should be going for the long hard punches that crush bone.  Time to start mixin&#8217; it up.  This ain&#8217;t no tea party!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to ask a question here about something that&#8217;s been gnawing at me for weeks now.  I hope I&#8217;m not the only one thinking it but it&#8217;s hard to think otherwise given how it hasn&#8217;t come up in anything I&#8217;ve heard or read.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s utterly racist, or maybe it&#8217;s utterly stupid, or maybe it&#8217;s utterly both.  I honestly can&#8217;t tell anymore.</p>
<p>But when the liberal leftist Democrats keep screeching, &#8220;racist&#8221; at everything and anything remotely questionable about their messiah, what are they really saying?</p>
<p>Are they accusing the conservative right Republicans of being racist against blacks, whites, or bi-racials?</p>
<p>21 days.</p>
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		<title>By: ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To really understand polls, watch this.  The final two minutes at the very end tacks way left without really justifying what it claims while clearly affirming the liberal bent of the BBC, but it doesnâ€™t invalidate the incredible story it has to tell about opinion taking and opinion making.

A must watch.

&quot;The Century of the Self&quot;
(4 parts, 4 hours - it&#039;s long but you&#039;ll be loathe to stop)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151&amp;hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614&amp;hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811&amp;hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036&amp;hl=en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To really understand polls, watch this.  The final two minutes at the very end tacks way left without really justifying what it claims while clearly affirming the liberal bent of the BBC, but it doesnâ€™t invalidate the incredible story it has to tell about opinion taking and opinion making.</p>
<p>A must watch.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Century of the Self&#8221;<br />
(4 parts, 4 hours &#8211; it&#8217;s long but you&#8217;ll be loathe to stop)<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151&#038;hl=en</a></p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614&#038;hl=en</a></p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811&#038;hl=en</a></p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: breschau</title>
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		<dc:creator>breschau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The wingnuts grasping onto the weakest of concepts that they can possibly find.

Serioiusly - you all are pathetic. I hope you do realize that.

As soon as I see an article just as deep on McCain&#039;s 7+ houses, and who pays the mortgage on them, I&#039;ll take you seriously. Until then - get comfortable in the &quot;we laugh at you&quot; section of the political spectrum.

Are you all ready for President Obama? Because you do realize it&#039;s inevitable, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The wingnuts grasping onto the weakest of concepts that they can possibly find.</p>
<p>Serioiusly &#8211; you all are pathetic. I hope you do realize that.</p>
<p>As soon as I see an article just as deep on McCain&#8217;s 7+ houses, and who pays the mortgage on them, I&#8217;ll take you seriously. Until then &#8211; get comfortable in the &#8220;we laugh at you&#8221; section of the political spectrum.</p>
<p>Are you all ready for President Obama? Because you do realize it&#8217;s inevitable, right?</p>
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		<title>By: ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another example of the MSM and others hammering away at the Kool-aid rhetoric:

REUTERS:  World looks for new leaders as crisis outgrows G7
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE49B3H220081012

&quot;If you ask me for my view about the problems we&#039;re seeing right now, it&#039;s the absence of strong, visible leadership capable of driving change ....&quot; Trevor Manuel, South Africa&#039;s finance minister...

It&#039;s subtle but it&#039;s right there in the middle of the article.  It&#039;s not directed at anyone in particular, just like &quot;change&quot; isn&#039;t about anything in particular.  But you know what Americans will hear without even thinking about it.  And Obama scores another point.

Btw, isnt&#039; it amazing given how much &quot;change&quot; America has undergone in the last few weeks.  Is is harsh?  Well yes, sometimes change is harsh.  Isn&#039;t it frightening?  Well yes, sometimes change can be frightening.  Well, what are you going to do about it?  Well clearly, change is all you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another example of the MSM and others hammering away at the Kool-aid rhetoric:</p>
<p>REUTERS:  World looks for new leaders as crisis outgrows G7<br />
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE49B3H220081012" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE49B3H220081012</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If you ask me for my view about the problems we&#8217;re seeing right now, it&#8217;s the absence of strong, visible leadership capable of driving change &#8230;.&#8221; Trevor Manuel, South Africa&#8217;s finance minister&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s subtle but it&#8217;s right there in the middle of the article.  It&#8217;s not directed at anyone in particular, just like &#8220;change&#8221; isn&#8217;t about anything in particular.  But you know what Americans will hear without even thinking about it.  And Obama scores another point.</p>
<p>Btw, isnt&#8217; it amazing given how much &#8220;change&#8221; America has undergone in the last few weeks.  Is is harsh?  Well yes, sometimes change is harsh.  Isn&#8217;t it frightening?  Well yes, sometimes change can be frightening.  Well, what are you going to do about it?  Well clearly, change is all you need.</p>
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		<title>By: ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExposeFannyNFreddyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this post has really run the gamut of debate.  The background info on Rezko is just staggering and the work that&#039;s gone into it is mind-boggling.

But like all the rest, it&#039;s all still preaching to the choir.  It still fails to finger Obama.

Obama is running for office, not Rezko, not Auchi.

I know it&#039;s all important to building the case against him but time is running out.  If we can&#039;t get to the point of all this, and pretty damn soon, we better all start learning to like the taste of Kool-aid.

As for the MSM, they&#039;re now so shrill it&#039;s a wonder anyone can hear themselves think.  Then again, I guess that&#039;s the whole point.  Sadly, one of the people who&#039;s listening too attentively is McCain.  He&#039;s totally lost focus now on how to win this election in my view.

The danger of Obama is he&#039;s everything and anything people want him to be.

The magic of Obama is he&#039;s everything and anything people want him to be.

In defense of John McCain, he&#039;s fighting a wraith that&#039;s been manufactured and is being manipulated by forces few of us can even begin to fathom.  But fight it, defeat it, and win he must, for all of us.

It&#039;s true he doesn&#039;t have the razzle dazzle of Obama.  His art of persuasion is at best, old school.  But what he does have that he seems to lose sight of is integrity.  The problem is he&#039;s packaging it all wrong.

It&#039;s what lay behind his &quot;decent man&quot; speech but unfortunately it wasn&#039;t the message conveyed.  It&#039;s also what makes it so hard for him to come out and actually accuse Obama of anything, even Obama&#039;s lack of judgment.

If anyone is a &quot;decent man&quot; in this campaign, clearly it&#039;s John McCain.

But if all the findings about Rezko, Auchi, Alinshky, Ayers, Khalidi, Odinga, ACORN, Fannie &amp; Freddie, Jim Johnson, Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger, and Franklin Raines aren&#039;t enough to convince Americans that Obama is a man too full of &quot;mis-associations&quot; to be given the keys to the greatest country on earth, then America is lost.

But then if Obama has what it takes to MIS-LEAD America then clearly, Obama has proven to Americans he has what it takes and everything it takes, to LEAD America.

In light of that, what becomes glaringly and painfully clear is, if McCain doesn&#039;t have what it takes to LEAD Americans away from their own misconceptions, even with all this material, plus a rock solid, actively participatory, &quot;decent&#039; record, then clearly, despite all his &quot;decency&quot;, he lacks the LEADERSHIP needed to protect Americans from socialist subversives with do-nothing records like Obama; in which case, America is truly lost.

Fight man, fight!  And LEAD!  Don&#039;t insinuate.  Don&#039;t imply.  Don&#039;t debate.  Get to the point, and LEAD!

If it means overloading America with the overload that is Obama&#039;s constant mis-associations, or prepare to let Obama overload America with ALL of his mis-associations, past, present, and future.

21 Days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this post has really run the gamut of debate.  The background info on Rezko is just staggering and the work that&#8217;s gone into it is mind-boggling.</p>
<p>But like all the rest, it&#8217;s all still preaching to the choir.  It still fails to finger Obama.</p>
<p>Obama is running for office, not Rezko, not Auchi.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s all important to building the case against him but time is running out.  If we can&#8217;t get to the point of all this, and pretty damn soon, we better all start learning to like the taste of Kool-aid.</p>
<p>As for the MSM, they&#8217;re now so shrill it&#8217;s a wonder anyone can hear themselves think.  Then again, I guess that&#8217;s the whole point.  Sadly, one of the people who&#8217;s listening too attentively is McCain.  He&#8217;s totally lost focus now on how to win this election in my view.</p>
<p>The danger of Obama is he&#8217;s everything and anything people want him to be.</p>
<p>The magic of Obama is he&#8217;s everything and anything people want him to be.</p>
<p>In defense of John McCain, he&#8217;s fighting a wraith that&#8217;s been manufactured and is being manipulated by forces few of us can even begin to fathom.  But fight it, defeat it, and win he must, for all of us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true he doesn&#8217;t have the razzle dazzle of Obama.  His art of persuasion is at best, old school.  But what he does have that he seems to lose sight of is integrity.  The problem is he&#8217;s packaging it all wrong.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what lay behind his &#8220;decent man&#8221; speech but unfortunately it wasn&#8217;t the message conveyed.  It&#8217;s also what makes it so hard for him to come out and actually accuse Obama of anything, even Obama&#8217;s lack of judgment.</p>
<p>If anyone is a &#8220;decent man&#8221; in this campaign, clearly it&#8217;s John McCain.</p>
<p>But if all the findings about Rezko, Auchi, Alinshky, Ayers, Khalidi, Odinga, ACORN, Fannie &amp; Freddie, Jim Johnson, Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger, and Franklin Raines aren&#8217;t enough to convince Americans that Obama is a man too full of &#8220;mis-associations&#8221; to be given the keys to the greatest country on earth, then America is lost.</p>
<p>But then if Obama has what it takes to MIS-LEAD America then clearly, Obama has proven to Americans he has what it takes and everything it takes, to LEAD America.</p>
<p>In light of that, what becomes glaringly and painfully clear is, if McCain doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to LEAD Americans away from their own misconceptions, even with all this material, plus a rock solid, actively participatory, &#8220;decent&#8217; record, then clearly, despite all his &#8220;decency&#8221;, he lacks the LEADERSHIP needed to protect Americans from socialist subversives with do-nothing records like Obama; in which case, America is truly lost.</p>
<p>Fight man, fight!  And LEAD!  Don&#8217;t insinuate.  Don&#8217;t imply.  Don&#8217;t debate.  Get to the point, and LEAD!</p>
<p>If it means overloading America with the overload that is Obama&#8217;s constant mis-associations, or prepare to let Obama overload America with ALL of his mis-associations, past, present, and future.</p>
<p>21 Days.</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way you just described the MSM as altruistic and that they think they know what is best for us is exactly how the &quot;Road to Serfdom&quot; describes it.

&lt;b&gt;Why the worst get on top&lt;/b&gt;

A further point should be made here: collectivism means the end of truth. To make a totalitarian system function efficiently it is not enough that everybody should be forced to work for the ends selected by those in control; it is essential that the people should come to regard these ends as their own. This is brought about by propaganda and by complete control of all sources of information.

The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those they have always held, but which were not properly understood or recognized before. And the most efficient technique to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning. Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as this complete perversion of language.

The worst sufferer in this respect is the word â€˜libertyâ€™. It is a word used as freely in totalitarian states as elsewhere. Indeed, it could almost be said that wherever liberty as we know it has been destroyed, this has been done in the name of some new freedom promised to the people. Even among us we have planners who promise us a â€˜collective freedomâ€™, which is as misleading as anything said by totalitarian politicians. â€˜Collective freedomâ€™ is not the freedom of the members of society, but the unlimited freedom of the planner to do with society that which he pleases. This is the confusion of freedom with power carried to the extreme.

Perhaps the most alarming fact is that contempt for intellectual liberty is not a thing which arises only once the totalitarian system is established, but can be found everywhere among those who have embraced a collectivist faith. The worst oppression is condoned if it is committed in the name of socialism. Intolerance of opposing ideas is openly extolled. The tragedy of collectivist thought is that while it starts out to make reason supreme, it ends by destroying reason.

SBD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way you just described the MSM as altruistic and that they think they know what is best for us is exactly how the &#8220;Road to Serfdom&#8221; describes it.</p>
<p><b>Why the worst get on top</b></p>
<p>A further point should be made here: collectivism means the end of truth. To make a totalitarian system function efficiently it is not enough that everybody should be forced to work for the ends selected by those in control; it is essential that the people should come to regard these ends as their own. This is brought about by propaganda and by complete control of all sources of information.</p>
<p>The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those they have always held, but which were not properly understood or recognized before. And the most efficient technique to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning. Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as this complete perversion of language.</p>
<p>The worst sufferer in this respect is the word â€˜libertyâ€™. It is a word used as freely in totalitarian states as elsewhere. Indeed, it could almost be said that wherever liberty as we know it has been destroyed, this has been done in the name of some new freedom promised to the people. Even among us we have planners who promise us a â€˜collective freedomâ€™, which is as misleading as anything said by totalitarian politicians. â€˜Collective freedomâ€™ is not the freedom of the members of society, but the unlimited freedom of the planner to do with society that which he pleases. This is the confusion of freedom with power carried to the extreme.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most alarming fact is that contempt for intellectual liberty is not a thing which arises only once the totalitarian system is established, but can be found everywhere among those who have embraced a collectivist faith. The worst oppression is condoned if it is committed in the name of socialism. Intolerance of opposing ideas is openly extolled. The tragedy of collectivist thought is that while it starts out to make reason supreme, it ends by destroying reason.</p>
<p>SBD</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBD.....I agree our elected government works for the highest bidder in the main. I think MSM is more altruistic. They think they know best, what is good for us the people and they spend every waking hour trying to sell it to us. . In my heart of hearts, I don&#039;t think this President works for the highest bidder. Maybe he was fed bad information, or maybe something else is going on that we don&#039;t yet know about re the financial situation. Like someone or someones are trying to bring down western civilization. Or maybe this is so big and disastrous that this was the only way to stop it. I don&#039;t know the answer, but I think this financial situation has the bigness of the 1939 depression, maybe even bigger, with out nationalizing the whole country this package might be better then the alternative. 

I also agree with you, without a smoking gun Obama will be president. He is too dazzling compared to McCain and enough people will not be persuaded otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBD&#8230;..I agree our elected government works for the highest bidder in the main. I think MSM is more altruistic. They think they know best, what is good for us the people and they spend every waking hour trying to sell it to us. . In my heart of hearts, I don&#8217;t think this President works for the highest bidder. Maybe he was fed bad information, or maybe something else is going on that we don&#8217;t yet know about re the financial situation. Like someone or someones are trying to bring down western civilization. Or maybe this is so big and disastrous that this was the only way to stop it. I don&#8217;t know the answer, but I think this financial situation has the bigness of the 1939 depression, maybe even bigger, with out nationalizing the whole country this package might be better then the alternative. </p>
<p>I also agree with you, without a smoking gun Obama will be president. He is too dazzling compared to McCain and enough people will not be persuaded otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kathie, your answer is incorrect.  The reason the MSM can determine our next President is because it is controlled by a few powerful entities who push their own agenda rather than the public good.  The internet and blogs such as this one is currently our only hope in getting our message heard.  That is the reason I started this research because without a &quot;smoking gun&quot; catching fire on the internet, Obama will be our next President.

The 700 Billion bailout is concrete proof that our &quot;so called&quot; elected officials don&#039;t work for us, they work for the highest bidder.  Everyone, was against the bailout, it did not matter if they were a Democrat or a Republican, they were against it.  Did it matter??

The fact that the first bailout vote failed due in large part to the Republicans probably sealed their fate in this election.  Those in charge don&#039;t want us Republicans messing with their agenda.  They don&#039;t want Republicans to defend our Constitution because it might catch on rapidly and the next thing you know, Republicans might be able to get rid of the unconstitutional private Federal Reserve Bank.

I am afraid we as a country are speeding on &quot;The Road to Serfdom&quot; without any brakes.

If you have never read &quot;The Road to Serfdom&quot;  by F.A. Hayek, here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to the Reader&#039;s Digest Condensed version.

&lt;b&gt;Hayek&#039;s Main Thesis and Arguments&lt;/b&gt;

Disagreement about the practical implementation of any economic plan combined with the inadequacy of the central plannersâ€™ resource management would invariably necessitate coercion in order for anything to be achieved. Hayek further argued that the failure of central planning would be perceived by the public as an absence of sufficient power by the state to implement an otherwise good idea. Such a perception would lead the public to vote more power to the state, and would assist the rise to power of a â€œstrong manâ€ perceived to be capable of â€œgetting the job doneâ€. After these developments Hayek argued that a country would be ineluctably driven into outright totalitarianism. For Hayek â€œthe road to serfdomâ€ inadvertently set upon by central planning, with its dismantling of the free market system, ends in the destruction of all individual economic and personal freedom.

SBD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kathie, your answer is incorrect.  The reason the MSM can determine our next President is because it is controlled by a few powerful entities who push their own agenda rather than the public good.  The internet and blogs such as this one is currently our only hope in getting our message heard.  That is the reason I started this research because without a &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; catching fire on the internet, Obama will be our next President.</p>
<p>The 700 Billion bailout is concrete proof that our &#8220;so called&#8221; elected officials don&#8217;t work for us, they work for the highest bidder.  Everyone, was against the bailout, it did not matter if they were a Democrat or a Republican, they were against it.  Did it matter??</p>
<p>The fact that the first bailout vote failed due in large part to the Republicans probably sealed their fate in this election.  Those in charge don&#8217;t want us Republicans messing with their agenda.  They don&#8217;t want Republicans to defend our Constitution because it might catch on rapidly and the next thing you know, Republicans might be able to get rid of the unconstitutional private Federal Reserve Bank.</p>
<p>I am afraid we as a country are speeding on &#8220;The Road to Serfdom&#8221; without any brakes.</p>
<p>If you have never read &#8220;The Road to Serfdom&#8221;  by F.A. Hayek, here is a <a href="http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf" rel="nofollow">link</a> to the Reader&#8217;s Digest Condensed version.</p>
<p><b>Hayek&#8217;s Main Thesis and Arguments</b></p>
<p>Disagreement about the practical implementation of any economic plan combined with the inadequacy of the central plannersâ€™ resource management would invariably necessitate coercion in order for anything to be achieved. Hayek further argued that the failure of central planning would be perceived by the public as an absence of sufficient power by the state to implement an otherwise good idea. Such a perception would lead the public to vote more power to the state, and would assist the rise to power of a â€œstrong manâ€ perceived to be capable of â€œgetting the job doneâ€. After these developments Hayek argued that a country would be ineluctably driven into outright totalitarianism. For Hayek â€œthe road to serfdomâ€ inadvertently set upon by central planning, with its dismantling of the free market system, ends in the destruction of all individual economic and personal freedom.</p>
<p>SBD</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know why MSM can determine our next President? Because the republican party did not push back for 8 years while they demonized every thing the President stood for, that he was elected to do by 51% of the voters. We let the Democrat party and MSM call him a lier, Hitler, a spy, a giver away of our dear Social Security, ruining our public school system by requiring standards, not looking after our energy supply, bankrupting the country, torturing people at will. 

Our, this President was dealt a hand that was played out on 911, and is playing out now in this financial crisis. He has had to make new rules to deal with terrorism that no one envisioned to keep this country safe. Every single infraction has been blamed on him and HE STOOD ALONE. You know what it breaks my heart. And now we could elect a radical. Ladies and gentleman a true RADICAL who finds the values that this country was founded on, abhorrent. Barack has hung out with socialists, communists and Marxist. Many years in his adult life are hidden from view, what did he do at Oxy, Columbia, Harvard? Who were his friends, where did he live? If questioned we a racists. 

PEOPLE THINK WE NEED A CHANGE BECAUSE MSM AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS TOLD US BUSH HAS DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY.  And what did the the republicans say, NOTHING.

I guess we get what we deserve, but the consequences are going to be bigger than most imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know why MSM can determine our next President? Because the republican party did not push back for 8 years while they demonized every thing the President stood for, that he was elected to do by 51% of the voters. We let the Democrat party and MSM call him a lier, Hitler, a spy, a giver away of our dear Social Security, ruining our public school system by requiring standards, not looking after our energy supply, bankrupting the country, torturing people at will. </p>
<p>Our, this President was dealt a hand that was played out on 911, and is playing out now in this financial crisis. He has had to make new rules to deal with terrorism that no one envisioned to keep this country safe. Every single infraction has been blamed on him and HE STOOD ALONE. You know what it breaks my heart. And now we could elect a radical. Ladies and gentleman a true RADICAL who finds the values that this country was founded on, abhorrent. Barack has hung out with socialists, communists and Marxist. Many years in his adult life are hidden from view, what did he do at Oxy, Columbia, Harvard? Who were his friends, where did he live? If questioned we a racists. </p>
<p>PEOPLE THINK WE NEED A CHANGE BECAUSE MSM AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS TOLD US BUSH HAS DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY.  And what did the the republicans say, NOTHING.</p>
<p>I guess we get what we deserve, but the consequences are going to be bigger than most imagine.</p>
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