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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conguy,  you&#039;re confused.  The stock market did the best it ever has during the first 6 years of the Bush Admin, then we turned congress over to the Dems, boom.   

The media has been in charge of the media forever and they&#039;ve always been Libs, nothings changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conguy,  you&#8217;re confused.  The stock market did the best it ever has during the first 6 years of the Bush Admin, then we turned congress over to the Dems, boom.   </p>
<p>The media has been in charge of the media forever and they&#8217;ve always been Libs, nothings changed.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frogg,

I said that months ago!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frogg,</p>
<p>I said that months ago!</p>
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		<title>By: archtop</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6670/comment-page-2#comment-397460</link>
		<dc:creator>archtop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in...

* AP/YAHOO Poll of 873 Democrats; 650 Republicans shows OBAMA 44%, MCCAIN 42%...

* Obama: &#039;Don&#039;t Underestimate Our Ability to Screw It Up&#039;...

* Some Polls Indicate Tighter Race... 

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Liberals deluding themselves into thinking they really have 320 electoral votes in 5..4..3..2..1â€¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in&#8230;</p>
<p>* AP/YAHOO Poll of 873 Democrats; 650 Republicans shows OBAMA 44%, MCCAIN 42%&#8230;</p>
<p>* Obama: &#8216;Don&#8217;t Underestimate Our Ability to Screw It Up&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>* Some Polls Indicate Tighter Race&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.drudgereport.com/</a></p>
<p>Liberals deluding themselves into thinking they really have 320 electoral votes in 5..4..3..2..1â€¦</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about something the other day.    It was the far left that gave Obama his nomination.   It was independents who gave McCain his nomination.    McCain will win or lose based on the independent vote.   Somehow, I don&#039;t think they will desert him on election day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about something the other day.    It was the far left that gave Obama his nomination.   It was independents who gave McCain his nomination.    McCain will win or lose based on the independent vote.   Somehow, I don&#8217;t think they will desert him on election day.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6670/comment-page-2#comment-397449</link>
		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surveys Split on Who Has Lead in Presidential Race 

Differences in Predicting Outcome Result From How Pollsters Gauge Voter Turnout and Weight Party Affiliation

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420151553142939.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surveys Split on Who Has Lead in Presidential Race </p>
<p>Differences in Predicting Outcome Result From How Pollsters Gauge Voter Turnout and Weight Party Affiliation</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420151553142939.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420151553142939.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Can McCain Make a Come Back? : Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can McCain Make a Come Back? : Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Strata on the same page. So is Yid with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: conman</title>
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		<dc:creator>conman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redteam,

You need to stop being so paranoid and blaming EVERYTHING on some secret liberal power that is supposedly tilting everything in their favor.  Think about it this way - if the media, pollsters, etc. are a bunch of rabid liberals that have enough power to rig everything in the Democrats favor, where the hell have they been for the last several years?  Republicans have had control over Congress for 12 of the last 14 years and the White House for the last 8 years.  Where the hell was this super secret liberal power machine during all of these GOP years - on vacation?  

Rather than jumping straight to the conspriacy theory every time you are confronted with a fact that you don&#039;t agree with, maybe you could start by asking yourself if it makes logical sense before you dismiss it as a liberal power grab.  Like maybe, just maybe, the polls are tilting to the left because the GOP has been largely in control for the last 8 years and screwed everything up.  Maybe people got tired of all the GOP corruption in Congress that led to the Democrats winning in 2006.  Maybe people have seen the worst economic crises since the Great Depression and decided perhaps we should put someone else in charge and see if we could do a little better.  Maybe people are starting to wonder if the GOP isn&#039;t really that strong on national security because they allowed the worst terrorist attack on America to happen on their watch, allowed Al Qaeda leaders to get away and find an even better safehaven in Pakistan (since they have nukes, so we cannot invade like Afghanistan), totally screwed up Iraq until Petraus came to the rescue and at least stabilized it and our military is at the lowest state of readiness since WWII.   

If logic doesn&#039;t work, perhaps you can talk to your doctor about upping your meds so all of those liberal monsters go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redteam,</p>
<p>You need to stop being so paranoid and blaming EVERYTHING on some secret liberal power that is supposedly tilting everything in their favor.  Think about it this way &#8211; if the media, pollsters, etc. are a bunch of rabid liberals that have enough power to rig everything in the Democrats favor, where the hell have they been for the last several years?  Republicans have had control over Congress for 12 of the last 14 years and the White House for the last 8 years.  Where the hell was this super secret liberal power machine during all of these GOP years &#8211; on vacation?  </p>
<p>Rather than jumping straight to the conspriacy theory every time you are confronted with a fact that you don&#8217;t agree with, maybe you could start by asking yourself if it makes logical sense before you dismiss it as a liberal power grab.  Like maybe, just maybe, the polls are tilting to the left because the GOP has been largely in control for the last 8 years and screwed everything up.  Maybe people got tired of all the GOP corruption in Congress that led to the Democrats winning in 2006.  Maybe people have seen the worst economic crises since the Great Depression and decided perhaps we should put someone else in charge and see if we could do a little better.  Maybe people are starting to wonder if the GOP isn&#8217;t really that strong on national security because they allowed the worst terrorist attack on America to happen on their watch, allowed Al Qaeda leaders to get away and find an even better safehaven in Pakistan (since they have nukes, so we cannot invade like Afghanistan), totally screwed up Iraq until Petraus came to the rescue and at least stabilized it and our military is at the lowest state of readiness since WWII.   </p>
<p>If logic doesn&#8217;t work, perhaps you can talk to your doctor about upping your meds so all of those liberal monsters go away.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a couple of years now there has been a Dem sponsored way to undermine the electoral vote without an amendment.

What they are proposing is a change to state laws that whoever wins the nationwide popular vote must be the candidate you cast all your electoral votes for.

If that ever gains a foothold the 11 or so most populous states will have a stranglehold on the issue and all the small states will be second class citizens at the table.

That is exactly what the electoral vote concept is designed to prevent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a couple of years now there has been a Dem sponsored way to undermine the electoral vote without an amendment.</p>
<p>What they are proposing is a change to state laws that whoever wins the nationwide popular vote must be the candidate you cast all your electoral votes for.</p>
<p>If that ever gains a foothold the 11 or so most populous states will have a stranglehold on the issue and all the small states will be second class citizens at the table.</p>
<p>That is exactly what the electoral vote concept is designed to prevent.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bresch? back from Scotland again?
&lt;em&gt;Wow. I sure am glad youâ€™re around to explain this stuff AJ, cuz math is hard. &lt;/em&gt;
You need a course in liberalism and logic to understand polls, math has nothing to do with it.  It&#039;s called &quot;in the tank&quot; for Libs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bresch? back from Scotland again?<br />
<em>Wow. I sure am glad youâ€™re around to explain this stuff AJ, cuz math is hard. </em><br />
You need a course in liberalism and logic to understand polls, math has nothing to do with it.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;in the tank&#8221; for Libs.</p>
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		<title>By: breschau</title>
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		<dc:creator>breschau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No heads will be exploding. Thanks anyway.

Obama will win at least 320 of the 528 electoral votes.

Spin that into &quot;panic&quot; however you wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No heads will be exploding. Thanks anyway.</p>
<p>Obama will win at least 320 of the 528 electoral votes.</p>
<p>Spin that into &#8220;panic&#8221; however you wish.</p>
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		<title>By: archtop</title>
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		<dc:creator>archtop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word is getting out...

GALLUP SHOCK:  49 OBAMA, 47 MCCAIN WITH LIKELY VOTERS

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Liberal&#039;s heads will begin to explode in 5..4..3..2..1...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word is getting out&#8230;</p>
<p>GALLUP SHOCK:  49 OBAMA, 47 MCCAIN WITH LIKELY VOTERS</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.drudgereport.com/</a></p>
<p>Liberal&#8217;s heads will begin to explode in 5..4..3..2..1&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: breschau</title>
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		<dc:creator>breschau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conman:

Let&#039;s also please not ignore this gem:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The second bit of good news for McCain is comes from a source in the Midwest, plugged into various GOP operations, who told me that â€œkey metricsâ€ in â€œbellweather areasâ€ of Ohio are showing very favorable McCain numbers and that these indicators may also signal important metrics for Pennsylvania, esp. western Pennsylvania.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

So, if you want to know who&#039;s going to win PA, you should ignore every single poll taken in that state this month, which all show an Obama lead somewhere between 11.4 and 15.

No, instead you should rely on some super secret numbers from &quot;GOP operations&quot; that are in Ohio that nobody else has seen. Those numbers, from &quot;bellweather areas&quot; of Ohio, will tell you who is going to win PA.

Wow. I sure am glad you&#039;re around to explain this stuff AJ, cuz math is hard. (Well, your math, at least.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conman:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also please not ignore this gem:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The second bit of good news for McCain is comes from a source in the Midwest, plugged into various GOP operations, who told me that â€œkey metricsâ€ in â€œbellweather areasâ€ of Ohio are showing very favorable McCain numbers and that these indicators may also signal important metrics for Pennsylvania, esp. western Pennsylvania.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So, if you want to know who&#8217;s going to win PA, you should ignore every single poll taken in that state this month, which all show an Obama lead somewhere between 11.4 and 15.</p>
<p>No, instead you should rely on some super secret numbers from &#8220;GOP operations&#8221; that are in Ohio that nobody else has seen. Those numbers, from &#8220;bellweather areas&#8221; of Ohio, will tell you who is going to win PA.</p>
<p>Wow. I sure am glad you&#8217;re around to explain this stuff AJ, cuz math is hard. (Well, your math, at least.)</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, yeah, I guess he has. I am surprised.  I stand corrected.

Also, on my way home from work tonight I heard a local real estate broker being interviewed on KCBS radio about the local housing crunch.  He said that the very high-end homes are sitting on the market much longer than in the past but the market has completely turned around for the average homes compared to what it was only a few weeks ago.  He said that getting 6 to 10 bids on a home, often for more than the asking price (overbidding he called it) is now back like it was before.  He said the more modest properties are now &quot;selling like hotcakes&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, yeah, I guess he has. I am surprised.  I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Also, on my way home from work tonight I heard a local real estate broker being interviewed on KCBS radio about the local housing crunch.  He said that the very high-end homes are sitting on the market much longer than in the past but the market has completely turned around for the average homes compared to what it was only a few weeks ago.  He said that getting 6 to 10 bids on a home, often for more than the asking price (overbidding he called it) is now back like it was before.  He said the more modest properties are now &#8220;selling like hotcakes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conguy, let me wade in here.  First, polls are unreliable in all cases.  Why, because they want the liberal to win and they will do what is necessary to sway voters that way.  they don&#039;t care if they are right because &#039;everyone&#039; knows polls are never right anyhow.  so there is no &#039;hit&#039; to their reputation if they are wrong and getting Obama a win is all they consider important anyhow.  
yeah, there are record numbers of registered voters, many of them fraudulently.  Just what &#039;race&#039; did they sign Mickey Mouse up as?  They weight them heavily toward the lib, so any small move left &#039;looks&#039; big, so it take a &#039;big&#039; move back right to see any movement at all.  That&#039;s why when you do see a move right, it&#039;s a move &#039;before&#039; they have time to re-do the models to sway you back left again.  So, as AJ says, when you see a &#039;move&#039; right, it&#039;s a move &#039;right&#039;.  It&#039;s hard to separate the leftie polls from the leftie MSM.  Two peas in a pod.  You don&#039;t have to be &#039;challenged&#039; in math skills, but it helps the leftie cause if you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conguy, let me wade in here.  First, polls are unreliable in all cases.  Why, because they want the liberal to win and they will do what is necessary to sway voters that way.  they don&#8217;t care if they are right because &#8216;everyone&#8217; knows polls are never right anyhow.  so there is no &#8216;hit&#8217; to their reputation if they are wrong and getting Obama a win is all they consider important anyhow.<br />
yeah, there are record numbers of registered voters, many of them fraudulently.  Just what &#8216;race&#8217; did they sign Mickey Mouse up as?  They weight them heavily toward the lib, so any small move left &#8216;looks&#8217; big, so it take a &#8216;big&#8217; move back right to see any movement at all.  That&#8217;s why when you do see a move right, it&#8217;s a move &#8216;before&#8217; they have time to re-do the models to sway you back left again.  So, as AJ says, when you see a &#8216;move&#8217; right, it&#8217;s a move &#8216;right&#8217;.  It&#8217;s hard to separate the leftie polls from the leftie MSM.  Two peas in a pod.  You don&#8217;t have to be &#8216;challenged&#8217; in math skills, but it helps the leftie cause if you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m a little off on my numbers,  9 states have over 50% of the votes.  the bottom 25 states only have 16% of the votes.  those 25 states would never see a presidential candidate in an election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m a little off on my numbers,  9 states have over 50% of the votes.  the bottom 25 states only have 16% of the votes.  those 25 states would never see a presidential candidate in an election.</p>
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