Nov 10 2008

Sorry Newt, No More Conservative Retreads

Published by at 8:23 pm under All General Discussions

Word is out Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele are vying to lead the new GOP. Gingrich leading a ‘new GOP’ is a real oxymoron. We don’t need another tired old conservative standard bearer. We need Michael Steele:

A battle to take the reins of the Republican National Committee is taking off between former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Maryland Lieutenant Gov. Michael Steele.

Republicans close to each man say they are intent on ousting Mike Duncan when his tenure ends in January and to insert themselves to articulate a counter-agenda to President-elect Barack Obama´s administration.

A bevy of backers for each man, neither of whom is an RNC member, have been burning up the phone lines and firing off e-mails as they try to sway the 168 RNC members in the wake of the second consecutive drubbing of Republicans at the polls.

One thing Gov Palin illustrated is it is time to get new blood in the leadership of the GOP and conservative movement. Steele is just the kind of fresh blood and energy and charisma missing from the gray beards. The failure of the current leaders in Congress, and in the think tanks and news media talking heads, is testament to why these folks should move aside and let the next generation take over.

Sorry Speaker Gingrich, you did well for us in the past but we need new thinking and new energy. You are just not the answer to the current GOP and conservative woes. You are more of the same failed policies and approaches. You helped lose the Gingrich revolution to conservative democrats. We don’t need a marginal ‘true conservative’ minority.  That we have! 

I for one will not take a GOP serious that nominates Gingrich over Steele.

47 responses so far

47 Responses to “Sorry Newt, No More Conservative Retreads”

  1. ExposeFannyNFreddyNow says:

    Reagan was 70 when he took office. He was 78 when he left office. So please stop with the age-ism. I think most of us would have “Old” Reagan back in a wink if we could.

    That said, Gingrich is a no but not because of his age. He has the fire. He has the passion. And he’s secure in his principles. But Newt would be turning back the clock. He’ll also keep the partisan fires burning just like O is keeping them going, with a vengeance.

    Steele is a good choice. He’s a solid Republican just right enough of center to have appeal without having to compromise his values, or ours. That said he comes with 50/50 liabilities in the race game.

    On the one hand he could totally neutralize the Dems whole race-baiting game. But he could potentially exacerbate the race-baiting game to the detriment of Republicans if he comes off as the stodgy, old-school right-wing O-wannabe, or the Dems are simply successful in tarring him as such right out of the gate.

    The comparison also has the potential to make the next four years into nothing but constant comparisons that entirely eclipse the relevant issues.

    But if Fred Thompson throws down, I’d go with him with one big caveat, McCain’s chaotic campaign. It’s worth waiting to see how he campaigns for the leadership.

    The most unfortunate thing with Steele, through no fault of his, is it will turn the GOP leadership race into Obama II. I know that’s an awful thing to say. But I don’t mean that as a racial commentary. It’s factual. It will happen.

    The Dems and the MSM will have a field day whether he wins or loses. We’ve already seen how it will be reported and commented on, except the GOP will receive even more derision for coat-tailing on a race that would be decidedly the lesser sequel.

    Then, think of the acid-tossing the GOP will suffer if they DON’T vote Steele.

    But there’s nothing for it now. Steele is worthy of the leadership. And it’s definitely not his baggage but he’ll be bringing it nevertheless.

    The whole race thing is just a mess now and it will needlessly infect every debate, hopefully not for all four years, but likely for at least two.

    The ideal thing would be if it became irrelevant without notice.

    Anyone remember television back in the 70s and early 80s? The MSM has sure come a long way, haven’t they?

    What Would Reagan Do?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122637470965416637.html

  2. Redteam says:

    momdear, that IQ you refer to is only an ad trying to get you to sign up, they even say Bidens is 146. what a laugh.
    if I were guessing I’d put Biden’s at about 105. I’d put Obama in the 90-95 range. Just guessing because zero paperwork has been released on Obama. No Birth Certificate, No adoption papers, no school records, no college records, no law school records, none have been released. We don’t even know if he graduated from any schools, including high school, college or any other. Some people will might disagree, but it is not there and forgers can do marvels.

    Newt is not the one, he had his chance. I’d like Steele or Fred, some others.
    Just for the record, Colin Powell got into the military adademy via affirmative action, tho I think he certainly could have gotten in without it. On the other hand, it has been said that Obama was not academically qualifed (tho as I said, no paperwork released) to even get an affirmative action appointment.

  3. tarpon says:

    Upgrade, upgrade, replace Boehner … with Pence.

    Steele is OK, but I would like to hear him give afew audition speeches before committing.

  4. ivehadit says:

    The country is a very different place now than when Reagan came into power. We have to face this fact. Not to do so will repeat mistakes that we cannot afford to repeat.

    Age equates with old ideas (perception is reality). We need fresh, like it or not. It’s a new century. We need to reflect that with someone who will communicate the fact that conservatives have studied the situation and the future and we have the answers, the vision and the courage and INTEGRITY to lead America. This next election will be about trust, imho.

    Sarah needs to continue having rallies, rallies for solutions, encouragement and TRUTH TELLING. She can honor the Office of the Presidency while still tellin’ it like it is.
    Joe, the Plumber, is doing well with his website.

    And, if we could reform the National Education Association, which I have been saying for years is harming this country, we could make A LOT of progress.

  5. LJStrata says:

    Wow, Crosspatch thanks for pointing me to Professor Williams’ articles. I may go pick up one of his books today, this guy makes a lot of sense.

  6. DJStrata says:

    I agree with a lot of the above comments. We do need new people in the party. It’s time for the younger generations to lead. But we need to be careful of the life long political activists. I know of a few in VA who have been raised working with the Republican party, and they also still think in old ideas. We need new fresh outsiders to get this party revamped. I don’t think Fred or Newt are good ideas, but I do agree that we shouldn’t hide people like Steele and Palin away in this invisible position.

    At this point its a wait and see game unless someone else is going to step up.

  7. BarbaraS says:

    I like Steele. As long as he lives in Maryland he will never regain office. They get bluer every year. I wish he would move to another state and run there. I’ll bet he would win in a landslide.

    Newt is old stuff and the media would have a field day bringing back their lies and snark. Thompson should be out and about making speeches not in the background of the RNC chair. He probably never wants to run for office again as he showed in the lackluster campaign he sort of waged. Both Gringrich and Thompson would be good advisors.

    But I really would like Rove. Don’t you know the left and the media’s heads would explode. Talk about strategy!!! Plus he knows all about it and wouldn’t have to learn. He knows the dynamics of the smallest district in the country. He knows where to put the money and where to hold it. He would be the best if he wants it.

  8. dave m says:

    Who’s Fred?

  9. crosspatch says:

    “I may go pick up one of his books today, this guy makes a lot of sense.”

    He teaches at George Mason. Or used to, I think he still does. He is a Nobel Prize winner in economics. Maybe you could even attend a lecture or something. I first heard him several years ago when he would sometimes guest host for Rush Limbaugh but I haven’t had a chance to listen to Rush much these days so I don’t know if he even still does that.

    I do love to hear that man talk, though. Maybe you could even get him to sign a copy of his newest book “Liberty versus the Tyranny of Socialism”.

  10. robert c verdi says:

    Barbara S,
    Yeah Rove would send them insane.

  11. DJStrata says:

    Dave m,

    Fred Thompson

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  13. Toes192 says:

    When you folks talk about our Sarah… The mere plane ride from here to, for instance, Houston… 1 hour to airport… 1 hour to departure… [Midnight departure anyone?] … 3+ hours to Seattle… 1 hour connect … 4 hours to Houston… Pick up bags and drive to hotel… 1+ hours… So… 12+ or so hours going AND coming …
    .
    2 days travel… For every single or multiple appearances down south…
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    Just add this factor into your thought process…
    .

  14. crosspatch says:

    DJStrata:

    I like Fred. I like the way he talks. But I don’t think that deep down he is the kind of “political animal” that needs to run the party. I don’t think he has the party contacts at the state and local levels that would be best to basically rebuild the party. We need someone who would be relentless on corruption and return to core values such as government being the problem, not the answer. Our problems today are caused by too much government meddling in markets, not from a lack of enough meddling.

    We need new faces and names that aren’t associated with “fat cat” incumbencies, “good old boy” networks, and “business as usual” politics. Government needs to get over itself. Sam is your uncle, not your mommy.

  15. crosspatch says:

    And we need someone who will stand up to unfounded media attacks. This policy of ignoring them isn’t working. People believe the stuff. I overheard one co-worker the other day saying “I was for McCain but the more we learned about Palin …” In other words, he was hearing all the smears but never heard that none of them were true.

    Sad thing is that a lot of the people STILL believe that all those smears were true. At some point you need to get in the media’s face and call them flat out liars. Maybe the candidate doesn’t need to do it, but a spokesperson for the campaign could really attract a lot of attention by making a public release accusing a news outlet of outright lying and failing in their obligation to fact-check. This lukewarm non-response that Republicans have been giving to this stuff isn’t working. They need to be aggressive and call them on it flat out. If they are lying, call them liars and use that very term. If they are failing in their fact checking, call them incompetent and use that very term in an official release.

    It is time someone held them responsible. The Republicans have been letting the press steamroll them with only minor complaints on friendly interviews from Fox. It is time to call them what they are and do it publicly and officially.

  16. Huan says:

    i like steele, and would prefer him over newt.

    today’s WSJ posted articles by Steele, Danny Vargas, Richard Land, Henry Olson, and Peter Robinson.

    here is Steele:

    Most Americans today see a Republican Party that defines itself by what it is against rather than what it is for. We can tell you why public schools aren’t working, but not articulate a compelling vision for how we’ll better educate children. We’re well equipped to rail against tax increases; but can’t begin to explain how we’ll help the poor. We exclude far better than we welcome.

    Things were different as recently as 20 years ago. Back then, Ronald Reagan made it cool to be a Republican — it wasn’t just his specific policies, but the timeless truths he so eloquently gave voice to, and upon which his policies were based. That’s the Republican Party we must re-establish.

    We must articulate a positive vision for America’s future that speaks to Americans’ hopes, concerns and needs. It’s time to stop defining ourselves by what we are not, and tell voters what we believe, how we’ll lead, and where we’ll go; how we Republicans will make America better; how we’ll make their families more prosperous, their children better educated, their parents more secure, and all of us healthier, safer and stronger.

    Our challenge lies not in beating Democrats, but in uniting around a message that solidifies our ranks and attracts new people to our cause. We have to listen to what Americans are telling us about their hopes, desires and needs, and then translate that message into proposals for meaningful action squarely grounded on the values we Republicans have always stood for.

    Our faith in the power and ingenuity of the individual to build a nation through hard work, personal responsibility and self-discipline is our uniting principle. That is the sacred ground upon which our Republican Party was built. For the sake of all Americans, it is the ground we must reclaim.

    here is Vargas:

    Sadly, too many Americans view the GOP as out of touch, intolerant, the party of the rich, and unable to govern effectively. To be successful and regain the majority, we must change these perceptions and communicate more effectively with all segments of society, expand the base and allow for varying view points, while remaining true to our core values of limited but effective government, individual liberty and personal responsibility, and respect for traditional values.

    Our message must offer a clear, optimistic and compelling vision for the future made up of ideas, reforms and solutions Americans can embrace. And this can be done without pandering, patronizing or compromising on our core principles. But it cannot be done without engaging in dialogue, listening to concerns, and making every effort to welcome citizens from various segments of society into the party infrastructure and to run for elective office.

    both messages are pretty good, but the difference appears to be Steele wants to rebuild the party, Vargas wants a to make the party ideas more appealing. We need both. Vargas is not running but i like what he had to say.

    not to play identity politics but both being minorities (one african-american, one hispanic-american) would be pluses.

    but i am intrigued by the idea of someone who is an organizational genius leading quietly, allowing the candidates to take the front line actions.

  17. Terrye says:

    I hear that Newt might be backing out and endorsing Steele. Over at Hot Air

  18. kathie says:

    Just wondering……..congress has decimated the energy industry and the auto industry, I wonder what is next?

  19. kathie says:

    Oh I forgot the housing market. Only 2 years in power. What a great record!

  20. crosspatch says:

    The housing market was only partially Congress’ fault. Two other things came into play. 1: Bush left too many Clinton appointees in positions of authority. He should have banished them (like Clinton did) as soon as he took office. 2: The fed had interest rates at ridiculously low levels for a ridiculously long period of time. I guess people had forgotten that rates also rise. So when it came time to finally defend the dollar and raise rates, many of the people put into adjustable rate mortgages they could barely afford saw their payment go up and they defaulted. Then the entire string of dominoes started to fall.

    The fallout is going to be widespread. A lot of cars and RVs were purchased with home equity loans. Same with college tuition. Same with remodeling and refurnishing of homes. People were using their home equity like an ATM machine. Well, that machine is now dry.

    Every market segment that got a substantial portion of their business through home equity loans … roofers, siding companies, furniture stores, boat dealers, RV dealers … are all going to be singing the blues until home values recover.