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		<title>By: Voices without Votes &#187; &#8216;True&#8217; Conservatism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voices without Votes &#187; &#8216;True&#8217; Conservatism</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] blogger A.J. Strata wrote a post today for which he is poised to take a lot of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bloodyspartan</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7177/comment-page-3#comment-414624</link>
		<dc:creator>bloodyspartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ ,
WHat happened to my rant are you mad because I said I wanted to kick you ass for picking on us conservatives again,


Be Well  and healthy so we can have a Huge battle and to the victor go the spoils</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ ,<br />
WHat happened to my rant are you mad because I said I wanted to kick you ass for picking on us conservatives again,</p>
<p>Be Well  and healthy so we can have a Huge battle and to the victor go the spoils</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats are all over the place on the immigration issue.   But, they clearly seem to be backing down on the amnesty talk:

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â€¦Pelosi also said Congress would have to tackle the politically sticky job of overhauling immigration laws in the new Congress, after a bipartisan measure collapsed last year.

The estimated 12 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally &quot;are part of the U.S. economy. We cannot send them all home, and we cannot send them all to jail, so we have to address it,&quot; Pelosi said.

Any solution would have to be bipartisan, she said, so it may require sacrificing some of Democrats&#039; past priorities, such as giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

&quot;Maybe there never is a path to citizenship if you came here illegally,&quot; Pelosi said. &quot;I would hope that there could be, but maybe there isn&#039;t.&quot;

LA TIMES 
http://migramatters.blogspot.com/2008/10/pelosi-backs-away-from-cornerstone-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats are all over the place on the immigration issue.   But, they clearly seem to be backing down on the amnesty talk:</p>
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<p>â€¦Pelosi also said Congress would have to tackle the politically sticky job of overhauling immigration laws in the new Congress, after a bipartisan measure collapsed last year.</p>
<p>The estimated 12 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally &#8220;are part of the U.S. economy. We cannot send them all home, and we cannot send them all to jail, so we have to address it,&#8221; Pelosi said.</p>
<p>Any solution would have to be bipartisan, she said, so it may require sacrificing some of Democrats&#8217; past priorities, such as giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe there never is a path to citizenship if you came here illegally,&#8221; Pelosi said. &#8220;I would hope that there could be, but maybe there isn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>LA TIMES<br />
<a href="http://migramatters.blogspot.com/2008/10/pelosi-backs-away-from-cornerstone-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://migramatters.blogspot.com/2008/10/pelosi-backs-away-from-cornerstone-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, agimarc.   Say on, say on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, agimarc.   Say on, say on.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama recently said that his aunt, who is an illegal alien, was violating the laws, and the laws should be obeyed.... suggesting she should be deported.     

That &quot;conservative purist&quot; bastard.   LOL!

It&#039;s hard to know where the Dems will take immigration once they are fully in charge.   We do have mixed signals.   Words.   I guess we will find which are &quot;true&quot; and which were &quot;political pandering&quot;.....

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Obamaâ€™s selection of Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff actually bodes well for immigration. Itâ€™s not that heâ€™s a nice guy, like the Josh Lyman character on West Wing that he inspired. As Yuval Levin recently wrote at The Corner, Emanuel is â€œa vicious graceless partisan: narrow, hectic, unremittingly aggressive, vulgar, and impatient.â€ But it is precisely this partisanship, combined with an awareness of the visceral public sentiment on immigration, that has led him to counsel caution for his party on the issue. To the chagrin of hard-left activists, Emanuel has said of immigration that &quot;For the American people, and therefore all of us, it&#039;s emerged as the third rail of American politics. And anyone who doesn&#039;t realize that isn&#039;t with the American people.â€ Last year Emanuel told a Hispanic activist that â€œthere is no way this legislation [â€œcomprehensive immigration reformâ€] is happening in the Democratic House, in the Democratic Senate, in the Democratic presidency, in the first term.â€ 

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThkYjNlNzZlY2NiYTE0YTk3YWFlMDEwNzhlZWVkMDg=

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And, in the meantime, all across the nation.....the people are speaking.    Illegal immigration is being cracked down in just about every city across the nation fully backed by &quot;we the people&quot;.

Sorry, AJ, I have nothing but respect for you.....I will still respectfully disagree with you on this issue.   My sense is....Americans want the border enforced, immigration controlled, and then to sit back--take a breather--and figure out what to do with those who are here illegally in a reasonable and kind way.  Let&#039;s enforce the border and enforce the laws first.   It&#039;s the American way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama recently said that his aunt, who is an illegal alien, was violating the laws, and the laws should be obeyed&#8230;. suggesting she should be deported.     </p>
<p>That &#8220;conservative purist&#8221; bastard.   LOL!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to know where the Dems will take immigration once they are fully in charge.   We do have mixed signals.   Words.   I guess we will find which are &#8220;true&#8221; and which were &#8220;political pandering&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>**********</p>
<p>Obamaâ€™s selection of Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff actually bodes well for immigration. Itâ€™s not that heâ€™s a nice guy, like the Josh Lyman character on West Wing that he inspired. As Yuval Levin recently wrote at The Corner, Emanuel is â€œa vicious graceless partisan: narrow, hectic, unremittingly aggressive, vulgar, and impatient.â€ But it is precisely this partisanship, combined with an awareness of the visceral public sentiment on immigration, that has led him to counsel caution for his party on the issue. To the chagrin of hard-left activists, Emanuel has said of immigration that &#8220;For the American people, and therefore all of us, it&#8217;s emerged as the third rail of American politics. And anyone who doesn&#8217;t realize that isn&#8217;t with the American people.â€ Last year Emanuel told a Hispanic activist that â€œthere is no way this legislation [â€œcomprehensive immigration reformâ€] is happening in the Democratic House, in the Democratic Senate, in the Democratic presidency, in the first term.â€ </p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThkYjNlNzZlY2NiYTE0YTk3YWFlMDEwNzhlZWVkMDg" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThkYjNlNzZlY2NiYTE0YTk3YWFlMDEwNzhlZWVkMDg</a>=</p>
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<p>And, in the meantime, all across the nation&#8230;..the people are speaking.    Illegal immigration is being cracked down in just about every city across the nation fully backed by &#8220;we the people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sorry, AJ, I have nothing but respect for you&#8230;..I will still respectfully disagree with you on this issue.   My sense is&#8230;.Americans want the border enforced, immigration controlled, and then to sit back&#8211;take a breather&#8211;and figure out what to do with those who are here illegally in a reasonable and kind way.  Let&#8217;s enforce the border and enforce the laws first.   It&#8217;s the American way.</p>
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		<title>By: agimarc</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7177/comment-page-3#comment-414456</link>
		<dc:creator>agimarc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice set of strawmen, AJ.  I disagree with most everything in the post above.

McCain won the nomination via independent and democrat votes in the early primaries.  He then coordinated with Huckabee in the later ones to keep Romney from winning any.  It was a nice tag team that worked well for him.  One of the election reforms that ought to be considered would be that only party members select party nominees.  Another would be a ban on early voting, as it encourages fraud (Ohio is a nice example).  

Immigration was solved by Arizona and Oklahoma, which clamped down a bit on existing laws and the illegals started leaving both states.  You don&#039;t have to deport anyone - yet another strawman.  Simply enforce existing laws and they will leave the same way that they came in.  We are about to see a different solution when McCain, Graham and the deocrats team up on an amnesty bill that will leagalize all the illegals currently in the country.  

Harriet Meiers was viewed as a crony - nothing more and nothing less.

Bush will end his 8 years in office with the fewest judicial nominees in the last half century because of democrat obstructionism.  Now Obama gets to fill those seats with some real activists, which means somewhere down the road a congress will have to clean house with the appellate courts - which they can simply by disestablishing the circuit courts.  The Gang of 14 did not help this situation any.

Actually Dubai Ports World was an intelligence disaster, as there was a side deal to allow intelligence agents to work the ports worldwide where the goods were coming from.  The democrats could have pushed it through and made the Republicans look foolish, but they were too busy bashing all things Bush to do that - something about party over country.

Finally, prescription drugs would have been far better handled via a free market solution, FDA reform, and lawsuit reform than creating yet another $400 billion entitlement.  But you are too busy bashing conservatives to consider a better way.

Don&#039;t let your moderation blind you to other explanations and other solutions.  Conservatives aren&#039;t the enemy.  The marxists now infesting congress, the bureaucracy and the executive are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice set of strawmen, AJ.  I disagree with most everything in the post above.</p>
<p>McCain won the nomination via independent and democrat votes in the early primaries.  He then coordinated with Huckabee in the later ones to keep Romney from winning any.  It was a nice tag team that worked well for him.  One of the election reforms that ought to be considered would be that only party members select party nominees.  Another would be a ban on early voting, as it encourages fraud (Ohio is a nice example).  </p>
<p>Immigration was solved by Arizona and Oklahoma, which clamped down a bit on existing laws and the illegals started leaving both states.  You don&#8217;t have to deport anyone &#8211; yet another strawman.  Simply enforce existing laws and they will leave the same way that they came in.  We are about to see a different solution when McCain, Graham and the deocrats team up on an amnesty bill that will leagalize all the illegals currently in the country.  </p>
<p>Harriet Meiers was viewed as a crony &#8211; nothing more and nothing less.</p>
<p>Bush will end his 8 years in office with the fewest judicial nominees in the last half century because of democrat obstructionism.  Now Obama gets to fill those seats with some real activists, which means somewhere down the road a congress will have to clean house with the appellate courts &#8211; which they can simply by disestablishing the circuit courts.  The Gang of 14 did not help this situation any.</p>
<p>Actually Dubai Ports World was an intelligence disaster, as there was a side deal to allow intelligence agents to work the ports worldwide where the goods were coming from.  The democrats could have pushed it through and made the Republicans look foolish, but they were too busy bashing all things Bush to do that &#8211; something about party over country.</p>
<p>Finally, prescription drugs would have been far better handled via a free market solution, FDA reform, and lawsuit reform than creating yet another $400 billion entitlement.  But you are too busy bashing conservatives to consider a better way.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let your moderation blind you to other explanations and other solutions.  Conservatives aren&#8217;t the enemy.  The marxists now infesting congress, the bureaucracy and the executive are.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7177/comment-page-3#comment-414454</link>
		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only problem with DeMint&#039;s statement is that he should replace the term &quot;religious based values&quot; with &quot;family based values&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only problem with DeMint&#8217;s statement is that he should replace the term &#8220;religious based values&#8221; with &#8220;family based values&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7177/comment-page-3#comment-414239</link>
		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stevevvs, so you believe they called Pres Bush and asked if it would be ok to give them fake ID&#039;s and SS no&#039;s?  and he said yes?

Are you really that big a moron?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stevevvs, so you believe they called Pres Bush and asked if it would be ok to give them fake ID&#8217;s and SS no&#8217;s?  and he said yes?</p>
<p>Are you really that big a moron?</p>
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		<title>By: stevevvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevevvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, those Conservative Principles sure are being followed by Bush.

Take care everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, those Conservative Principles sure are being followed by Bush.</p>
<p>Take care everyone</p>
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		<title>By: stevevvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevevvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>School supplies fake Social Security numbers to teachers
By Michelle Malkin  â€¢  November 14, 2008 09:39 AM 
Yes, you read that right. A school district in Dallas has been caught supplying fake Social Security numbers to employees. And itâ€™s been going on for years. The Dallas News wonâ€™t come out and say it, but itâ€™s blindingly obvious this school district was cooking up fake Social Security numbers for illegal alien teachers (referred to in the report as â€œforeign educatorsâ€). Which means they committed at least three crimes: ID fraud, hiring illegal aliens, and felonious aiding/abetting illegal aliens.

And then they tried to cover it up.

Your tax dollars at work:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School supplies fake Social Security numbers to teachers<br />
By Michelle Malkin  â€¢  November 14, 2008 09:39 AM<br />
Yes, you read that right. A school district in Dallas has been caught supplying fake Social Security numbers to employees. And itâ€™s been going on for years. The Dallas News wonâ€™t come out and say it, but itâ€™s blindingly obvious this school district was cooking up fake Social Security numbers for illegal alien teachers (referred to in the report as â€œforeign educatorsâ€). Which means they committed at least three crimes: ID fraud, hiring illegal aliens, and felonious aiding/abetting illegal aliens.</p>
<p>And then they tried to cover it up.</p>
<p>Your tax dollars at work:</p>
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		<title>By: stevevvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevevvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gangs in the Military


Posted: Nov 12, 2008 10:54 PM EST 

Updated: Nov 12, 2008 11:49 PM EST 

 

CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) - WBTV On Your Side has obtained picture and video proof our military is being infiltrated by members of street gangs.  In some cases, detectives say gang members are using the tactics learned to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan to commit crimes on the streets of America.  Anchor Molly Grantham is investigating.

They serve and protect under the flag of the United States of America.  They protect our freedoms, and represent our great country.  Some of them are gang members.

&quot;Gangs are on the rise in every major city in the United States,&quot; says Hunter Glass, a gang consultant.  &quot;They&#039;re on the rise in the military.&quot;

Glass is an 82nd Airborne veteran and former gang detective with Fayetteville Police Department.  He left policing in 2006 and now travels the country lecturing about and investigating gang life.

&quot;Putting these people in the military doesn&#039;t change them,&quot; says Glass.  &quot;And you&#039;re certainly not going to kick them all out.  If you start kicking them out... let&#039;s just say it&#039;s one percent of the military... you&#039;re going to kick out 14,000 people?  I don&#039;t think so.

&quot;America has the greatest military in the world,&quot; he continued.  &quot;I was a soldier.  My dad is a veteran.  I love and respect the military.  But I&#039;m also a realist.  I&#039;m telling you, it&#039;s there.  To turn a blind eye isn&#039;t going to help anything.&quot;

WBTV obtained pictures which show gang graffiti in Iraq.  

Images like, a Vice Lords star sprayed on a Humvee.  A picture of four men dressed in fatigues showing off rifles, posted on an 18th Street Gang website.  Another picture shows a guy flashing a gang sign on a &quot;Realize Your Potential&quot; Army recruiting chat room.  Still others capture tanks and bomb walls covered with gang tagging... even a six-pointed 360-degrees intricate gang star pictured in barracks.

But the most unbelievably eye-catching images are on Glass&#039;s computer.  

He shows us home video taken years ago at a popular nightclub on Fort Bragg.  You can see people on the dance floor using their hands to chant &quot;Crips&quot;... while across the room, Blood members are throwing down signs that mean &quot;Crip Killers&quot;.

The video proves gang life is on this North Carolina base.  A Fort Bragg spokesman doesn&#039;t deny it.

&quot;I&#039;m positive there are gang members in the US Army,&quot; says Tom McCollum.  &quot;There are gang members probably here on Fort Bragg also, but we do everything possible to get rid of them.&quot;

McCollum says the Army&#039;s goal is to weed out as much gang activity as possible.  Whenever they do find tattoos or some kind of sign, they pull the soldier off to the side and interview them in-depth.  He says the soldier in question will be watched closely by his or her command to see how elevated and active they are in a gang.

&quot;Are gang members in the military,&quot; he says.  &quot;Yes.  Is it a large problem? It&#039;s not as large of a problem as some people would like to believe.&quot;

As for actual numbers, officials said they had no way of really knowing exactly how many.  Glass estimates about one percent -- which would be about 14-thousand people.  He also says he thinks the military should enact solid laws to deal with the element.  

&quot;In many ways I think the military is robbing Peter to pay Paul,&quot; says Glass.  &quot;It&#039;s a quick fix. We need manpower. We get these guys in here. They&#039;re good dogs in the fight. We&#039;ll worry about it later.&quot;

Later, is now.  These gang members are getting trained in the military and using their knowledge to come back and fight on American streets.  While in California a month ago, we interviewed two L-A County gang investigators in south central Los Angeles.  Just listen to what Detective Adan Torres told us.

&quot;One of the biggest gangbangers around here actually has on his license plate, â€˜Iraq veteran, or veteran Iraq&#039;,&quot; he said. &quot;He&#039;s got F-13 on the back of his head. Florencia on back. F-13 on his arms... and two purple hearts.  Been on two tours of duty.  He&#039;s trained than half the officers here anyway, fighting him.&quot;

That&#039;s the &quot;gotcha&quot; -- hearing veteran gang detectives say some gang members are purple heart recipients who are a better shot than most police.

Those detectives in California listed a couple examples of problematic gang members they see all the time, who are also American soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gangs in the Military</p>
<p>Posted: Nov 12, 2008 10:54 PM EST </p>
<p>Updated: Nov 12, 2008 11:49 PM EST </p>
<p>CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) &#8211; WBTV On Your Side has obtained picture and video proof our military is being infiltrated by members of street gangs.  In some cases, detectives say gang members are using the tactics learned to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan to commit crimes on the streets of America.  Anchor Molly Grantham is investigating.</p>
<p>They serve and protect under the flag of the United States of America.  They protect our freedoms, and represent our great country.  Some of them are gang members.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gangs are on the rise in every major city in the United States,&#8221; says Hunter Glass, a gang consultant.  &#8220;They&#8217;re on the rise in the military.&#8221;</p>
<p>Glass is an 82nd Airborne veteran and former gang detective with Fayetteville Police Department.  He left policing in 2006 and now travels the country lecturing about and investigating gang life.</p>
<p>&#8220;Putting these people in the military doesn&#8217;t change them,&#8221; says Glass.  &#8220;And you&#8217;re certainly not going to kick them all out.  If you start kicking them out&#8230; let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s one percent of the military&#8230; you&#8217;re going to kick out 14,000 people?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>&#8220;America has the greatest military in the world,&#8221; he continued.  &#8220;I was a soldier.  My dad is a veteran.  I love and respect the military.  But I&#8217;m also a realist.  I&#8217;m telling you, it&#8217;s there.  To turn a blind eye isn&#8217;t going to help anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>WBTV obtained pictures which show gang graffiti in Iraq.  </p>
<p>Images like, a Vice Lords star sprayed on a Humvee.  A picture of four men dressed in fatigues showing off rifles, posted on an 18th Street Gang website.  Another picture shows a guy flashing a gang sign on a &#8220;Realize Your Potential&#8221; Army recruiting chat room.  Still others capture tanks and bomb walls covered with gang tagging&#8230; even a six-pointed 360-degrees intricate gang star pictured in barracks.</p>
<p>But the most unbelievably eye-catching images are on Glass&#8217;s computer.  </p>
<p>He shows us home video taken years ago at a popular nightclub on Fort Bragg.  You can see people on the dance floor using their hands to chant &#8220;Crips&#8221;&#8230; while across the room, Blood members are throwing down signs that mean &#8220;Crip Killers&#8221;.</p>
<p>The video proves gang life is on this North Carolina base.  A Fort Bragg spokesman doesn&#8217;t deny it.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m positive there are gang members in the US Army,&#8221; says Tom McCollum.  &#8220;There are gang members probably here on Fort Bragg also, but we do everything possible to get rid of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>McCollum says the Army&#8217;s goal is to weed out as much gang activity as possible.  Whenever they do find tattoos or some kind of sign, they pull the soldier off to the side and interview them in-depth.  He says the soldier in question will be watched closely by his or her command to see how elevated and active they are in a gang.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are gang members in the military,&#8221; he says.  &#8220;Yes.  Is it a large problem? It&#8217;s not as large of a problem as some people would like to believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for actual numbers, officials said they had no way of really knowing exactly how many.  Glass estimates about one percent &#8212; which would be about 14-thousand people.  He also says he thinks the military should enact solid laws to deal with the element.  </p>
<p>&#8220;In many ways I think the military is robbing Peter to pay Paul,&#8221; says Glass.  &#8220;It&#8217;s a quick fix. We need manpower. We get these guys in here. They&#8217;re good dogs in the fight. We&#8217;ll worry about it later.&#8221;</p>
<p>Later, is now.  These gang members are getting trained in the military and using their knowledge to come back and fight on American streets.  While in California a month ago, we interviewed two L-A County gang investigators in south central Los Angeles.  Just listen to what Detective Adan Torres told us.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the biggest gangbangers around here actually has on his license plate, â€˜Iraq veteran, or veteran Iraq&#8217;,&#8221; he said. &#8220;He&#8217;s got F-13 on the back of his head. Florencia on back. F-13 on his arms&#8230; and two purple hearts.  Been on two tours of duty.  He&#8217;s trained than half the officers here anyway, fighting him.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;gotcha&#8221; &#8212; hearing veteran gang detectives say some gang members are purple heart recipients who are a better shot than most police.</p>
<p>Those detectives in California listed a couple examples of problematic gang members they see all the time, who are also American soldiers.</p>
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		<description>http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/585/Default.aspx

snip:

the US State Department has confirmed that tens of thousands of Somalis have entered the US illegally through the US Refugee Admissions (P-3 family reunification) Program, possibly for as long as 20 years.

GRANT THEM AMNESTY! Along with Obama&#039;s welfare receiving Aunt! A deportation Alien Fugitive.

and the 20 million others here &quot;Doing the jobs Americans wont do&quot;. ...at $6.00 per hour.</description>
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<p>snip:</p>
<p>the US State Department has confirmed that tens of thousands of Somalis have entered the US illegally through the US Refugee Admissions (P-3 family reunification) Program, possibly for as long as 20 years.</p>
<p>GRANT THEM AMNESTY! Along with Obama&#8217;s welfare receiving Aunt! A deportation Alien Fugitive.</p>
<p>and the 20 million others here &#8220;Doing the jobs Americans wont do&#8221;. &#8230;at $6.00 per hour.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œPeople donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians. They have no government, no soldiers, and no power,â€ he said. â€œChristianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?â€

I notice, but I don&#039;t suffer from B.D.S., in either direction.

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/581/Default.aspx

Snip:

Here is an 11/14 Instapundit report from Michael Yon, who is in Iraq. The post begins with a quotation: &quot;THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON.&quot; Yon goes to to say: &quot;There&#039;s nothing going on. I&#039;m with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I&#039;m with haven&#039;t fired their weapons on this tour and they&#039;ve been here eight months. And the place we&#039;re at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there&#039;s nothing going on. ... I&#039;ve been asking Iraqis, &#039;do you think the violence will kick up again,&#039; but even the Iraqi journalists are sounding optimistic now and they&#039;re usually dour.&quot;

Elsewhere, there was a string of bombings in Baghdad yesterday, but the fact remains that Americans, myself very much included, are eager to declare the war over. But I still have a fundamental, non-answered--and worse, non-asked!--question about what it is we stand to win in Iraq--and, by extension, in Afghanistan. Do we get an ally in arms and spirit--a la post-WWII Denmark? Or just another OPEC state, riven by Islamic sectarian rivalries, hostile to Western-style liberties (press, religion, etc.), a boycotter of Israel, a supporter of jihadist groups such as Hezbollah (which Iraq expressed support for in Hezbollah&#039;s 2006 war with Israel), a friend to Iran?

Also yesterday, I came across a report (sent in by Jeffrey Imm) about a Sunni Iraqi reaction to the outrageous murders in Mosul this week of two US soldiers by an Iraqi soldier. The men killed were Spc. Corey Shea, 21, and Sgt. Jose Regalado, 23. Here&#039;s the AP report of the incident:

An Iraqi soldier Wednesday sprayed automatic weapons fire at U.S. soldiers at an Iraqi military base in Mosul, killing two and wounding six before he died in a hail of bullets, an American general said. ...


In case you want facts. The host here isn&#039;t into them on much of anything these days, sadly.

Enjoy your Sunday evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œPeople donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians. They have no government, no soldiers, and no power,â€ he said. â€œChristianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?â€</p>
<p>I notice, but I don&#8217;t suffer from B.D.S., in either direction.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/581/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/581/Default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Snip:</p>
<p>Here is an 11/14 Instapundit report from Michael Yon, who is in Iraq. The post begins with a quotation: &#8220;THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON.&#8221; Yon goes to to say: &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing going on. I&#8217;m with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I&#8217;m with haven&#8217;t fired their weapons on this tour and they&#8217;ve been here eight months. And the place we&#8217;re at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there&#8217;s nothing going on. &#8230; I&#8217;ve been asking Iraqis, &#8216;do you think the violence will kick up again,&#8217; but even the Iraqi journalists are sounding optimistic now and they&#8217;re usually dour.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elsewhere, there was a string of bombings in Baghdad yesterday, but the fact remains that Americans, myself very much included, are eager to declare the war over. But I still have a fundamental, non-answered&#8211;and worse, non-asked!&#8211;question about what it is we stand to win in Iraq&#8211;and, by extension, in Afghanistan. Do we get an ally in arms and spirit&#8211;a la post-WWII Denmark? Or just another OPEC state, riven by Islamic sectarian rivalries, hostile to Western-style liberties (press, religion, etc.), a boycotter of Israel, a supporter of jihadist groups such as Hezbollah (which Iraq expressed support for in Hezbollah&#8217;s 2006 war with Israel), a friend to Iran?</p>
<p>Also yesterday, I came across a report (sent in by Jeffrey Imm) about a Sunni Iraqi reaction to the outrageous murders in Mosul this week of two US soldiers by an Iraqi soldier. The men killed were Spc. Corey Shea, 21, and Sgt. Jose Regalado, 23. Here&#8217;s the AP report of the incident:</p>
<p>An Iraqi soldier Wednesday sprayed automatic weapons fire at U.S. soldiers at an Iraqi military base in Mosul, killing two and wounding six before he died in a hail of bullets, an American general said. &#8230;</p>
<p>In case you want facts. The host here isn&#8217;t into them on much of anything these days, sadly.</p>
<p>Enjoy your Sunday evening.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians ... Christianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?&quot;
Surely there is an element of denial in much of the West: Any day now, things will settle down, and the vaunted peaceful and pluralistic teachings of Islam will kick in... right?

&quot;Iraq - Fleeing Christians face new hardships in Turkey,&quot; from Compass Direct News, November 14:

ISTANBUL, November 14 (Compass Direct News) â€“ In this Turkish cityâ€™s working-class neighborhood of Kurtulus, Arabic can be heard on the streets, signs are printed in the Arabic alphabet and Iraqis congregate in tea shops.
In 99-percent Muslim Turkey, most of these Iraqis are not Muslims. And they are not in Turkey by choice. They are Christian refugees who fled their homeland to escape the murderous violence that increasingly has been directed at them.
It is hard to tell how many of Mosulâ€™s refugees from the recent wave of attacks have made their way to Istanbul, but finding these residents here is not hard. A middle-aged Iraqi refugee who fled Mosul five months ago now attends a Syrian Orthodox Church in the poverty-stricken neighborhood of Tarlabasi, where gypsies, transvestites, and immigrants from Turkeyâ€™s east live in hopes of a better life in Istanbul.
Declining to give his name, the refugee said there is no future for Christians in Iraq and that nearly everyone he knew there wanted to leave the country. He said the only hope for Iraqi Christians is for Western countries to open their doors to Christian Iraqi refugees.
â€œWe donâ€™t have hope,â€ he said. â€œIf these doors arenâ€™t opened, we will be killed.â€
Since October, violence in Mosul has pushed more than 12,000 Christians from their homes and left more than two dozen dead, according to U.N. and Christian organizations. In the face of Mosul violence, Iraqi Christians flee to Turkey before settling permanently in another country, usually in a place where their family has gone out before them.
Christian Sisters Killed
Weeks after the mass exodus of Mosul Christians to surrounding villages, Turkey and other nations, around one-third of families reportedly have returned due to the presence of 35,000 army and police and the Iraqi government offering cash grants of up to $800.
But those returning Christians were shaken again on Wednesday (Nov. 12), when Islamic militants stormed into the house of two Syrian Catholic sisters, Lamiaâ€™a Sabih and Walaâ€™a Saloha, killing them and severely injuring their mother. They then bombed their house and detonated a second explosive when the police arrived, which killed three more.
The Christian family had recently returned after having fled Mosul. Many believe this attack will deter other Christians from returning to Mosul, and there are reports of Christians again leaving the area.
There has been a steady exodus of Christians from Iraq since the first Gulf War in 1991. The church in Iraq dates from the beginning of Christianity, but the population has plummeted by 50 percent in the last 20 years. The outflow of Iraqi Christians spiked in 2003 following the U.S.-led invasion.
Although Iraq as a whole has seen a dramatic decrease in violence due to last yearâ€™s surge in U.S. troops, the flight of Christians to Turkey has grown. One-third of the 18,000 refugees who registered in Turkey last year are from Iraq. In Syria, an estimated 40 percent of the 1.2 million Iraqis who have fled Iraq are Christians, though they make up only about 3 percent of Iraqâ€™s population.
Monsignor Francois Yakan, the 50-year-old leader of the Chaldean Church in Turkey, said all Iraqi refugees are undergoing hardships regardless of religion, but that the situation is especially difficult for Christians since there is less support for them in Turkey.
â€œMuslims have the same difficulty as Christians, but there are more foundations to assist them,â€ he said. â€œThe government notices Muslim immigrants, but nobody pays attention to us.â€
Yakan travels to other countries to raise awareness of the plight of Iraqi Christians, trying to marshal the support of government and church leaders â€“ last week he traveled to France, Romania and Germany. If Western governments donâ€™t wake up to this crisis, he said, the results could be catastrophic.
â€œPeople donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians. They have no government, no soldiers, and no power,â€ he said. â€œChristianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?â€ 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians &#8230; Christianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?&#8221;<br />
Surely there is an element of denial in much of the West: Any day now, things will settle down, and the vaunted peaceful and pluralistic teachings of Islam will kick in&#8230; right?</p>
<p>&#8220;Iraq &#8211; Fleeing Christians face new hardships in Turkey,&#8221; from Compass Direct News, November 14:</p>
<p>ISTANBUL, November 14 (Compass Direct News) â€“ In this Turkish cityâ€™s working-class neighborhood of Kurtulus, Arabic can be heard on the streets, signs are printed in the Arabic alphabet and Iraqis congregate in tea shops.<br />
In 99-percent Muslim Turkey, most of these Iraqis are not Muslims. And they are not in Turkey by choice. They are Christian refugees who fled their homeland to escape the murderous violence that increasingly has been directed at them.<br />
It is hard to tell how many of Mosulâ€™s refugees from the recent wave of attacks have made their way to Istanbul, but finding these residents here is not hard. A middle-aged Iraqi refugee who fled Mosul five months ago now attends a Syrian Orthodox Church in the poverty-stricken neighborhood of Tarlabasi, where gypsies, transvestites, and immigrants from Turkeyâ€™s east live in hopes of a better life in Istanbul.<br />
Declining to give his name, the refugee said there is no future for Christians in Iraq and that nearly everyone he knew there wanted to leave the country. He said the only hope for Iraqi Christians is for Western countries to open their doors to Christian Iraqi refugees.<br />
â€œWe donâ€™t have hope,â€ he said. â€œIf these doors arenâ€™t opened, we will be killed.â€<br />
Since October, violence in Mosul has pushed more than 12,000 Christians from their homes and left more than two dozen dead, according to U.N. and Christian organizations. In the face of Mosul violence, Iraqi Christians flee to Turkey before settling permanently in another country, usually in a place where their family has gone out before them.<br />
Christian Sisters Killed<br />
Weeks after the mass exodus of Mosul Christians to surrounding villages, Turkey and other nations, around one-third of families reportedly have returned due to the presence of 35,000 army and police and the Iraqi government offering cash grants of up to $800.<br />
But those returning Christians were shaken again on Wednesday (Nov. 12), when Islamic militants stormed into the house of two Syrian Catholic sisters, Lamiaâ€™a Sabih and Walaâ€™a Saloha, killing them and severely injuring their mother. They then bombed their house and detonated a second explosive when the police arrived, which killed three more.<br />
The Christian family had recently returned after having fled Mosul. Many believe this attack will deter other Christians from returning to Mosul, and there are reports of Christians again leaving the area.<br />
There has been a steady exodus of Christians from Iraq since the first Gulf War in 1991. The church in Iraq dates from the beginning of Christianity, but the population has plummeted by 50 percent in the last 20 years. The outflow of Iraqi Christians spiked in 2003 following the U.S.-led invasion.<br />
Although Iraq as a whole has seen a dramatic decrease in violence due to last yearâ€™s surge in U.S. troops, the flight of Christians to Turkey has grown. One-third of the 18,000 refugees who registered in Turkey last year are from Iraq. In Syria, an estimated 40 percent of the 1.2 million Iraqis who have fled Iraq are Christians, though they make up only about 3 percent of Iraqâ€™s population.<br />
Monsignor Francois Yakan, the 50-year-old leader of the Chaldean Church in Turkey, said all Iraqi refugees are undergoing hardships regardless of religion, but that the situation is especially difficult for Christians since there is less support for them in Turkey.<br />
â€œMuslims have the same difficulty as Christians, but there are more foundations to assist them,â€ he said. â€œThe government notices Muslim immigrants, but nobody pays attention to us.â€<br />
Yakan travels to other countries to raise awareness of the plight of Iraqi Christians, trying to marshal the support of government and church leaders â€“ last week he traveled to France, Romania and Germany. If Western governments donâ€™t wake up to this crisis, he said, the results could be catastrophic.<br />
â€œPeople donâ€™t know the plight of Iraqi Christians. They have no government, no soldiers, and no power,â€ he said. â€œChristianity in Iraq is ending. Why arenâ€™t they noticing this?â€<br />
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		<description>WOW! He&#039;s off his meds again! 

Some people are just so confussed. I am sending tis to everyone I know, with my comments inserted. It&#039;s truely remarkable.

Somehow, despite them not having enough votes, conservatives ruined everything. 

Even Conservatives, and ONLY Conservatives, stopped the Bush, McCain, Kennedy Amnesty bill. Dillusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! He&#8217;s off his meds again! </p>
<p>Some people are just so confussed. I am sending tis to everyone I know, with my comments inserted. It&#8217;s truely remarkable.</p>
<p>Somehow, despite them not having enough votes, conservatives ruined everything. </p>
<p>Even Conservatives, and ONLY Conservatives, stopped the Bush, McCain, Kennedy Amnesty bill. Dillusional.</p>
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