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		<title>By: satish</title>
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		<dc:creator>satish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have read so many magzines about obama, he z a great president&amp;his speeches impressed me alot..  http://www.evildrome.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have read so many magzines about obama, he z a great president&amp;his speeches impressed me alot..  <a href="http://www.evildrome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.evildrome.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: searcher</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 11:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve downloaded some of the most popular of the latest Obama&#039;s speeches through this file search engine - http://rapidok.com and followed them carefully and analyzed his concepts involving some extra sources. I agree with you in many points, but from my point of view you should not be that critical about his strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve downloaded some of the most popular of the latest Obama&#8217;s speeches through this file search engine &#8211; <a href="http://rapidok.com" rel="nofollow">http://rapidok.com</a> and followed them carefully and analyzed his concepts involving some extra sources. I agree with you in many points, but from my point of view you should not be that critical about his strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: webby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, what Obama is good and smart president. 
I read many news (on http://news.google.com ), download many videos (from http://rapidpedia.com ).  I believe  in Obama. I believe  in USA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, what Obama is good and smart president.<br />
I read many news (on <a href="http://news.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://news.google.com</a> ), download many videos (from <a href="http://rapidpedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://rapidpedia.com</a> ).  I believe  in Obama. I believe  in USA!</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Team Obama Was The Side Pressuring For Senate Successor - Not Team Blagojevich</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Team Obama Was The Side Pressuring For Senate Successor - Not Team Blagojevich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Team Obama may have been able to dance around a greedy governor asking for gain in return for selecting a preferred senate replacement. But all the over-crafted Obama responses are going to explode in his face if it turns out he was the one who was out of bounds. The President-Elect may make his wishes known, but if he was putting political or financial pressure on a sitting Governor to override his choice for the Senate Obama is going to be truly damaged goods. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Team Obama may have been able to dance around a greedy governor asking for gain in return for selecting a preferred senate replacement. But all the over-crafted Obama responses are going to explode in his face if it turns out he was the one who was out of bounds. The President-Elect may make his wishes known, but if he was putting political or financial pressure on a sitting Governor to override his choice for the Senate Obama is going to be truly damaged goods. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Where Will The Rahm-Blag Discussions Lead?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Where Will The Rahm-Blag Discussions Lead?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the senate seat selection to fill Obama&#8217;s now vacant seat was more than Team Obama let on in their big awkward news conference on the matter.Â What we have seen is Rahm Emmanuel coordinating Obama&#8217;s preferences for his replacement with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the senate seat selection to fill Obama&#8217;s now vacant seat was more than Team Obama let on in their big awkward news conference on the matter.Â What we have seen is Rahm Emmanuel coordinating Obama&#8217;s preferences for his replacement with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s what I call fast response time!

I decided to access Miss Herlihy&#039;s research paper again today.

Guess what?

File not found.

I should not be surprised. Always download anything interesting to your
own computer, don&#039;t just save the link.

But her paper, about the possibility of getting rid of the Natural Born
clause from the US Constitution, disappeared overnight. Sarah P. Herlihy
is still there, but her paper is not. Maybe it is just some technical problem.
Maybe her paper will appear again tomorrow. Let us hope so.

Obama knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s what I call fast response time!</p>
<p>I decided to access Miss Herlihy&#8217;s research paper again today.</p>
<p>Guess what?</p>
<p>File not found.</p>
<p>I should not be surprised. Always download anything interesting to your<br />
own computer, don&#8217;t just save the link.</p>
<p>But her paper, about the possibility of getting rid of the Natural Born<br />
clause from the US Constitution, disappeared overnight. Sarah P. Herlihy<br />
is still there, but her paper is not. Maybe it is just some technical problem.<br />
Maybe her paper will appear again tomorrow. Let us hope so.</p>
<p>Obama knows.</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I found this tipoff from one of the best posters over at Texasdarlin

Mary writes:
I was doing some reading on the SCOTUS blogs and read this : http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html
â€¦â€clerks from the chambers of four conservative justices (Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, and Kennedy) sort themselves ideologically in their career trajectory: Since 1990, they increasingly go to conservative law schools or to law firms with prominent conservative mentors such as Kirkland &amp; Ellisâ€â€¦
I remembered that name Kirkland &amp; Ellis and looked it up - http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural
Yes, that is why I remembered it - Obama supporters and the lawfirm that had looked into the natural born aspect of the Constitution around the time that the pres-elect started his campaign.
The interesting article â€œAMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLEâ€
â€œThe natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€
I am now wondering about SCOTUS remaining unbiased in their denials â€¦ I donâ€™t know how anyone could NOT find this disturbing. No â€˜proofâ€™ but WOW what a coincidence! Iâ€™d hate to believe that there is â€˜no justiceâ€™ (especially in the high courts). I, along with I am sure millions of others think that the entire issue needs to be resolved once and for all - someone has to speak up for the people of this country. Simple dismissials without given reasons are NOT acceptable!

Here&#039;s the entry she is referring to:
http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural

Gosh, I Really Hope Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. But Why, Why, Why, Did He Have Kirkland &amp; Ellis Try to Re-write the Clause in 2006?

wallstreetcaptain 4 days ago

Obama&#039;s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement right as he starts his presidential run?
::
Coincidence?

http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0 :
If the Facts Donâ€™t Support the Theory, Destroy the Facts

Comment left by: CreativeOgre:

While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. Itâ€™s title

AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

caught my eye, and had to read itâ€¦

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf

I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?

So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland &amp; Ellis LLP http://www.kirkland.com

Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter.

Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that
Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm â€¦ temID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)

In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the â€ Illinois Venture Capital Associationâ€™s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital communityâ€ presented by Sen. Barack Obama

So it sure looks like Obamaâ€™s people have looked into the matter of â€œNatural bornâ€ as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of:

â€œIf the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!â€

Here is the introduction to the paperâ€¦ It looks like a road map for Obamaâ€™s defense lawyersâ€¦And a precursor to a Socialist world.



AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

SARAH P. HERLIHY*

INTRODUCTION

The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€

Since Arnold Schwarzeneggerâ€™s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.

In addition to Governor Schwarzenegger, the natural born citizen clause prohibits many other prominent Americans from becoming president, including Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, and over 700 Medal of Honor Winners.

Even though many of these individuals have served in high political positions or fought in a war on behalf of America, they are not able to become president simply because they were not born in the United States.

The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is out-dated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty.



OBAMA KNOWS HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.

I rest my case</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I found this tipoff from one of the best posters over at Texasdarlin</p>
<p>Mary writes:<br />
I was doing some reading on the SCOTUS blogs and read this : <a href="http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html" rel="nofollow">http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html</a><br />
â€¦â€clerks from the chambers of four conservative justices (Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, and Kennedy) sort themselves ideologically in their career trajectory: Since 1990, they increasingly go to conservative law schools or to law firms with prominent conservative mentors such as Kirkland &amp; Ellisâ€â€¦<br />
I remembered that name Kirkland &amp; Ellis and looked it up &#8211; <a href="http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural" rel="nofollow">http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural</a><br />
Yes, that is why I remembered it &#8211; Obama supporters and the lawfirm that had looked into the natural born aspect of the Constitution around the time that the pres-elect started his campaign.<br />
The interesting article â€œAMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLEâ€<br />
â€œThe natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€<br />
I am now wondering about SCOTUS remaining unbiased in their denials â€¦ I donâ€™t know how anyone could NOT find this disturbing. No â€˜proofâ€™ but WOW what a coincidence! Iâ€™d hate to believe that there is â€˜no justiceâ€™ (especially in the high courts). I, along with I am sure millions of others think that the entire issue needs to be resolved once and for all &#8211; someone has to speak up for the people of this country. Simple dismissials without given reasons are NOT acceptable!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the entry she is referring to:<br />
<a href="http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural" rel="nofollow">http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural</a></p>
<p>Gosh, I Really Hope Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. But Why, Why, Why, Did He Have Kirkland &amp; Ellis Try to Re-write the Clause in 2006?</p>
<p>wallstreetcaptain 4 days ago</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement right as he starts his presidential run?<br />
::<br />
Coincidence?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0</a> :<br />
If the Facts Donâ€™t Support the Theory, Destroy the Facts</p>
<p>Comment left by: CreativeOgre:</p>
<p>While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. Itâ€™s title</p>
<p>AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE</p>
<p>caught my eye, and had to read itâ€¦</p>
<p><a href="http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf</a></p>
<p>I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?</p>
<p>So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland &amp; Ellis LLP <a href="http://www.kirkland.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirkland.com</a></p>
<p>Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter.</p>
<p>Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that<br />
Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm</a> â€¦ temID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)</p>
<p>In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the â€ Illinois Venture Capital Associationâ€™s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital communityâ€ presented by Sen. Barack Obama</p>
<p>So it sure looks like Obamaâ€™s people have looked into the matter of â€œNatural bornâ€ as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of:</p>
<p>â€œIf the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!â€</p>
<p>Here is the introduction to the paperâ€¦ It looks like a road map for Obamaâ€™s defense lawyersâ€¦And a precursor to a Socialist world.</p>
<p>AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE</p>
<p>SARAH P. HERLIHY*</p>
<p>INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€</p>
<p>Since Arnold Schwarzeneggerâ€™s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency.</p>
<p>Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:</p>
<p>No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.</p>
<p>Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.</p>
<p>In addition to Governor Schwarzenegger, the natural born citizen clause prohibits many other prominent Americans from becoming president, including Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, and over 700 Medal of Honor Winners.</p>
<p>Even though many of these individuals have served in high political positions or fought in a war on behalf of America, they are not able to become president simply because they were not born in the United States.</p>
<p>The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is out-dated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty.</p>
<p>OBAMA KNOWS HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.</p>
<p>I rest my case</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, OBAMA KNOWS
He started his lawyers in 2006 to look at ways of getting around
the Natural Born clause.

First I found this tipoff from one of the best posters over at Texasdarlin

Mary writes:
I was doing some reading on the SCOTUS blogs and read this : http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html
â€¦â€clerks from the chambers of four conservative justices (Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, and Kennedy) sort themselves ideologically in their career trajectory: Since 1990, they increasingly go to conservative law schools or to law firms with prominent conservative mentors such as Kirkland &amp; Ellisâ€â€¦
I remembered that name Kirkland &amp; Ellis and looked it up - http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural
Yes, that is why I remembered it - Obama supporters and the lawfirm that had looked into the natural born aspect of the Constitution around the time that the pres-elect started his campaign.
The interesting article â€œAMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLEâ€
â€œThe natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€
I am now wondering about SCOTUS remaining unbiased in their denials â€¦ I donâ€™t know how anyone could NOT find this disturbing. No â€˜proofâ€™ but WOW what a coincidence! Iâ€™d hate to believe that there is â€˜no justiceâ€™ (especially in the high courts). I, along with I am sure millions of others think that the entire issue needs to be resolved once and for all - someone has to speak up for the people of this country. Simple dismissials without given reasons are NOT acceptable!

Here&#039;s the entry she is referring to:
http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural

Gosh, I Really Hope Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. But Why, Why, Why, Did He Have Kirkland &amp; Ellis Try to Re-write the Clause in 2006?

wallstreetcaptain 4 days ago

Obama&#039;s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement right as he starts his presidential run?
::
Coincidence?

http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0 :
If the Facts Donâ€™t Support the Theory, Destroy the Facts

Comment left by: CreativeOgre:

While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. Itâ€™s title

AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

caught my eye, and had to read itâ€¦

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf

I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?

So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland &amp; Ellis LLP http://www.kirkland.com

Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter.

Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that
Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm â€¦ temID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)

In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the â€ Illinois Venture Capital Associationâ€™s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital communityâ€ presented by Sen. Barack Obama

So it sure looks like Obamaâ€™s people have looked into the matter of â€œNatural bornâ€ as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of:

â€œIf the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!â€

Here is the introduction to the paperâ€¦ It looks like a road map for Obamaâ€™s defense lawyersâ€¦And a precursor to a Socialist world.



AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

SARAH P. HERLIHY*

INTRODUCTION

The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€

Since Arnold Schwarzeneggerâ€™s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.

In addition to Governor Schwarzenegger, the natural born citizen clause prohibits many other prominent Americans from becoming president, including Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, and over 700 Medal of Honor Winners.

Even though many of these individuals have served in high political positions or fought in a war on behalf of America, they are not able to become president simply because they were not born in the United States.

The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is out-dated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty.



OBAMA KNOWS HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.

I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, OBAMA KNOWS<br />
He started his lawyers in 2006 to look at ways of getting around<br />
the Natural Born clause.</p>
<p>First I found this tipoff from one of the best posters over at Texasdarlin</p>
<p>Mary writes:<br />
I was doing some reading on the SCOTUS blogs and read this : <a href="http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html" rel="nofollow">http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/12/ideological-polarization-among-scotus-clerks.html</a><br />
â€¦â€clerks from the chambers of four conservative justices (Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, and Kennedy) sort themselves ideologically in their career trajectory: Since 1990, they increasingly go to conservative law schools or to law firms with prominent conservative mentors such as Kirkland &amp; Ellisâ€â€¦<br />
I remembered that name Kirkland &amp; Ellis and looked it up &#8211; <a href="http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural" rel="nofollow">http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural</a><br />
Yes, that is why I remembered it &#8211; Obama supporters and the lawfirm that had looked into the natural born aspect of the Constitution around the time that the pres-elect started his campaign.<br />
The interesting article â€œAMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLEâ€<br />
â€œThe natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€<br />
I am now wondering about SCOTUS remaining unbiased in their denials â€¦ I donâ€™t know how anyone could NOT find this disturbing. No â€˜proofâ€™ but WOW what a coincidence! Iâ€™d hate to believe that there is â€˜no justiceâ€™ (especially in the high courts). I, along with I am sure millions of others think that the entire issue needs to be resolved once and for all &#8211; someone has to speak up for the people of this country. Simple dismissials without given reasons are NOT acceptable!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the entry she is referring to:<br />
<a href="http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural" rel="nofollow">http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/gosh-really-hope-obama-natural</a></p>
<p>Gosh, I Really Hope Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. But Why, Why, Why, Did He Have Kirkland &amp; Ellis Try to Re-write the Clause in 2006?</p>
<p>wallstreetcaptain 4 days ago</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement right as he starts his presidential run?<br />
::<br />
Coincidence?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0</a> :<br />
If the Facts Donâ€™t Support the Theory, Destroy the Facts</p>
<p>Comment left by: CreativeOgre:</p>
<p>While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. Itâ€™s title</p>
<p>AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE</p>
<p>caught my eye, and had to read itâ€¦</p>
<p><a href="http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf</a></p>
<p>I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?</p>
<p>So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland &amp; Ellis LLP <a href="http://www.kirkland.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirkland.com</a></p>
<p>Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter.</p>
<p>Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that<br />
Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm</a> â€¦ temID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)</p>
<p>In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the â€ Illinois Venture Capital Associationâ€™s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital communityâ€ presented by Sen. Barack Obama</p>
<p>So it sure looks like Obamaâ€™s people have looked into the matter of â€œNatural bornâ€ as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of:</p>
<p>â€œIf the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!â€</p>
<p>Here is the introduction to the paperâ€¦ It looks like a road map for Obamaâ€™s defense lawyersâ€¦And a precursor to a Socialist world.</p>
<p>AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE</p>
<p>SARAH P. HERLIHY*</p>
<p>INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the â€œstupidest provisionâ€ in the Constitution, â€œundecidedly un American,â€ â€œblatantly discriminatory,â€ and the â€œConstitutionâ€™s worst provision.â€</p>
<p>Since Arnold Schwarzeneggerâ€™s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency.</p>
<p>Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:</p>
<p>No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.</p>
<p>Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.</p>
<p>In addition to Governor Schwarzenegger, the natural born citizen clause prohibits many other prominent Americans from becoming president, including Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, and over 700 Medal of Honor Winners.</p>
<p>Even though many of these individuals have served in high political positions or fought in a war on behalf of America, they are not able to become president simply because they were not born in the United States.</p>
<p>The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is out-dated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty.</p>
<p>OBAMA KNOWS HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here is the KILLER PARAGRAPH from the above argument:

Therefore, we can say with confidence that a natural-born citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to fatherâ€™s who are themselves citizens of the United States. A person who had been born under a double allegiance cannot be said to be a natural-born citizen of the United States because such status is not recognized (only in fiction of law). A child born to an American mother and alien father could be said to be a citizen of the United States by some affirmative act of law but never entitled to be a natural-born citizen because through laws of nature the child inherits the condition of their father.

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

If one thinks that is &quot;sexist&quot; or out of date, then change the Constitution.
That hasn&#039;t been done. Will the Supreme Court do it&#039;s job?
I have no idea. But I now understand what the framers meant by
&quot;natural born&quot; and they specifically excluded an act of law changing
their understanding/interpretation of the laws of nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is the KILLER PARAGRAPH from the above argument:</p>
<p>Therefore, we can say with confidence that a natural-born citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to fatherâ€™s who are themselves citizens of the United States. A person who had been born under a double allegiance cannot be said to be a natural-born citizen of the United States because such status is not recognized (only in fiction of law). A child born to an American mother and alien father could be said to be a citizen of the United States by some affirmative act of law but never entitled to be a natural-born citizen because through laws of nature the child inherits the condition of their father.</p>
<p><a href="http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html" rel="nofollow">http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html</a></p>
<p>If one thinks that is &#8220;sexist&#8221; or out of date, then change the Constitution.<br />
That hasn&#8217;t been done. Will the Supreme Court do it&#8217;s job?<br />
I have no idea. But I now understand what the framers meant by<br />
&#8220;natural born&#8221; and they specifically excluded an act of law changing<br />
their understanding/interpretation of the laws of nature.</p>
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		<title>By: dave m</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a gooogle search on natural born citizen and informed
of a US law expanding the meaning of the phrase.
However, that law has never been tested in the Supreme Court.
It is probably unconstitutional. Isn&#039;t this the whole point
of the Donofrio challenge? Try to get the Supreme Court to
do it&#039;s job?

Anyways, Google filters it&#039;s results in a consensus engine
whatever that is. If you do a Copernic search
(Copernic is a search engine almagamator and I recommend it)

you find this:

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

This is only a snippet, Strata let me paste in that other whole
thing, so I won&#039;t abuse the privilege but the argument is
extensive:

Natural-Born Citizen Defined

One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.

Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her fatherâ€™s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of â€œnatural law and national law.â€ The first Naturalization Act passed by Congress recognized â€œnatural-born citizensâ€ to be those born beyond the States to resident fathers who were already established citizens of the United States.

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a childâ€™s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: â€œAll persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.â€

Rep. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means â€œevery human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.â€ This national law does not endow upon any person allegiance through birth alone as was the custom under the old English common law practice but only recognizes citizenship of those born to parents who owe no allegiance to another nation. In other words, national law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nationâ€™s citizens.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

So there are two tests,

Test1) Why are you spending a fortune to hide your birth
certificate?

Test2) The Constitutional meaning of natural born citizen
needs to be re-tested again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a gooogle search on natural born citizen and informed<br />
of a US law expanding the meaning of the phrase.<br />
However, that law has never been tested in the Supreme Court.<br />
It is probably unconstitutional. Isn&#8217;t this the whole point<br />
of the Donofrio challenge? Try to get the Supreme Court to<br />
do it&#8217;s job?</p>
<p>Anyways, Google filters it&#8217;s results in a consensus engine<br />
whatever that is. If you do a Copernic search<br />
(Copernic is a search engine almagamator and I recommend it)</p>
<p>you find this:</p>
<p><a href="http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html" rel="nofollow">http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html</a></p>
<p>This is only a snippet, Strata let me paste in that other whole<br />
thing, so I won&#8217;t abuse the privilege but the argument is<br />
extensive:</p>
<p>Natural-Born Citizen Defined</p>
<p>One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature &#8211; laws the founders recognized and embraced.</p>
<p>Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her fatherâ€™s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of â€œnatural law and national law.â€ The first Naturalization Act passed by Congress recognized â€œnatural-born citizensâ€ to be those born beyond the States to resident fathers who were already established citizens of the United States.</p>
<p>The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a childâ€™s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: â€œAll persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.â€</p>
<p>Rep. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means â€œevery human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.â€ This national law does not endow upon any person allegiance through birth alone as was the custom under the old English common law practice but only recognizes citizenship of those born to parents who owe no allegiance to another nation. In other words, national law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nationâ€™s citizens.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>So there are two tests,</p>
<p>Test1) Why are you spending a fortune to hide your birth<br />
certificate?</p>
<p>Test2) The Constitutional meaning of natural born citizen<br />
needs to be re-tested again.</p>
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		<dc:creator>dave m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWS

Actually, I am taking it off  
http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart.htm

I will paste the whole thing in and let Strata delete it.


The Obama File

Natural Born Citizen Chart
People are confused because they don&#039;t understand the meaning of the relevant legal terms.  This chart that shows the elements for each of the constitutional terms that are used in the Constitution or in Caselaw by the Supreme Court.
 
For each presidential candidate, they can put the factual history of their birth in the equation and see if they fit the bill to be president of the U.S. in 2008 under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 and the relevant federal law under U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).  As you can clearly see, Obama is a U. S. citizen, but he&#039;s not a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; and, as such, is not eligible for POTUS, because his father, a Kenyan, was a foreigner.  His birth certificate is only relevant to answer the question, &quot;what does Obama have to hide?&quot;
 

(The actual chart doesn&#039;t reproduce well on blogs, but feel free to go
there/)

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:

&quot; ... I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents [plural, meaning two] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen...&quot; (http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx)
U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark&#039;s importance is that it is the first case decided by the Supreme Court that attempts to explain the meaning of &quot;natural born citizen&quot; under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.  Natural born citizen is similiar to the meaning of what a natural born subject is under Common Law in England.  That is one of the reasons why the framers specifically included a grandfather clause (natural born Citizen OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution).  The founding fathers knew that in order to be president, they had to grandfather themselves in because they were British subjects.  If they didn&#039;t, they could not be President of the U.S.  The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a native born citizen.  If you look at the fact of Wong Kim Ark being born in San Francisco, CA, that holding is correct.
 
Perkins v. Elg&#039;s importance is that it actually gives examples of what a Citizen of the U.S. is; what a native born American Citizen is; and what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is.  A natural born citizen is a person who is born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the mainland of U.S.
  
Besides being a lawyer, I am an accountant as well.  We know that two plus two equals four (2+2 = 4).  There is no dispute in that.   Also, the similar logic applies with the meaning of what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is.  To be one as defined under U.S. Supreme Court case law and the English Common Law adopted by the U.S., you have to be born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the U.S. mainland.
 
Congress for 26 times has tried to change the meaning of natural born citizen as early as the 1790 Nationality Act and 26 times the bill has been defeated, repealed or ruled unconstitutional.  The meaning of what natural born citizen is what it is.  Regardless of what people in the mainstream media and in our federal government try to do, they still can&#039;t change the fact of the meaning of what a natural born citizen is.  What is occurring right now is straight up a coup de&#039;tat seeking to destroy the Constitution as we know it.
 
Either way, three of the candidates, Obama (aka Soetoro), McCain, and Calero are not eligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.  Just like a residential purchase of a home is void if fraud in the inducement (where one party conceals a material fact that if people knew about it ahead of time, they would not enter into a residential purchase of a home), the same thing has occurred with the primaries and presidential election on November 4, 2008.  Because these three candidates (Obama (aka Soetoro), McCain, and Calero) were ineligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, then the 2008 presidential election and its results are void.  Regardless of what game of charades people in the mainstream media and people within our federal government are trying to pull.  That is a fact that is not in dispute.
 
From an attorney who practices in Missouri

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

So you say the father doesn&#039;t matter whereas the supreme court
in 1868 and 1939 ruled that both parents must be US citizens
without foreign attachments.

I am sure you will soon blind me with pixelated science, but I note
that only the requests for immediate stays have been rejected
by the Supreme Court. Both cases are still alive.

PARENTS is plural, plural means more than one. Typically 2.
What Supreme Court decisions expanded this definition since 1939?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WWS</p>
<p>Actually, I am taking it off<br />
<a href="http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart.htm</a></p>
<p>I will paste the whole thing in and let Strata delete it.</p>
<p>The Obama File</p>
<p>Natural Born Citizen Chart<br />
People are confused because they don&#8217;t understand the meaning of the relevant legal terms.  This chart that shows the elements for each of the constitutional terms that are used in the Constitution or in Caselaw by the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>For each presidential candidate, they can put the factual history of their birth in the equation and see if they fit the bill to be president of the U.S. in 2008 under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 and the relevant federal law under U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).  As you can clearly see, Obama is a U. S. citizen, but he&#8217;s not a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; and, as such, is not eligible for POTUS, because his father, a Kenyan, was a foreigner.  His birth certificate is only relevant to answer the question, &#8220;what does Obama have to hide?&#8221;</p>
<p>(The actual chart doesn&#8217;t reproduce well on blogs, but feel free to go<br />
there/)</p>
<p>Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8230; I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents [plural, meaning two] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen&#8230;&#8221; (<a href="http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx</a>)<br />
U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark&#8217;s importance is that it is the first case decided by the Supreme Court that attempts to explain the meaning of &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.  Natural born citizen is similiar to the meaning of what a natural born subject is under Common Law in England.  That is one of the reasons why the framers specifically included a grandfather clause (natural born Citizen OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution).  The founding fathers knew that in order to be president, they had to grandfather themselves in because they were British subjects.  If they didn&#8217;t, they could not be President of the U.S.  The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a native born citizen.  If you look at the fact of Wong Kim Ark being born in San Francisco, CA, that holding is correct.</p>
<p>Perkins v. Elg&#8217;s importance is that it actually gives examples of what a Citizen of the U.S. is; what a native born American Citizen is; and what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is.  A natural born citizen is a person who is born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the mainland of U.S.</p>
<p>Besides being a lawyer, I am an accountant as well.  We know that two plus two equals four (2+2 = 4).  There is no dispute in that.   Also, the similar logic applies with the meaning of what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is.  To be one as defined under U.S. Supreme Court case law and the English Common Law adopted by the U.S., you have to be born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the U.S. mainland.</p>
<p>Congress for 26 times has tried to change the meaning of natural born citizen as early as the 1790 Nationality Act and 26 times the bill has been defeated, repealed or ruled unconstitutional.  The meaning of what natural born citizen is what it is.  Regardless of what people in the mainstream media and in our federal government try to do, they still can&#8217;t change the fact of the meaning of what a natural born citizen is.  What is occurring right now is straight up a coup de&#8217;tat seeking to destroy the Constitution as we know it.</p>
<p>Either way, three of the candidates, Obama (aka Soetoro), McCain, and Calero are not eligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.  Just like a residential purchase of a home is void if fraud in the inducement (where one party conceals a material fact that if people knew about it ahead of time, they would not enter into a residential purchase of a home), the same thing has occurred with the primaries and presidential election on November 4, 2008.  Because these three candidates (Obama (aka Soetoro), McCain, and Calero) were ineligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, then the 2008 presidential election and its results are void.  Regardless of what game of charades people in the mainstream media and people within our federal government are trying to pull.  That is a fact that is not in dispute.</p>
<p>From an attorney who practices in Missouri</p>
<p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1</p>
<p>So you say the father doesn&#8217;t matter whereas the supreme court<br />
in 1868 and 1939 ruled that both parents must be US citizens<br />
without foreign attachments.</p>
<p>I am sure you will soon blind me with pixelated science, but I note<br />
that only the requests for immediate stays have been rejected<br />
by the Supreme Court. Both cases are still alive.</p>
<p>PARENTS is plural, plural means more than one. Typically 2.<br />
What Supreme Court decisions expanded this definition since 1939?</p>
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		<description>Could the Blago scandal ensnare team Obama?  You betcha.
If you donâ€™t think it can, you donâ€™t know prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

By Byron York
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the Blago scandal ensnare team Obama?  You betcha.<br />
If you donâ€™t think it can, you donâ€™t know prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.</p>
<p>By Byron York<br />
<a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTg2NzI4MWVhY2I1OWQ3NTE5YmNhNGRiM2E3OGQxMTY" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTg2NzI4MWVhY2I1OWQ3NTE5YmNhNGRiM2E3OGQxMTY</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahm&#039;s calls on tape 

The Blago scandal . . . 

December 16, 2008

BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist 

Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama&#039;s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds -- dealing with his boss&#039; vacant Senate seat! 

A lot of chit-chat? 

Hot air? 

Or trouble? 

â€¢  â€¢  To date: Rahm&#039;s been mum. Stay tuned.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1333057,CST-NWS-SNEED16.article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahm&#8217;s calls on tape </p>
<p>The Blago scandal . . . </p>
<p>December 16, 2008</p>
<p>BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist </p>
<p>Sneed hears rumbles President-elect Barack Obama&#8217;s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is reportedly on 21 different taped conversations by the feds &#8212; dealing with his boss&#8217; vacant Senate seat! </p>
<p>A lot of chit-chat? </p>
<p>Hot air? </p>
<p>Or trouble? </p>
<p>â€¢  â€¢  To date: Rahm&#8217;s been mum. Stay tuned.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1333057,CST-NWS-SNEED16.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1333057,CST-NWS-SNEED16.article</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Date Set For Broe v. Reed

December 10, 2008
Contact: Stephen Pidgeon, Attorney at Law, P.S.
Tel: (425) 605-4774 Fax: (425) 818-5371
Email: attorney@stephenpidgeon.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

12 Washington voters sue to set aside the election of Barack Obama in Washington.

Bellevue, WA, December 10, 2008 â€” The Washington Supreme Court has set a date for the case Broe v. Reed, to be heard en banc on January 8, 2009.

On December 4, 2008, James (Jim) Broe and 11 other Washington voters sued Secretary of State Sam Reed in the Washington Supreme Court, seeking a Writ of Mandamus to require the Secretary to set aside the votes cast for Senator Barack Obama, because at the time of the election, Senator Obama had failed to establish that he was a â€œnatural born citizenâ€ of the United States, failed to establish that he was an American citizen, and that he was not running under his legal name of Barry Soetoro.

â€œThe issue of standing seems to be behind us,â€ said Stephen Pidgeon, counsel for the plaintiffs. â€œWhat remains is to establish the duty of the Secretary of State, under Article III, Sections 4 and 17 of the Washington constitution, under RCW 29A.04.230 which names the Secretary as the stateâ€™s chief of elections, and under relevant administrative codes which also require the Secretary to act.â€

Pidgeon goes on to say that â€œeach candidate that stands in a primary election must make a declaration of candidacy, stating that â€˜at the time of filing this declaration, I am legally qualified to assume office if elected.â€™ The Secretary of State has a constitutionally imposed duty to determine if the candidate is telling the truth.â€

http://decalogosintl.org/?p=75</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Date Set For Broe v. Reed</p>
<p>December 10, 2008<br />
Contact: Stephen Pidgeon, Attorney at Law, P.S.<br />
Tel: (425) 605-4774 Fax: (425) 818-5371<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:attorney@stephenpidgeon.com">attorney@stephenpidgeon.com</a></p>
<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE</p>
<p>12 Washington voters sue to set aside the election of Barack Obama in Washington.</p>
<p>Bellevue, WA, December 10, 2008 â€” The Washington Supreme Court has set a date for the case Broe v. Reed, to be heard en banc on January 8, 2009.</p>
<p>On December 4, 2008, James (Jim) Broe and 11 other Washington voters sued Secretary of State Sam Reed in the Washington Supreme Court, seeking a Writ of Mandamus to require the Secretary to set aside the votes cast for Senator Barack Obama, because at the time of the election, Senator Obama had failed to establish that he was a â€œnatural born citizenâ€ of the United States, failed to establish that he was an American citizen, and that he was not running under his legal name of Barry Soetoro.</p>
<p>â€œThe issue of standing seems to be behind us,â€ said Stephen Pidgeon, counsel for the plaintiffs. â€œWhat remains is to establish the duty of the Secretary of State, under Article III, Sections 4 and 17 of the Washington constitution, under RCW 29A.04.230 which names the Secretary as the stateâ€™s chief of elections, and under relevant administrative codes which also require the Secretary to act.â€</p>
<p>Pidgeon goes on to say that â€œeach candidate that stands in a primary election must make a declaration of candidacy, stating that â€˜at the time of filing this declaration, I am legally qualified to assume office if elected.â€™ The Secretary of State has a constitutionally imposed duty to determine if the candidate is telling the truth.â€</p>
<p><a href="http://decalogosintl.org/?p=75" rel="nofollow">http://decalogosintl.org/?p=75</a></p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I know you&#039;re taking this stuff in part off Donofrio&#039;s blog.  Donofrio&#039;s mistake is that he has his own personal interpretation of what &quot;natual born citizen&quot; means, but that interpretation of his is not backed up by ANY case law or ANY court, ever.  

He&#039;s got an interesting argument - problem for him and you is, that&#039;s all it is. The courts have rejected his minimalist construction in favor of an expansive construction.  Obama&#039;s mother was a US citizen, therefore Obama is a natural born US citizen.  His father&#039;s citizenship is immaterial. 

You should note that Donofrio also believes that John McCain was not a natural born citizen because he was born in Panama, even though his parents were only there because of US military service.

To put it in precise legal terms, Donofrio is a whack-job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I know you&#8217;re taking this stuff in part off Donofrio&#8217;s blog.  Donofrio&#8217;s mistake is that he has his own personal interpretation of what &#8220;natual born citizen&#8221; means, but that interpretation of his is not backed up by ANY case law or ANY court, ever.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s got an interesting argument &#8211; problem for him and you is, that&#8217;s all it is. The courts have rejected his minimalist construction in favor of an expansive construction.  Obama&#8217;s mother was a US citizen, therefore Obama is a natural born US citizen.  His father&#8217;s citizenship is immaterial. </p>
<p>You should note that Donofrio also believes that John McCain was not a natural born citizen because he was born in Panama, even though his parents were only there because of US military service.</p>
<p>To put it in precise legal terms, Donofrio is a whack-job.</p>
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