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	<title>Comments on: Ten Years Of Proof That CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming</title>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7469/comment-page-1#comment-432301</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what sort of idiot would think the sun was responsible for the Earth&#039;s climate. Harrumph ... I got an idea, lets run some boundary condition &quot;what ifs&quot; ---

1) what if the sun were to go out?
2) What if the sun were to decide to get really really really hot.

Choose either case -- What would happen to mankind?

3) Why is it that mankind is here, is it because the sun just happens to be just right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what sort of idiot would think the sun was responsible for the Earth&#8217;s climate. Harrumph &#8230; I got an idea, lets run some boundary condition &#8220;what ifs&#8221; &#8212;</p>
<p>1) what if the sun were to go out?<br />
2) What if the sun were to decide to get really really really hot.</p>
<p>Choose either case &#8212; What would happen to mankind?</p>
<p>3) Why is it that mankind is here, is it because the sun just happens to be just right?</p>
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		<title>By: gwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been debating this issue for some time with a friend who, a few years ago wouldn&#039;t budge on his belief that, not only were we warming, but CO2 was the singular cause.  Among the questions that did not phase him:

1-How do you rule out solar activity as a possible cause?

2-Of the approximately one degree increase in temperature during the 20th century, how do you explain the fact that three-fourths of that increase occurred prior to 1940?

3-Ice-core samples show that increases in CO2 FOLLOW temperature rises, throughout history.....

He and others arguing their side simply shrugged these questions off-it is a religion to them.

NOW, he&#039;s beginning to concede some points to me. The recent cooling trend and the &quot;coming-out&quot; of certain key scientists have combined to weaken the resolve of the alarmists, apparently. We have been losing-in the schools as WayneatJeremiahFilms says, and, of course, in Washington. But we must continue to hammer away, because the demise of capitalism is what is at stake here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been debating this issue for some time with a friend who, a few years ago wouldn&#8217;t budge on his belief that, not only were we warming, but CO2 was the singular cause.  Among the questions that did not phase him:</p>
<p>1-How do you rule out solar activity as a possible cause?</p>
<p>2-Of the approximately one degree increase in temperature during the 20th century, how do you explain the fact that three-fourths of that increase occurred prior to 1940?</p>
<p>3-Ice-core samples show that increases in CO2 FOLLOW temperature rises, throughout history&#8230;..</p>
<p>He and others arguing their side simply shrugged these questions off-it is a religion to them.</p>
<p>NOW, he&#8217;s beginning to concede some points to me. The recent cooling trend and the &#8220;coming-out&#8221; of certain key scientists have combined to weaken the resolve of the alarmists, apparently. We have been losing-in the schools as WayneatJeremiahFilms says, and, of course, in Washington. But we must continue to hammer away, because the demise of capitalism is what is at stake here.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne at Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne at Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are still teaching Global Warming in school, Conservatives are losing on this front.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/BlogWatch/education/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BlogWatch Education&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are still teaching Global Warming in school, Conservatives are losing on this front.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/BlogWatch/education/" rel="nofollow">BlogWatch Education</a></p>
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		<title>By: OLDPUPPYMAX</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7469/comment-page-1#comment-430771</link>
		<dc:creator>OLDPUPPYMAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What have proof or scientific evidence to do with it? The left has declared that spending countless dollars on a politically inspired hoax is in the best interest of the planet. Only an informed, engaged electorate will stop the &quot;green&quot; nonsense. And what are the odds of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What have proof or scientific evidence to do with it? The left has declared that spending countless dollars on a politically inspired hoax is in the best interest of the planet. Only an informed, engaged electorate will stop the &#8220;green&#8221; nonsense. And what are the odds of that?</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;


    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation&#039;s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present â€“ and is gravely to be regarded.

    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
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President Dwight Eisenhower&#039;s farewell address.</description>
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<p>    Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.</p>
<p>    The prospect of domination of the nation&#8217;s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present â€“ and is gravely to be regarded.</p>
<p>    Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
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<p>President Dwight Eisenhower&#8217;s farewell address.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO2 levels have been in basically a linear rise for ages.  Since 1925 we saw temperatures peak in 1933, then gradually fall from the 1940&#039;s to about 1976, then rise to 1998, but not as high as they were in 1933, then fall a little and basically go flat until 2006 and since that time have been cooling quite rapidly.  In fact, the cooling over the past two years appears to be the most dramatic sustained cooling we have seen in quite some time, maybe since the thermometer was invented.

CO2 is a major plant nutrient.  The more we put into the atmosphere, the more trees and other plants put on biomass.  As far as the oceans are concerned,  absorption of atmospheric CO2 is negligible compared to the direct CO2 injection into the ocean from vulcanism.  In fact, you can think of the mid-Atlantic ridge as one continuous volcano from Iceland to well South of the equator.

Volcanoes in the deep Pacific directly inject pure liquid CO2 (kept liquid because of the extreme pressure).  A single volcanic eruption can swamp out a century of atmospheric CO2 rise by directly injecting millions of tons of CO2 into the sea.

Humans generate about 3% of all atmospheric CO2.  If every human being perished from the face of the Earth in one day, would it stop the rise in atmospheric CO2?  I am not convinced.

If every human being in the UK disappeared today, China would make up the difference in CO2 emissions in 18 months at their 2006 rate of emissions growth.  We just don&#039;t add that much CO2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO2 levels have been in basically a linear rise for ages.  Since 1925 we saw temperatures peak in 1933, then gradually fall from the 1940&#8242;s to about 1976, then rise to 1998, but not as high as they were in 1933, then fall a little and basically go flat until 2006 and since that time have been cooling quite rapidly.  In fact, the cooling over the past two years appears to be the most dramatic sustained cooling we have seen in quite some time, maybe since the thermometer was invented.</p>
<p>CO2 is a major plant nutrient.  The more we put into the atmosphere, the more trees and other plants put on biomass.  As far as the oceans are concerned,  absorption of atmospheric CO2 is negligible compared to the direct CO2 injection into the ocean from vulcanism.  In fact, you can think of the mid-Atlantic ridge as one continuous volcano from Iceland to well South of the equator.</p>
<p>Volcanoes in the deep Pacific directly inject pure liquid CO2 (kept liquid because of the extreme pressure).  A single volcanic eruption can swamp out a century of atmospheric CO2 rise by directly injecting millions of tons of CO2 into the sea.</p>
<p>Humans generate about 3% of all atmospheric CO2.  If every human being perished from the face of the Earth in one day, would it stop the rise in atmospheric CO2?  I am not convinced.</p>
<p>If every human being in the UK disappeared today, China would make up the difference in CO2 emissions in 18 months at their 2006 rate of emissions growth.  We just don&#8217;t add that much CO2.</p>
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