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		<title>By: momdear1</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/8158/comment-page-2#comment-445142</link>
		<dc:creator>momdear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the American people are like a bunch of chickens. They are in a whole new world every morning  when they get up. They can only remember the last thing they heard and it is &quot;Obama and Dems are good, Republican and Bush are bad,&quot; 24/7 from every aspect of the media, around the clock. So what can we expect. The morons are breeding and the high IQ&#039;s are aborting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the American people are like a bunch of chickens. They are in a whole new world every morning  when they get up. They can only remember the last thing they heard and it is &#8220;Obama and Dems are good, Republican and Bush are bad,&#8221; 24/7 from every aspect of the media, around the clock. So what can we expect. The morons are breeding and the high IQ&#8217;s are aborting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Z</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/8158/comment-page-2#comment-444335</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ: I get a lot of terrific info from your blog, and I very much appreciate the time you put into it.  I&#039;ve always felt you were too hard on the conservatives, of which I am one, but in truth, I have to admit that it serves as useful corrective to the narrow-mindedness that partisans of any political bent are vulnerable to.

So, in that spirit, I&#039;ll do the same for you.  You&#039;re not hearing what Limbaugh said.  Even if there was some ambivalence to his first saying he hoped Obama would fail, although it seemed clear enough to me, everything about the man, from his direct comments on this matter to his persona and philosophy make it clear what he meant.

Indeed, nothing could be more common in political life--or any other realm of human existence for that matter--than to hope for the defeat of policies one believes will be hurtful.  You couldn&#039;t have it more backwards: Limbaugh is hoping Obama will fail so his policies will not bring harm to America, not that Obama&#039;s policies will be enacted, then America will be hurt, and so Obama will be a failure.  Rightly or wrongly, Limbaugh takes it as axiomatic that the polices will be harmful.

If a &quot;conservative purist,&quot; as you put it, were elected to the presidency and wanted to implement an anti-abortion, prayer-in-the-schools, end-gay-rights, what have you agenda, do you honestly expect that liberals would say, &quot;Let&#039;s give the president what he wants and see if it helps the country before we condemn him. It would be treason to hope he will fail.&quot;? 

The &quot;birthers,&quot; as you term them, are a sliver of a sliver of the conservative movement. Your exaggeration of their role is as unfair as your condemnation of Limbaugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ: I get a lot of terrific info from your blog, and I very much appreciate the time you put into it.  I&#8217;ve always felt you were too hard on the conservatives, of which I am one, but in truth, I have to admit that it serves as useful corrective to the narrow-mindedness that partisans of any political bent are vulnerable to.</p>
<p>So, in that spirit, I&#8217;ll do the same for you.  You&#8217;re not hearing what Limbaugh said.  Even if there was some ambivalence to his first saying he hoped Obama would fail, although it seemed clear enough to me, everything about the man, from his direct comments on this matter to his persona and philosophy make it clear what he meant.</p>
<p>Indeed, nothing could be more common in political life&#8211;or any other realm of human existence for that matter&#8211;than to hope for the defeat of policies one believes will be hurtful.  You couldn&#8217;t have it more backwards: Limbaugh is hoping Obama will fail so his policies will not bring harm to America, not that Obama&#8217;s policies will be enacted, then America will be hurt, and so Obama will be a failure.  Rightly or wrongly, Limbaugh takes it as axiomatic that the polices will be harmful.</p>
<p>If a &#8220;conservative purist,&#8221; as you put it, were elected to the presidency and wanted to implement an anti-abortion, prayer-in-the-schools, end-gay-rights, what have you agenda, do you honestly expect that liberals would say, &#8220;Let&#8217;s give the president what he wants and see if it helps the country before we condemn him. It would be treason to hope he will fail.&#8221;? </p>
<p>The &#8220;birthers,&#8221; as you term them, are a sliver of a sliver of the conservative movement. Your exaggeration of their role is as unfair as your condemnation of Limbaugh.</p>
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		<title>By: marksbbr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redteam, the quote by Brooks is exactly how many people were. I fell for Obama&#039;s rhetoric in 2004 watching him speak at the Dem convention. It took me a while to come to my senses. It is sad that so many people can be so gullible and vote based on style rather than substance.  Sadly, the ones I know are still supporting Obama, despite cabinet nominees with tax problems and everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redteam, the quote by Brooks is exactly how many people were. I fell for Obama&#8217;s rhetoric in 2004 watching him speak at the Dem convention. It took me a while to come to my senses. It is sad that so many people can be so gullible and vote based on style rather than substance.  Sadly, the ones I know are still supporting Obama, despite cabinet nominees with tax problems and everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: marksbbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksbbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crosspatch, your math is right on target. With 30% of the voting public neither Dem or GOP, both parties need to target the center. But you can&#039;t expect the far right, self proclaimed &quot;true&quot; conservatives that. Nothing can convince them of that. They&#039;re more intent on propping up Obama by scaring away more rational people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosspatch, your math is right on target. With 30% of the voting public neither Dem or GOP, both parties need to target the center. But you can&#8217;t expect the far right, self proclaimed &#8220;true&#8221; conservatives that. Nothing can convince them of that. They&#8217;re more intent on propping up Obama by scaring away more rational people.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redteam,

Actually, in light of the vitriol that came from the far right, Obama sounded damn reasonable.

It is all relative. And as long as the far right continue to rail against the impure, Obama will be given more time to do more damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redteam,</p>
<p>Actually, in light of the vitriol that came from the far right, Obama sounded damn reasonable.</p>
<p>It is all relative. And as long as the far right continue to rail against the impure, Obama will be given more time to do more damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quote from David Brooks:
&lt;em&gt;Those of us who consider ourselves moderates â€” moderate-conservative, in my case â€” are forced to confront the reality that Barack Obama is not who we thought he was. His words are responsible; his character is inspiring. But his actions betray a transformational liberalism that should put every centrist on notice.&lt;/em&gt;

Strange some people can be fooled so easily.  Maybe it&#039;s wishful thinking on their part.  Obama is exactly who I thought he was, nothing has surprised me.  Nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quote from David Brooks:<br />
<em>Those of us who consider ourselves moderates â€” moderate-conservative, in my case â€” are forced to confront the reality that Barack Obama is not who we thought he was. His words are responsible; his character is inspiring. But his actions betray a transformational liberalism that should put every centrist on notice.</em></p>
<p>Strange some people can be fooled so easily.  Maybe it&#8217;s wishful thinking on their part.  Obama is exactly who I thought he was, nothing has surprised me.  Nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;crosspatch, Itâ€™s true that a lot of conservatives didnâ€™t vote for mccain. I did, but I certainly was not enthused by him.&quot;

Me either.  I thought Rudy would have been a better choice but he didn&#039;t seem to attract any funds.  

It might already be too late. Obama will have damaged our relations with countries like Poland and others possibly beyond repair.  His whipsawing of US positions on things like missile defense in Europe and policies toward Syria, Iran and Israel and going to make other nations believe we can not be trusted.  What we promise can not stand longer than an election cycle here in the US because the next President will just change the rules.

We have no integrity anymore.  Diplomacy rests on a foundation of integrity and consistency.  It will force us into more wars because any diplomacy will be a matter of the other side simply waiting out the current administration to see what the next will bring ... like Iran did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;crosspatch, Itâ€™s true that a lot of conservatives didnâ€™t vote for mccain. I did, but I certainly was not enthused by him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me either.  I thought Rudy would have been a better choice but he didn&#8217;t seem to attract any funds.  </p>
<p>It might already be too late. Obama will have damaged our relations with countries like Poland and others possibly beyond repair.  His whipsawing of US positions on things like missile defense in Europe and policies toward Syria, Iran and Israel and going to make other nations believe we can not be trusted.  What we promise can not stand longer than an election cycle here in the US because the next President will just change the rules.</p>
<p>We have no integrity anymore.  Diplomacy rests on a foundation of integrity and consistency.  It will force us into more wars because any diplomacy will be a matter of the other side simply waiting out the current administration to see what the next will bring &#8230; like Iran did.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker9876</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker9876</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened in Detroit?

The manipulators still need to do more to tank the stock market to change the Obie supporters.  Amazing that they still stand by him at this point.

Steele made a gross tactical mistake as did Cantor.  

They had better learn to anticipate the Democrats&#039; antics and unite in the next election.

What I would hate to think is what happens if the stock market hits 3000 and Obie says, &quot;Sorry, we have to raise taxes to all of you.&quot;  Or that Obie will finally get the idea that true free markets do actually work, implement it, then win the next term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened in Detroit?</p>
<p>The manipulators still need to do more to tank the stock market to change the Obie supporters.  Amazing that they still stand by him at this point.</p>
<p>Steele made a gross tactical mistake as did Cantor.  </p>
<p>They had better learn to anticipate the Democrats&#8217; antics and unite in the next election.</p>
<p>What I would hate to think is what happens if the stock market hits 3000 and Obie says, &#8220;Sorry, we have to raise taxes to all of you.&#8221;  Or that Obie will finally get the idea that true free markets do actually work, implement it, then win the next term.</p>
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		<title>By: dbostan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbostan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for mac only because I knew what Obama will do, as I am a political refugee from Eastern Europe and i recognize his commie language and tactics.
We are in big trouble. This Obama presidency will not end well for the American people and freedom in general.
Just look at what happened in Detroit yesterday. The brown shirts are starting to be deployed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for mac only because I knew what Obama will do, as I am a political refugee from Eastern Europe and i recognize his commie language and tactics.<br />
We are in big trouble. This Obama presidency will not end well for the American people and freedom in general.<br />
Just look at what happened in Detroit yesterday. The brown shirts are starting to be deployed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crosspatch, It&#039;s true that a lot of conservatives didn&#039;t vote for mccain.  I did, but I certainly was not enthused by him.  He&#039;s a liberal in every sense with a slight (very) exception for US security and some foreign policy.  He&#039;s definitely on the left side of the center, so he got some moderates, few real conservatives and most Republicans.  Someone slightly to the right of certer could have gotten the same mods, all Repubs and most conservatives and would have won the election.  So it doesn&#039;t have to be any far right winger, just someone to the right of center.  Who would have won if they had been the Repub candidate?  Palin, Romney, Thompson; all likely.  Once the manipulators tanked the stock market, it was all over.

We need to stop the infighting and unite in the next election.  If there is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crosspatch, It&#8217;s true that a lot of conservatives didn&#8217;t vote for mccain.  I did, but I certainly was not enthused by him.  He&#8217;s a liberal in every sense with a slight (very) exception for US security and some foreign policy.  He&#8217;s definitely on the left side of the center, so he got some moderates, few real conservatives and most Republicans.  Someone slightly to the right of certer could have gotten the same mods, all Repubs and most conservatives and would have won the election.  So it doesn&#8217;t have to be any far right winger, just someone to the right of center.  Who would have won if they had been the Repub candidate?  Palin, Romney, Thompson; all likely.  Once the manipulators tanked the stock market, it was all over.</p>
<p>We need to stop the infighting and unite in the next election.  If there is one.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely off topic ... a friend of a friend of mine needs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercymedical.org/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this service today&lt;/a&gt;.  If ever there was a worthy charity, this is one.  Consider them the next time you are considering a charitable donation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely off topic &#8230; a friend of a friend of mine needs <a href="http://www.mercymedical.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">this service today</a>.  If ever there was a worthy charity, this is one.  Consider them the next time you are considering a charitable donation.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbostan, I disagree.  A lot of &quot;conservatives&quot; refused to vote for McCain this past election.  I hope they can look their grandchildren in the eye when the Obama bill comes due for them.

Look, no Democrat ever got elected by playing to the far left and no Republican will ever get elected playing to the far right. The reason is simple math.

The Democrats have 40-some percent of the population, the Republicans have 30-some percent, and the remaining 30 percent are &quot;other&quot;.  

Neither party will ever get elected by their &quot;base&quot;.  Democrats and Republicans alike play to the center during general elections in order to capture that center that they both need in order to win.  The party that gets the most of the moderate vote wins, period.  It isn&#039;t opinion ... it is simple arithmetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbostan, I disagree.  A lot of &#8220;conservatives&#8221; refused to vote for McCain this past election.  I hope they can look their grandchildren in the eye when the Obama bill comes due for them.</p>
<p>Look, no Democrat ever got elected by playing to the far left and no Republican will ever get elected playing to the far right. The reason is simple math.</p>
<p>The Democrats have 40-some percent of the population, the Republicans have 30-some percent, and the remaining 30 percent are &#8220;other&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Neither party will ever get elected by their &#8220;base&#8221;.  Democrats and Republicans alike play to the center during general elections in order to capture that center that they both need in order to win.  The party that gets the most of the moderate vote wins, period.  It isn&#8217;t opinion &#8230; it is simple arithmetic.</p>
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		<title>By: STUPID Male P***ing Contest Between Limbaugh &#38; Steel &#124; The Pink Flamingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>STUPID Male P***ing Contest Between Limbaugh &#38; Steel &#124; The Pink Flamingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about this tonight.Â  I think the Ace of Spades has the best commentary on the subject, along with AJ Strata (as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dbostan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbostan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush is right.
And, you, the mushy &quot;moderates&quot;, are to blame for the mess the GOP is in.
The &quot;compasionate conservatism&quot; and your illegals amnesty garbage!
Bush and his guys &quot;blessed&quot; this country with the marxist Obama.
&#039;Nough said. 
Now the real conservatives need to clean up the mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush is right.<br />
And, you, the mushy &#8220;moderates&#8221;, are to blame for the mess the GOP is in.<br />
The &#8220;compasionate conservatism&#8221; and your illegals amnesty garbage!<br />
Bush and his guys &#8220;blessed&#8221; this country with the marxist Obama.<br />
&#8216;Nough said.<br />
Now the real conservatives need to clean up the mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is well said:

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Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), said Gibbs was trying to create a distraction by responding to Limbaugh.

&quot;What we are seeing is a desperate attempt by Democrats to distract attention away from a multi-trillion dollar spending spree taking place in Washington,&quot; Ferrier said. &quot;Creating a boogeyman to change the subject does nothing to alter the fact that there are 9,000 earmarks in the omnibus spending bill, that the economic stimulus bill contained no Republican input or that their budget would increase taxes on all Americans.&quot; 
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-fires-back-at-rush-limbaugh-2009-03-02.html
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I don&#039;t know what Obama&#039;s obsession with Rush Limbaugh is; but, he certainly has one.     I hope Rejpubs figure out a way to use this to their advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is well said:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), said Gibbs was trying to create a distraction by responding to Limbaugh.</p>
<p>&#8220;What we are seeing is a desperate attempt by Democrats to distract attention away from a multi-trillion dollar spending spree taking place in Washington,&#8221; Ferrier said. &#8220;Creating a boogeyman to change the subject does nothing to alter the fact that there are 9,000 earmarks in the omnibus spending bill, that the economic stimulus bill contained no Republican input or that their budget would increase taxes on all Americans.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-fires-back-at-rush-limbaugh-2009-03-02.html" rel="nofollow">http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-fires-back-at-rush-limbaugh-2009-03-02.html</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what Obama&#8217;s obsession with Rush Limbaugh is; but, he certainly has one.     I hope Rejpubs figure out a way to use this to their advantage.</p>
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