I could have guessed what you think, however I must point out that there is a strong case against Plame and the CIA for leaking classified information, and Wilson for perjury and obstruction of justice. I have lots of posts on the subject under the category Plame Game – feel free to delve into it.

Your caricature of Rove is highly subjective – like Carville and Begala were saints?? Too funny. The leak, important or not, does not meet the statute of the law. Everyone agrees there will be no indictments on that. And if Valerie was so concerned, she should have stopped Joe from going public with his lies. The minute he did that every intelligence agency in the world had Valerie in their sites. If Novak could do it then most spy agencies could do it. So your concern is obvioulsy tilted one way.

Finally, between Kristof and the Senate investigation it is clear Kristof used both Joe and Valerie has his sources in his May 6th article. Joe’s claims needed to be backed up – including his lies about discovering the Niger documents were forgeris. There were only four people at the debreifing and only Valerie would back up the story about the forgeries. And to be a credible second source as wife – she would have to spill the beans to the NYTimes vetting process she was CIA and there at the debreifing (which she was).

While understand your vague and unsubstantiated claims – it would carry more weight with me if there was something tangible there.

We shall see. I am more than willing to admit all my investigating and speculation is wrong. Personally, if Libby and Rove are convicted then they most likely deserved it. While the possibility this is the case exists – the probability is actually incredibly low.

Thanks for commenting. You are always welcomed here to keep me honest and challenge my assessments.

As for innocent until proven guitly, that is true. However, Karl Rove has a documented histroy of dirty, borderline illegal political tricks, including bugging his own office and telling the FBI it was done by his opponent. It certianly fits a pattern.

I would argue that the charge is far from irrelevant. If we had found WMDs in Iraq (we found some helium trucks, old dud shells from the 80′s, and botulinum in some guy’s freezer), if the Niger allegations had been true, and if the leak did not also include Brewster Jennings & Associates, a CIA front group which has now been exposed, jeapordizing our nation’s ability to track WMDs (Valerie Plame’s specialty) and putting peoples’ lives at risk, then it would be irrelevant.

I want justice, not partisanship. I want transparent government, and I want corrupt officials to be punished. At the very least, the responsible parties should be fired for such a sleazy trick, sliming a political opponent’s wife.

I think what you are asking is will he be guilty. So what I want from you will be a promise to uphold the innocence of anyone indicted until they are proven guilty by a court of law.

Think you can handle that? Also, if the indictments come out against Plame, Wilson or other CIA people, I would expect you to also accept the fact Bush and Co. did nothing wrong.

What I believe is you need to not worry about liberals and cons and let the process work as it is supposed to.

Remember, it’s not the sex, it’s the lying.

And, why should they be required to remember every conversation and its content?