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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Nattering Negativity Vs. A New Beginning</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Nattering Negativity Vs. A New Beginning</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] began with Harriet Meirs nomination and the civil war that broke out in the conservative coalition. Here is what I wrote would happen to the conservative movement in 2005: The anti-Miers crowd won a pyrrhic victory [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] began with Harriet Meirs nomination and the civil war that broke out in the conservative coalition. Here is what I wrote would happen to the conservative movement in 2005: The anti-Miers crowd won a pyrrhic victory [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Alito I Told You So&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Alito I Told You So&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is the Kennedy-Souter mistake where you let people like Bill Kristol dupe the party into believing they, and only they, know what a &#8216;true conservative&#8217; is. I was not happy with the way elitists and talking heads pilloried Miers and her supporters without having a chance to hear her statements. I was on the fence - but I have no idea what Miers represented [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is the Kennedy-Souter mistake where you let people like Bill Kristol dupe the party into believing they, and only they, know what a &#8216;true conservative&#8217; is. I was not happy with the way elitists and talking heads pilloried Miers and her supporters without having a chance to hear her statements. I was on the fence &#8211; but I have no idea what Miers represented [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PierreLegrand</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/849/comment-page-2#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>PierreLegrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope not George Will but definitely along the lines of Reagan, Goldwater and Bush. All people who have, contrary to the prevailing wisdom, sought the expertise of intellectuals. Yes President Bush has made some terrific appointments to posts throughout the Government but he has also made some awful ones. And he made the awful ones for bad reasons. Can anyone say Norman Mineta? How about Michael Brown? Snowcroft? The list is long. 

To say that you are being left out of the Republican party because those bits of the party who have worked since Goldwater to make it strong won the argument about Miers is an exaggeration. Many of you changed to the Republicans after 9/11 because you believed that we represented  a stronger vision of what to do in regards to Terrorists. That vision did not come out of a vacuum. It came about because many of those people you now vilify as being the epitome of evil fought back the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party. You lost an argument with your brother. You didn&#039;t lose a war with the terrorists.

Bush is not an anti-intellectual, and you do him a disservice when you lump him into that category. He has put some of the most brilliant Conservative intellectuals into positions of great power. I submit that he is a stealth intellectual who loves for his opponents to misunderestimate him.

I do agree with you about the NRO, they are past useful. Have been for quite sometime. It was most recently seen by the shameful performance of Podhoretz in regards to Able Danger. But on the otherhand Andrew McCarthy is a gem in the war on terror. As is Jed Babbin, Frank Gaffney and some very few others. Jonah Goldberg can be a lethally sharp wit when its required to cut down some leftist to size. But by and large they are very much full of themselves.

Pierre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope not George Will but definitely along the lines of Reagan, Goldwater and Bush. All people who have, contrary to the prevailing wisdom, sought the expertise of intellectuals. Yes President Bush has made some terrific appointments to posts throughout the Government but he has also made some awful ones. And he made the awful ones for bad reasons. Can anyone say Norman Mineta? How about Michael Brown? Snowcroft? The list is long. </p>
<p>To say that you are being left out of the Republican party because those bits of the party who have worked since Goldwater to make it strong won the argument about Miers is an exaggeration. Many of you changed to the Republicans after 9/11 because you believed that we represented  a stronger vision of what to do in regards to Terrorists. That vision did not come out of a vacuum. It came about because many of those people you now vilify as being the epitome of evil fought back the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party. You lost an argument with your brother. You didn&#8217;t lose a war with the terrorists.</p>
<p>Bush is not an anti-intellectual, and you do him a disservice when you lump him into that category. He has put some of the most brilliant Conservative intellectuals into positions of great power. I submit that he is a stealth intellectual who loves for his opponents to misunderestimate him.</p>
<p>I do agree with you about the NRO, they are past useful. Have been for quite sometime. It was most recently seen by the shameful performance of Podhoretz in regards to Able Danger. But on the otherhand Andrew McCarthy is a gem in the war on terror. As is Jed Babbin, Frank Gaffney and some very few others. Jonah Goldberg can be a lethally sharp wit when its required to cut down some leftist to size. But by and large they are very much full of themselves.</p>
<p>Pierre</p>
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		<title>By: AcademicElephant</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/849/comment-page-2#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>AcademicElephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ:  I&#039;m coming late to this party, but this is a great post.  The comment that is sticking with me is Frum&#039;s response on the NRO&#039;s Bench Memos yesterday--he says &quot;The system worked&quot; and then thanks the people that supported him.  It&#039;s a victory speech--and for what victory?  What system?  Is there some secret system in place about which I know nothing, because constitutional process was not followed here?  Who voted for Frum?

The Noonan piece was pretty bad.  Here&#039;s a thought:  she took several months off last year to work for the Bush campaign and made a big deal about how she was spending her savings to further this cause.  How successful was this venture?  For  the first innaugural she was overlooked as speech writer for Kristol and Krauthammer, and as far as I can tell has not gotten any additional attention from the White House.  She&#039;s been persistently gloomy ever since.

And she should watch it.  The last person who went on about the malaise in American didn&#039;t do so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ:  I&#8217;m coming late to this party, but this is a great post.  The comment that is sticking with me is Frum&#8217;s response on the NRO&#8217;s Bench Memos yesterday&#8211;he says &#8220;The system worked&#8221; and then thanks the people that supported him.  It&#8217;s a victory speech&#8211;and for what victory?  What system?  Is there some secret system in place about which I know nothing, because constitutional process was not followed here?  Who voted for Frum?</p>
<p>The Noonan piece was pretty bad.  Here&#8217;s a thought:  she took several months off last year to work for the Bush campaign and made a big deal about how she was spending her savings to further this cause.  How successful was this venture?  For  the first innaugural she was overlooked as speech writer for Kristol and Krauthammer, and as far as I can tell has not gotten any additional attention from the White House.  She&#8217;s been persistently gloomy ever since.</p>
<p>And she should watch it.  The last person who went on about the malaise in American didn&#8217;t do so well.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black Redneck,

Great comment.  NRO has one problem - we won&#039;t sit down and shut up.  We also will not forget.  I too have turned off the AM talk shows.  They are all way too giddy about what they did.  BTW, we turned off Rush when he went on a rant about children.  The guy is a cold fish about children.  One has to wonder why we listen to him - a person who dislikes the thought of parenting - and ignore President Bush (who has twins like us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black Redneck,</p>
<p>Great comment.  NRO has one problem &#8211; we won&#8217;t sit down and shut up.  We also will not forget.  I too have turned off the AM talk shows.  They are all way too giddy about what they did.  BTW, we turned off Rush when he went on a rant about children.  The guy is a cold fish about children.  One has to wonder why we listen to him &#8211; a person who dislikes the thought of parenting &#8211; and ignore President Bush (who has twins like us).</p>
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		<title>By: Lead and Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lead and Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;My favorite reactions to Miers&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Black Redneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Redneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ,
I&#039;m a 9/11 Republican and just recently changed my voter registration from Independent to Republican.  As a Black person in L.A., I&#039;ve taken heat for it but 9/11 showed me that everything I hated about politics turned out to be liberal / Democratic policies.  

You&#039;ve expressed what I&#039;ve been feeling ever since Miers was nominated.  I was surprised at the venom and ridicule directed at her from the start.  Miers was savaged for not passing a conservative litmus test.  I thought Republicans were against litmus tests? 

From day 1, Laura Ingraham ranted against Miers and how the true conservatives had been working for 30 years blah, blah, Buckley, blah, blah, blah, Reagan.  Well, that&#039;s not me.  I turned off her show and I don&#039;t see any reason to turn it back on.   It was a moment of great clarity.  Ingraham, NRO, Will, etc. had their Jacques Chirac moment and told the rest of us to sit down and shut up.   I  became a Bush Republican.   Like Miers, I&#039;m not one of them (thank God!).

Pres. Bush has nominated some amazing conservatives to the bench and Miers should have been given a chance to be heard.  NRO, et al, trashed Bush and Miers for 3 weeks and now claim that it&#039;s over and we should all just move along.  There is the obligatory &quot;Miers is nice woman, I&#039;m sure she&#039;s a good lawyer  but she should have known she was unfit for the court&quot; talking points.  How patronizing!  

Even more amazing, after trashing Bush for not being sophisticated enough to make good SCOTUS choices, they then put forth their list of appropriate nominees.   After humiliating Bush and his friend, I don&#039;t see the President being pushed into selecting one of their nominees.  I don&#039;t see it happening.  It&#039;s possible that the NRO crowd has ensured that Luttig, McConnell, etc. will never be nominated.       

I now understand that when the pundits argue that conservatives should be on the court they actually mean ivy-league conservatives who are one of them.  I&#039;m one of Bush&#039;s people and I&#039;m looking forward to his next nomination.  It&#039;s certain to be a doozie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,<br />
I&#8217;m a 9/11 Republican and just recently changed my voter registration from Independent to Republican.  As a Black person in L.A., I&#8217;ve taken heat for it but 9/11 showed me that everything I hated about politics turned out to be liberal / Democratic policies.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve expressed what I&#8217;ve been feeling ever since Miers was nominated.  I was surprised at the venom and ridicule directed at her from the start.  Miers was savaged for not passing a conservative litmus test.  I thought Republicans were against litmus tests? </p>
<p>From day 1, Laura Ingraham ranted against Miers and how the true conservatives had been working for 30 years blah, blah, Buckley, blah, blah, blah, Reagan.  Well, that&#8217;s not me.  I turned off her show and I don&#8217;t see any reason to turn it back on.   It was a moment of great clarity.  Ingraham, NRO, Will, etc. had their Jacques Chirac moment and told the rest of us to sit down and shut up.   I  became a Bush Republican.   Like Miers, I&#8217;m not one of them (thank God!).</p>
<p>Pres. Bush has nominated some amazing conservatives to the bench and Miers should have been given a chance to be heard.  NRO, et al, trashed Bush and Miers for 3 weeks and now claim that it&#8217;s over and we should all just move along.  There is the obligatory &#8220;Miers is nice woman, I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s a good lawyer  but she should have known she was unfit for the court&#8221; talking points.  How patronizing!  </p>
<p>Even more amazing, after trashing Bush for not being sophisticated enough to make good SCOTUS choices, they then put forth their list of appropriate nominees.   After humiliating Bush and his friend, I don&#8217;t see the President being pushed into selecting one of their nominees.  I don&#8217;t see it happening.  It&#8217;s possible that the NRO crowd has ensured that Luttig, McConnell, etc. will never be nominated.       </p>
<p>I now understand that when the pundits argue that conservatives should be on the court they actually mean ivy-league conservatives who are one of them.  I&#8217;m one of Bush&#8217;s people and I&#8217;m looking forward to his next nomination.  It&#8217;s certain to be a doozie!</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/849/comment-page-2#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pierre,

There is no way I am including you in this.  You are no George Will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierre,</p>
<p>There is no way I am including you in this.  You are no George Will!</p>
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		<title>By: The Fat Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End of Harriett</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/849/comment-page-2#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fat Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End of Harriett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AJ Strata says about all I have to say about Harriett Miers, and it&#8217;s not so much about her as about her detractors: The message from the Miers fiasco is clear. Only purebloods can be offered for positions of responsibility. If you are not a pureblood, then there is no depth the purebloods will go to knock you down as a mudblood. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AJ Strata says about all I have to say about Harriett Miers, and it&#8217;s not so much about her as about her detractors: The message from the Miers fiasco is clear. Only purebloods can be offered for positions of responsibility. If you are not a pureblood, then there is no depth the purebloods will go to knock you down as a mudblood. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Noonan piece?  Narcissistic baby-boomer marginal hysteria with more than a tad of that insider/elitist/aren&#039;t I ever so thoughtful-nuance.  Get a grip, Lollypop Girl, I suspect the rest of us &quot;ordinary&quot; non-beltway, non-elite Americans will rise to the challenge, whatever that challenge might be, because we always have and we always shall.

Dang, when you grow up in ranch country, there&#039;s only so much of that pap you can endure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Noonan piece?  Narcissistic baby-boomer marginal hysteria with more than a tad of that insider/elitist/aren&#8217;t I ever so thoughtful-nuance.  Get a grip, Lollypop Girl, I suspect the rest of us &#8220;ordinary&#8221; non-beltway, non-elite Americans will rise to the challenge, whatever that challenge might be, because we always have and we always shall.</p>
<p>Dang, when you grow up in ranch country, there&#8217;s only so much of that pap you can endure.</p>
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		<title>By: JudiciousAsininity</title>
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		<dc:creator>JudiciousAsininity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, I supported Miers nomination. I thought she would bring practical lawyering experience to the court and a perspective on tort reform that seems to be lacking in the current court.  I thought Will and Krauthammer were way out of line in their attacks.  The NRO crowd were just as bad. She should have had a hearing so people could make their own judgements on her. Not that it&#039;s their choice. It used to be that the hearings were a formality unless the candidate had real problems, like Abe Fortas. Not any more. The choice has to placate the base of the party, get past the gang of 14, avoid a filibuster, and be prepared to have their life shredded in public. 

Oh well, I&#039;m just hoping Bush nominates Ken Starr. He&#039;s extremely well qualified and would make a great justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, I supported Miers nomination. I thought she would bring practical lawyering experience to the court and a perspective on tort reform that seems to be lacking in the current court.  I thought Will and Krauthammer were way out of line in their attacks.  The NRO crowd were just as bad. She should have had a hearing so people could make their own judgements on her. Not that it&#8217;s their choice. It used to be that the hearings were a formality unless the candidate had real problems, like Abe Fortas. Not any more. The choice has to placate the base of the party, get past the gang of 14, avoid a filibuster, and be prepared to have their life shredded in public. </p>
<p>Oh well, I&#8217;m just hoping Bush nominates Ken Starr. He&#8217;s extremely well qualified and would make a great justice.</p>
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		<title>By: PierreLegrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>PierreLegrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe...Well didn&#039;t think so but seeing as how I believe Goldwaters admonition to us is correct maybe its not far off.

&quot;I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.&quot; 

Perhaps one of the most brilliant quotes in modern political history.

Pierre Legrand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe&#8230;Well didn&#8217;t think so but seeing as how I believe Goldwaters admonition to us is correct maybe its not far off.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.&#8221; </p>
<p>Perhaps one of the most brilliant quotes in modern political history.</p>
<p>Pierre Legrand</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pierre,

I do not think you are being included in the criticism.  Unless you posted Bush is an idoit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierre,</p>
<p>I do not think you are being included in the criticism.  Unless you posted Bush is an idoit!</p>
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		<title>By: PierreLegrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>PierreLegrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye I am not a fanatic. I am a Goldwater republican who worked for and donated to Reagan in Nevada.  

My problem with the Miers nomination was simple. We cannot take a chance on an unknown when there are so many terrific jurists who are NOT unknown. It was not personal.  Waiting till the confirmation hearings would have been too late as the momentum to getting her nominated would have been overwhelming.

I relish the debate that will occur should President Bush nominate someone along the lines of Scalia or Bork or Thomas.  Apparently he does not relish the debate preferring instead to try and stealth his way past the debate. Sorry but I agree with Rush that he is as much a leader of a movement as he is a President.  By avoiding the fight with the left he hurt the movement. We can defend our ideas. The left cannot.

Furthermore I believe that President Bush may yet go down as one of the greatest Presidents to have lived. This doesn&#039;t mean that I think he is above criticism. He has failed to get the borders under control.  He has failed to get spending under control. Norman Mineta is still in power. Tenet recieved a freedom medal. Able Danger is being covered up by his own Dept of Defense.  

Having said all of that President Bush is probably the canniest political figure to have walked the earth in the last 100 years. He plays games within games and is a master of rope a dope and bluffing. 

I thank god every night that he is our President. But I still reserve my right to disagree with him.

Pierre Legrand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye I am not a fanatic. I am a Goldwater republican who worked for and donated to Reagan in Nevada.  </p>
<p>My problem with the Miers nomination was simple. We cannot take a chance on an unknown when there are so many terrific jurists who are NOT unknown. It was not personal.  Waiting till the confirmation hearings would have been too late as the momentum to getting her nominated would have been overwhelming.</p>
<p>I relish the debate that will occur should President Bush nominate someone along the lines of Scalia or Bork or Thomas.  Apparently he does not relish the debate preferring instead to try and stealth his way past the debate. Sorry but I agree with Rush that he is as much a leader of a movement as he is a President.  By avoiding the fight with the left he hurt the movement. We can defend our ideas. The left cannot.</p>
<p>Furthermore I believe that President Bush may yet go down as one of the greatest Presidents to have lived. This doesn&#8217;t mean that I think he is above criticism. He has failed to get the borders under control.  He has failed to get spending under control. Norman Mineta is still in power. Tenet recieved a freedom medal. Able Danger is being covered up by his own Dept of Defense.  </p>
<p>Having said all of that President Bush is probably the canniest political figure to have walked the earth in the last 100 years. He plays games within games and is a master of rope a dope and bluffing. </p>
<p>I thank god every night that he is our President. But I still reserve my right to disagree with him.</p>
<p>Pierre Legrand</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Beth, then I am in awesome company!  I thought we were above all that stuff.  And what is with Noonan????</description>
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