Apr 02 2009
Far Right Wants To Go Deeper Into The Political Wilderness
“If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012,†Gingrich said Tuesday. The speech, to a group of students at the College of the Ozarks in Missouri, was recorded by Springfield TV station KY3.
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“Remember, everything Obama’s doing, Bush started last year,†he said. “If you’re going to talk about big spending, the mistakes of the Bush administration last year are fully as bad as the mistakes of Obama’s first two, three months.â€
Still blaming Bush because the far right leaders in Congress porked up the bills and couldn’t contain their spending. Well, if Newt and Hannity want to go off deeper into the fringes to prove their purity over all others, be my guest!
The liberals are screwing up the country by going so far left even Europe is looking good these days, and the far right are stomping their purists little feet blaming everyone but themselves for their own messes. That is a fast track to 3rd place (dead last). If they want to create a 3rd place political party, go for it.
If this keeps up the stage will be left to the sane middle of America!
What in the heck is Newt thinking. He has the ability to go off the deep end, we have seen it often, and he has just done it again. Clearly he lets stuff go to his head.
AJ – was it the far rights member in Congress that porked up the bills or was it simply the members in Congress? Nor sure if the Far Right gets to wear that badge of distinction. If I remember right every body was at that trough.
Far right were the leaders, and yes they porked it up (bridge to nowhere ring a bell). It was NOT in Bush’s budget proposals.
Your are correct far right leaders did pork it up. I stand corrected. The bridge to nowhere was in 2005 when republicans were in charge.
That bill passed 412 to 8 in the house and 91 to 4 in the Senate.
They were all at the trough, led there of course by the republicans.
For some time I’ve believed that the Republicans have so mucked up their brand that a new third party is required. If one emerges by 2012 I’ll be there. That’s probably wishful thinking, though.
Still blaming Bush because the far right leaders in Congress porked up the bills and couldn’t contain their spending.
Yeah, I guess we shouldn’t be blaming Obama for the Dems in Congress sending him a Porkulus package instead of a stimulus package.
If only there was some method by which a President could resist irresponsible legislation being shoved down his throat. Oh, those silly Founding Fathers, they never foresaw that happ…wait, they did? it’s called a veto? who knew?
Newt’s right, AJ. If the Republican Party is packaged as the party of slighty-smaller big government AKA Democrat-Lite, why should anyone vote for their candidates? seriously, if the difference is one of degree why waste your vote on a Republican when you can vote Democrat?
Sorry Darth,
You’re being duped on this one. You have to know how DC works. Bush wanted unflinching support for Afghanistan and Iraq. The price was he would leave discretionary funding to the GOP in Congress. They spent the money.
Another way to look at it is are you claiming Bush was required to stop them form do something stupid by vetoing his own party and opening up a rift?
Like I said, his budgets never included that stuff. You’re pretty easy to manipulate, you know that? Did you really think I did not know about presidential vetoes? Bet this went better in your head than it is going now in reality.
Fine, whatever. Bush would have lost had he vetoed those bills. They passed overwhelmingly.
True or false: Republicans must break out of being the right wing party of big government.
You’re the resident moderate, the big tent guy. What is the way out of the wilderness?
Darth,
Simple, stop slamming conservatives who don’t exist on the far right fringe.
Bravo AJ.
Last weekend the national GOP called me begging for money. I told them to don’t bother calling me for a donation until they stop pushing centrists and moderate conservatives like me out. The next day when the Ohio GOP called, I hung up the phone as soon as the guy said the word “conservative.”
If we want out of the wilderness, we need to listen to moderates who have different ideas, and not the nutjobs on the far right who got us lost.
AJ, I think you are drawing the wrong conclusions from Newt’s comments.
He’s arguing – correctly – that the public has rejected Big Government With A Conservative Veneer. Modern conservatism is founded on the idea that Government is too big. As the saying goes, “When someone is grinding his boot into your face, it makes little difference whether it is a right or left boot.”
If the Republicans replay this in 2012, they will lose. The public has had a bellyful of it. A third party will come into a short-lived existence. Which is what Newt was warning of.
As for purity wars, you have been most willing to throw rocks yourself. Personally, I think the issue is the corrosively liberal miasma of Washington…which turns conservatives into moderates, moderates into liberals, and constituents into enraged victims.
I can’t remember all the details, but the Republicans seemed to go off the deep end when Dick Army left and Tom Delay took over.
Great post, Mike M. I second that. Ditto, ditto, ditto.
38 Republicans voted against the Republican budget plan.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are doomed.
38!? The polls much be worse than I thought. Obama is not sliding anymore and is regaining ground.
Those cries of nazism turned people off again.
Mike M,
Newt is a politician and therefore you need to listen to him over many discussions.
Trust me, he is in the purity camp. There is no other reason for him to make the threat publicly. There is still a fight raging for the heart of the GOP. If the far right wins the party is doomed.
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