Apr 19 2009
Reality Slams Global Warming Alarmists
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I wish the conservative fanatics had not gone mad belittling the science of genetics and evolution for a lot of reasons. First off, ignorance is just not a plan, let a lone a national policy. 2nd, if you want to make the case for sanctity of life in the matters of Embryonic Stem Cell Research DNA is the magic bullet which can prove embryos are human beings, and it is the core biochemical structure of evolution.
Being scientifically ignorant and on the record as challenging the essence of science also means they have no credible voice when it comes to challenging the left on matters of science. Which means they really cannot be part of the crowd who can say “I told you so” to the left when it comes to destroying the myth of man-made global warming. You cannot knock science on one topic and then claim partnership on another just because it fits your politics. The scientific method is uniform, it has no politics.Â
Today is a dark day for the myths of man-made global warming, as the hard data keeps coming in and the ice caps are not disappearing as claimed, but in the case of of Antarctica are actually expanding.
ICE is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.
The results of ice-core drilling and sea ice monitoring indicate there is no large-scale melting of ice over most of Antarctica, although experts are concerned at ice losses on the continent’s western coast.
Antarctica has 90 per cent of the Earth’s ice and 80 per cent of its fresh water. Extensive melting of Antarctic ice sheets would be required to raise sea levels substantially, and ice is melting in parts of west Antarctica. The destabilisation of the Wilkins ice shelf generated international headlines this month.
However, the picture is very different in east Antarctica, which includes the territory claimed by Australia.
East Antarctica is four times the size of west Antarctica and parts of it are cooling. The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research report prepared for last week’s meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown “significant cooling in recent decades”.
Australian Antarctic Division glaciology program head Ian Allison said sea ice losses in west Antarctica over the past 30 years had been more than offset by increases in the Ross Sea region, just one sector of east Antarctica.
Ice is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.
Al Gore and the UN IPCC have now been proven to be gravely wrong. Anyone who claims there are disappearing ice caps is either ignorant or a liar. And before the EPA, Obama and others demand we fight the life critical gas CO2 for personal gain, they better start dealing with reality.
Update: It seems the American public is fully aware that mother nature is not behaving as Al Gore and the IPCC claimed she would. A majority of people have clued in that CO2 is not a danger, especially CO2 generated by humans (a tiny fraction of the global CO2 mix).
djs,
In all sincerity and honesty – why are you thanking me???
Because there is the science of genetics and evolution, and there is there is the political and philosophical takeaway. You contradicted the political and philosophical takeaway that I think is a legitimate conservative objection to advocates of Darwinism.
This is just some thoughts, not argument.
Why is the DNA strain that became human the only one that has improved over time? Assume that strain was initially created in the image of it’s creator’s DNA (just who created that creator anyhow?)
I’m not sure what the earliest form of that DNA was, I’m sure there was something here before fish.
Why is it that every single thing in the world except the DNA strain that became human unimproves over time.
Nothing except the human strain improves.
Take a pair of rabbits and put them in a cage with plenty of food and water and come back 5 years later and see what you have. It certainly won’t be larger, more refined, more beautiful rabbits.
take a crab apple root and stump and graft a bartlett pear onto that root and let it grow for 30 years unattended. what will you have? a bunch of beautiful bartlett pears or a bunch of crabapples? hint: it won’t be bartlett pears.
take a manmade stone building and let it sit for a 1000 years without any human upkeep and what will you have? a better more beautiful building or a ruin? see the Acropolis and it had human upkeep.
til a garden into rows and plant beautiful healthy plants and come back three years later and see what you have. You likely wouldn’t even be able to find it.
What is my point? Someone that created humans have been tending to their creation and has seen that it continued to improve. But, I would contend that it was divinely created to evolve into what we will have 10,000 years from now, or later. We have not come close to reaching perfection.
But if humans had happened 100% by chance, why do they continue to improve when nothing else in the world does.
rockets did not just happen through chance alone and do not continue to improve with no thought or direction. Someone had to have a hand in it.
If anyone can come up with any single thing on earth that doesn’t share human DNA that self improves then maybe we could have a discussion about evolution WITHOUT creation.
Just thinking out loud
Redteam,
Reasonable questions deserve reasonable answers.
Why is the DNA strain that became human the only one that has improved over time? Assume that strain was initially created in the image of it’s creator’s DNA (just who created that creator anyhow?)
All living organism have improved over time. What you mean to ask is how is it humans have reached this extreme level on consciousness and self awareness. It seems fate was on our side
I’m not sure what the earliest form of that DNA was, I’m sure there was something here before fish.
There was and they are still with us. Earliest forms of life (and their DNA) is bacteria, fungus, viruses, plankton (small simple plants) and protozoa (small simple animals). No doubt, their fossils predate complex plants and animals.
Why is it that every single thing in the world except the DNA strain that became human unimproves over time.
Nothing except the human strain improves.
OK, you are showing your ignorance here. All forms have evolved, most improved to exploit a niche. Plants and animals are improvements over their precursors. Flying was a huge improvement, something humans cannot do naturally. It may surprise you how much the animal kingdom can do and survive beyond our meager skills. Are ability to build machines to overcome our natural weaknesses is our true strength.
Since this is a clear and obvious flaw in your understanding of the science of evolution I will skip to the end
rockets did not just happen through chance alone and do not continue to improve with no thought or direction. Someone had to have a hand in it.
Rockets are not living things, therefore they are not a product of evolution. Humans have incredible skills, one of which is a species memory (teaching and learning) which surpasses every other living thing. All animals have some level of ingenuity they pass on (beavers and their dams, birds and their nests, prairie dogs and their tunnels, bees and their hives) to the next generation. But Humans are able to learn and capture and pass on new traits at a phenomenal rate.
Everything self improves, Humans are simply the best. But it is also clear not all humans can self improve. Many prove the law of evolution over and over again when they fail and their line dies out.
Failure to adapt is the selection process of evolution, not just the ability to improve. Guess who seems to be failing to adapting to the modern world?
LOL! DJS, I violated nothing but your talking points. There is no science that dictates there is no God.
Just a myth fed to the easily confused and gullible.
What I said supports both science and religion. It has never been an either or issue except to the fringes.
Here’s more pie in the sky stuff: Never happen.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6122757.ece
Energy Secretary Offers Dire Global Warming Prediction
Speaking at the Summit of the Americas in the Carribean nation of Trinidad and Tobago, Steven Chu says some islands could disappear if water levels rise as a result of greenhouse-gas induced climate change.
Link to article above:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/19/energy-secretary-offers-dire-global-warming-prediction/
I wonder how Chu will explain the rising ocean levels now that the melting ice cap theory is proven false?
most creatures and plants that have improved, did so with human help (certainly not all)
Fruit trees, for example never reached the productiveness that they have until humans intervened and hybidized them.
Fruit trees now, left alone unattended will stop producing at the same magnitudes that they were.
granted rockets are not living things and neither are buildings, but they can and are built and greatly improved by humans.
birds being able to fly is certainly a stage in evolution, but they are also of the strain of DNA that humans are.
In my statement, I said: “Why is it that every single thing in the world except the DNA strain that became human unimproves over time.
Nothing except the human strain improves.”
my point was that birds also evolved from that same strain. when I said “Nothing except the human strain improves” intended that to read “Nothing except the DNA strain that also became the human strain improves. ” (Everything that came from that strain improves over time)” Everything else, not of that strain does not.
Rockets do not possess the DNA, neither do fruit trees.
Actually, I did have some botany courses in college and I don’t recall that plants improve as they evolve through natural selection as humans do. but I may be wrong.
thanks for your response.
There you go again, being silly.
How did Humans create flight in animals einstein? How did humans create mammals in the ocean, or life on earth from the oceans. You do know there were no humans around during these improvements – right?
What a joke. What you call human manipulation in domesticating plants and animals is the process of evolution and genetics, which has been known for hundreds of years.
man, skipping out on all those science classes left you incredibly naive my friend. How are you with setting up modern electronics – a bit lost?
Frogg
You have to laugh at what some of those clowns write after applying some interpretation to it.
Let’s interpret:
Some islands could disappear if water levels rise….
what? depends on how much the water level rises doesn’t it?
Could that be interpreted that some islands may not disappear if the levels do not rise?
Or, not all islands will disappear even if the water rises above them?
Oh, wait…he said: ” if water levels rise as a result of greenhouse-gas induced climate change”
so this may not happen if water levels rise for some other reason, only as a result of greenhouse gas induced climate change.
What about climate change for other reasons than greenhouse gases?
Wouldn’t this statement say the same thing?
If the sea level rises above the level of an island for any reason, the island will likely disappear and vice versa.
Gee, I shouldn’t laugh, he might have been serious….
….nah…….
AJ
How did Humans create flight in animals einstein? How did humans create mammals in the ocean, or life on earth from the oceans. You do know there were no humans around during these improvements – right?
I said the birds that evolved from the same DNA strains that humans evolved from, evolved the ability for flight, I didn’t say humans had anything to do with it.
mammals in the oceans evolved from the same DNA strains that humans evolved from. Humans had nothing to do with it.
What a joke. What you call human manipulation in domesticating plants and animals is the process of evolution and genetics, which has been known for hundreds of years.
man, skipping out on all those science classes left you incredibly naive my friend. How are you with setting up modern electronics – a bit lost?
So you make my point. Human manipulation in domesticaing plants does not mean plants evolved, it means they were hybridized.. The same as if you transplanted an eye into someone’s forehead. that wouldn’t be evolution. it would be alteration(hybrid)
Actually I didn’t skip any science classes.
Electronics? I was a radarman in the Navy, they have quite extensive training in electronics. Glad you asked? Ever repaired any radar systems on an aircraft carrier?