May 25 2009
Axis Of Evil Tests Obama Administration
And so we finally come to it. President Obama is facing severe national security tests this Memorial Day Weekend. First is a nuclear armed North Korea:
There have been expressions of international outrage after North Korea said it had successfully carried out an underground nuclear test.
After seismologists confirmed it had the power of a 4.5 quake, the US president said North Korea’s programme posed a “grave threat” to world peace.
Emphasis mine – and, Duh! And before liberals display their scientific and technical ignorance again it must be noted that it takes decades to build a nuclear weapon – so don’t go off blaming Bush, who tried his entire two terms to reign in NK in joint talks with its allies. Now China and Japan and South Korea will have to deal with their utter failures to control this maniac regime.
And the world is seeing the threat of a madman like Hitler, now armed with the most destructive weapons ever invented. Is Kim Il Jong mad enough to test whether the US would light up North Korea with nuclear retaliation strikes? I fear he may be.
And let’s not forget the mad Mullah’s of Iran, who are also on the verge of becoming madmen with nuclear weapons:
Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday rejected a Western proposal for it to “freeze” its nuclear work in return for no new sanctions and ruled out any talks with major powers on the issue.
The comments by the conservative president, who is seeking a second term in a June 12 election, are likely to further disappoint the U.S. administration of President Barack Obama, which is seeking to engage Iran diplomatically.
Madmen use diplomacy as a way to buy time so they can mass the resources to initiate their mad plans to take over the world. It is not a joke, and soon the world will be forced to learn the same harsh lesson we learned in World War II. Some people are beyond reason, and the more power they amass the farther from reason they become.
Liberals and Obama are about to meet madness in its fullest, most dangerous form. Madmen with the power to destroy massive numbers of people, and the will to use that power to gain what they want.
Udpate: North Korea is really flexing its muscles with a second nuclear test. Question is, how many more nuclear bombs do they have hidden away?
Mike M, found this in an article in The Australian:
“Analysts believe Pyongyang possesses five to 10 nuclear devices. The latest test appears to have been a plutonium bomb. That means Pyongyang has used a substantial section of its nuclear fuel in this test. However, the record is that North Korea keeps turning out to have more nuclear weapons and nuclear technology than Western intelligence assesses at any given moment. ”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25537128-5013460,00.html
Our allies have to be beside themselves in embarrassment for trusting us to prevent a regional arms race. All the time we were saying “you don’t need nuclear weapons, we will ensure that North Korea doesn’t get them”, we were busy crafting memos and sending them to Korea hoping Kim might get a paper cut and die or something.
Now our allies look like fools for having trusted us.
I am completely embarrassed by our government’s total and complete idiocy.
“open hearts, open minds, fair-minded words.â€
Looks like one dear leader has called out another—on Memorial Day to boot—not that that matters to the socialists but is symbolic to Americans. This should be the last straw for both NK and the UN—if they are not expelled from membership in the grand socialist body then we should pull out. Tell that hag Pelosi to drop the global cooling discussion with the Chinese and address real issues like nuclear warming and their surrogate NK. Better yet send madam Clinton over, I hear ol’ Kim Jung likes them big blonde American girls, plus Billy won’t mind.
These guys are laughing at our government but then again this is what happens when amateur’s are put in charge. Obama would be smart to just let the military make all these important decisions and then later he can blame the previous administration. Time to call both the NK and the Chinese bluff and then the Venezuelan and Iran—-hey that looks like some kind of axis of evil to me.
Typical panic and over-reaction from the right. Thank God we don’t have a bunch of chicken-hawks running our foreign policy any more who freak out every time our nemesis create an international “crises” and want to start blowing up the world.
Go back and review North Korean actions over the last 10+ years. Every single time North Korea falls off the international radar, Kim Il Jon creates some crises so the attention turns back to North Korea. He did consistently with both Clinton and Bush. He is doing it this time because he wants to get Obama’s attention and create leverage for the next round of negotiations.
This is not the first time that North Korea has tested a nuclear bomb or its missles for strategic reasons. North Korea has had a nuclear bomb and a delivery system for years. The world didn’t end when Kim Il Jong created a crises before, and it won’t end now. Kim Il Jong needs to be dealt with seriously, but if he wanted to blow up the world he would have done it by now. So calm down folks, you don’t need to panic every time one of our enemies tries to scare you.
Regime change? Are you people completely nuts? Where are we going to get the troops and resources to do that? Our military resources are completely maxed out in Afghanistan and Iraq, and both of those theatres look like they will get worse before they get better.
Can anyone reference a single military leader who has suggested we would be militarily capable of taking on North Korea, let alone advocate for it. Is John Bolton the best you people can cite – another chicken hawk who enlisted in the Maryland Army National Guard so he didn’t have to serve in Vietnam and now likes to talk big and tough when it is someone else’s life on the line?
Didn’t we learn the folly of starting a new war when the ones we are engaged in haven’t been completed? Do you people not appreciate the significance of the Taliban and Al Qaeda increasing their presence and control in Pakistan, the only nuclear armed Muslim country in the world, because we didn’t finish the job before starting Iraq.
Speaking of the Republican chicken hawks, it looks like Cheney and Rush have another decorated military commander to throw under the bus for advocating in favor of closing Gitmo and abandoning the EIT program. General Petraus has now publically backed Obama’s position on both of these issues. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/26/petraeus-endorses-obamas_n_207513.html
So let’s do an update on the score card. General Petraus, Colin Powell and John McCain all support the closure of Gitmo and the abandonment of the EIT prgram (aka torture) because it undermines our national security. Cheney and Rush, both who sought military deferements and never served a single day in the military, think the world will end if we close Gitmo or don’t maiontain the EIT program (even though Bush himself abandoned most of the EIT techniques in 2005/2006). Wow, that is a close one – tough call!
conman:
Talk about nuts, we have been sending troops to Korea for a half century. I doubt very much if we will see regime change there. I think the NK will just laugh at Barack and do what they want, but the idea that military force is completely out of the question completely ignores the long standing reality of our relationship with North Korea for the last 50 years.
And btw, when it comes to Gitmo conman, you idiot we can be sure that if McCain or Patraeus had been calling the shots to close Gitmo, they would have had a plan before they signed any executive orders. But then they are not just self absorbed frauds.
Right on Terrye!
I made the mistake of reading one of conman’s posts when I promised I would no longer read them. Much to my surprise instead of looking at the substance of the arguments he is still taking pols – pols of generals no less.
Still see he is using the chicken hawk canard. Guess Abe would not have been allowed to start and run the civil war because he never served in the military and took a rail road construction deferment and shamefully served as a congressman to get out of the Indian wars of the 1840s and 50s. He also had a whole lot of generals screaming at him telling him he was wrong. To bad Abe was not smart enough to take a pol of the generals to help guide him through the war. Instead he just fired them.
‘BREAKING: URGENT — North Korea says it will “respond militarily” to South Korea’s decision to joining the U.S.-led PSI.’
‘URGENT — North Korea calls the South’s decision to join a US-led anti-proliferation program a “declaration of war”, the AP reports.’
Ok, folks … here we go. And keep an eye on those Iranian warships.
“North Korea has abandoned the Korean War armistice, a cease-fire which was established on July 27, 1953 – Yonhap.”
Not sure what I find more amusing these days—the stubborn stupidity of the left or the attention deficit behavior of the left. In either case, it is alive and well both home and abroad. Thanks for the reminder Soros.
Terrye,
Our troops in South Korea are there as a deterence against a North Korean attack, not as an offensive force capable of attacking and taking down North Korea. Our military has never pretended that the force level is sufficient for an offensive campaign for regime change. Do you know anything about military strategy or foreign policy?
Terrye,
You are correct that Obama made a mistake announcing the closure of Gitmo before he had time to develop a plan. But your point diverts from the core question – should we develop a plan to close Gitmo or not? Cheney and the GOP say no because it is too dangerous. They want to hold these detainess there indefinitely. Powell and Petraus both support the closure in large part because Gitmo has hurt our image around the world and been a prime recruiting tool for muslim radicials. I thought we were supposed to listen to our military commanders, in particular Petraus? I guess that is only when he says what you want to hear.
Alert,
You are wrong to disparage Lincoln by comparing him to the chicken hawks like Cheney and Bolton who now speak for the GOP on military/foreign policy.
First of all, Lincoln served as a captain in a company of the Illinois militia during the Black Hawk War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln. He didn’t duck military service or try to get out of the Indian Wars, he obviously wanted to pursue a political career and that’s why he was a congressman.
Second, Lincoln was never quick to put our troops in harms way. He didn’t want a civil war, but he was forced to use military force when the south seceded. Nobody questions the necessity of his actions.
Cheney and Bolton, on the other hand, never served in the military and took actions directly to avoid service during a war. Nobody in their families currently serves in the military. And yet they are more than willing to solve any international problem by throwing our over-stretched and under-resourced military into harms way. I guess it is really easy to play pretend military commander when neither you nor your family has anyhting at stake.