Comments on: Not All Abortions Are “Murder”

By: JonahAB

JonahAB — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:24:29 +0000

I am unsure as to how I stand on abortion. I agree with almost everything that AJ says, but morally, abortion is either right, wrong, or neutral; there aren’t really any other reasonable options.
My thought is this; abortion can only be morally right in a world where personal convinience and advancement is the chief end of man, for, of itself, it serves no other purpose.
If abortion, (by its own nature), is a neutral act, then murder is also neutral, for how else can abortion be described except as the ending of a human life, both potential and current. (Assuming that a fetus is a human life)
If abortion is by nature wrong, then it is, as right-wing folk will tell you, the murder of the innocent, equivilent of death camp massacre, etc. (In all three cases excepting medical reasons.)
Your thoughts please; I don’t want to follow the radical lemmings into the slough of despond, but I do care about the truth.

By: Terrye

Terrye — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:45:01 +0000

I am not a zealot on the issue of abortion myself. Too many things can happen in a person’s life for any of us to say that we have all the answers.

But as for the pro life people turning Tiller’s killer in…what does that mean? The man had a record. He had been arrested before. What are they supposed to do, in fact what is the law supposed to do? Are the pro life people supposed to start locking people in closets?

By: TomAnon

TomAnon — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:51:06 +0000

Tough post to write AJ and well done it is.

To me, the front line argument was lost with Roe V. Wade. The focus needed to shift to a long term strategy of winning the “hearts and minds”. Changing hearts and minds means showing compassion and support to those in need. That has and always will be a central tenet of Christianity. For those to wrap themselves in religion and then commit murder does nothing but harden the hearts and minds of those needing compassion and support in their time of need. Where a person looking at terminating a life within them seek support from groups that would take a human life so easily as well?

By: WWS

WWS — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:46:45 +0000

And now today, 2 army recruiters have been shot in Arkansas, one dead, one injured.

http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0609/627959.html

Looks like some on the left are also willing to shed blood in pursuit of the culture war. Although somehow I doubt we’ll hear that this shooting discredits the entire anti-war, anti-military movement.

By: Toes192

Toes192 — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:34:42 +0000

I paid for 2 abortions for girlfriends in the 1970′s… so I write from within a completely enclosed glass and hypocritical house …
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My spontaneous instant reaction to hearing of Dr. Tiller’s murder surprised me…”GOOD!” I yelled…
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Dr. Tiller performed this procedure and other similar ones many times…
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Partial-Birth Abortion

Five steps to a partial birth abortion:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/abortiontypes/ …
Read that site if you have the guts …

1. Partial Birth Abortion (click for larger image)Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s legs with forceps.

2. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.

3. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.

4. Partial Birth Abortion (click for larger image)The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.

5. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
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And if on the jury, I would convict Dr. Tiller’s killer if the evidence supported it… and praise him as a hero
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I challenge you to google partial birth abortion & watch illustrations such as this….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vnOaq7nWU
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or maybe… 100 pictures of aborted “fetuses”
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/
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Surprising how a 71 year old geeze can get so emotional about little babies, isn’t it? You youngsters might think that out a little bit…

By: WWS

WWS — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:44:39 +0000

From a long term perspective, what to me is most interesting is that our society has now entered the stage at which John Browns body, far from a’mouldering in the grave, is popping back up to bedevil this country again – will a much wider social conflict be far behind?

And lest anyone think that the comparison to John Brown isn’t appropriate, allow me to point out that although to some people he was a freedom fighter, to others Brown is “the father of American terrorism.” Unlike the one man killed in the current case, John Brown was responsible for the murder of at least 12 persons (possibly more) and was legally hanged for his crimes
after being captured by Robert E. Lee, who was still in the U.S. Army at the time.

Just like Roeder, Brown believed that God had called upon him to smite the wicked, and he cared nothing for any laws of men that might stand in his way.