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		<title>By: gary1son</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465820</link>
		<dc:creator>gary1son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks DJ!</description>
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		<title>By: DJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465709</link>
		<dc:creator>DJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary1son,

Very well said. I couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
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<p>Very well said. I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: gary1son</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465705</link>
		<dc:creator>gary1son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our current President, who I think would be considered by almost everyone to wholly embody the &quot;left-wing&quot;, used the same core belief system espoused by Mr. &quot;Muhammad&quot; as one of the main pillars of his campaign to get the nomination.  And he continued to use it, although not &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; as much, in the general.  In fact, Muhammad&#039;s mantra has been employed by the bulk of the Democratic party or the &quot;left-wing&quot; in varying degrees since anyone dared suggest we strike back &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt; for 9/11, reaching MONUMENTAL heights after the Iraq operation started running into trouble.  It was almost entirely what they were about, and they continue to cling to it to this day.

While at the same time, abortion was far from a central issue or theme coming from John McCain.  There really wasn&#039;t that much talk about abortion by either side.

Minus the violence, Muhammad is barely distinguishable from Michael Moore ideology-wise, whose film Fahrenhype 9/11 was viewed and praised by top Democrat Party officials, along with everyone else on the left.  He sat next to Jimmy Carter at the 2004 convention.  I&#039;m having a hard time thinking of a valid counterpart on the right involving the issue of abortion. 

And who got the vast bulk of the Muslim vote in 2008 based on having in effect said the same thing Muhammad said about our foreign policy?  IF people want to blame Bill O&#039;Reilly for Tiller&#039;s death, then I&#039;m afraid we&#039;re just going to have to blame Barack Obama for this recruit&#039;s death.  

In other words, it&#039;s every bit as valid to label Muhammad &quot;left-wing&quot;, as it is to label Tiller&#039;s killer &quot;right-wing&quot;.   It looks to me like Muhammad is a better fit, actually.  However, I think it would make much more sense to simply put both men in the ANIMAL category, as they have pretty much given up their claim to being human.
  
Of course, it always seems to come back to the media.  They&#039;ll never point out these striking, undeniable parallels regarding Muhammad and Obama and the left, or the left-wing mouthpieces Muhammad may have been influenced by -- but they&#039;ll do everything they can to tie OUR mouthpieces, the entire Republican party, the entire conservative movement, in fact anyone who considers himself to be pro-life -- to Tiller&#039;s killer.  Anyone who speaks out against abortion is culpable, while the others skate on by.

How fundamentally unfair.  There&#039;d be marches in the streets if it came to be known that 8-9 out of 10 journalists and editors, the very people charged with supplying us with supposedly dispassionate information, voted for Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our current President, who I think would be considered by almost everyone to wholly embody the &#8220;left-wing&#8221;, used the same core belief system espoused by Mr. &#8220;Muhammad&#8221; as one of the main pillars of his campaign to get the nomination.  And he continued to use it, although not <i>quite</i> as much, in the general.  In fact, Muhammad&#8217;s mantra has been employed by the bulk of the Democratic party or the &#8220;left-wing&#8221; in varying degrees since anyone dared suggest we strike back <i>at all</i> for 9/11, reaching MONUMENTAL heights after the Iraq operation started running into trouble.  It was almost entirely what they were about, and they continue to cling to it to this day.</p>
<p>While at the same time, abortion was far from a central issue or theme coming from John McCain.  There really wasn&#8217;t that much talk about abortion by either side.</p>
<p>Minus the violence, Muhammad is barely distinguishable from Michael Moore ideology-wise, whose film Fahrenhype 9/11 was viewed and praised by top Democrat Party officials, along with everyone else on the left.  He sat next to Jimmy Carter at the 2004 convention.  I&#8217;m having a hard time thinking of a valid counterpart on the right involving the issue of abortion. </p>
<p>And who got the vast bulk of the Muslim vote in 2008 based on having in effect said the same thing Muhammad said about our foreign policy?  IF people want to blame Bill O&#8217;Reilly for Tiller&#8217;s death, then I&#8217;m afraid we&#8217;re just going to have to blame Barack Obama for this recruit&#8217;s death.  </p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s every bit as valid to label Muhammad &#8220;left-wing&#8221;, as it is to label Tiller&#8217;s killer &#8220;right-wing&#8221;.   It looks to me like Muhammad is a better fit, actually.  However, I think it would make much more sense to simply put both men in the ANIMAL category, as they have pretty much given up their claim to being human.</p>
<p>Of course, it always seems to come back to the media.  They&#8217;ll never point out these striking, undeniable parallels regarding Muhammad and Obama and the left, or the left-wing mouthpieces Muhammad may have been influenced by &#8212; but they&#8217;ll do everything they can to tie OUR mouthpieces, the entire Republican party, the entire conservative movement, in fact anyone who considers himself to be pro-life &#8212; to Tiller&#8217;s killer.  Anyone who speaks out against abortion is culpable, while the others skate on by.</p>
<p>How fundamentally unfair.  There&#8217;d be marches in the streets if it came to be known that 8-9 out of 10 journalists and editors, the very people charged with supplying us with supposedly dispassionate information, voted for Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465702</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>giantslor,

I have been thinking about expanding the roll. I have deleted Malkin, Redstate, NRO (with one exception), Macsmind and many others on the far right over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giantslor,</p>
<p>I have been thinking about expanding the roll. I have deleted Malkin, Redstate, NRO (with one exception), Macsmind and many others on the far right over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: giantslor</title>
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		<dc:creator>giantslor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am no longer a conservative&quot;

Your views still seem pretty conservative to me. And you continue to link almost solely to radical right wingers with the exception of John Cole. When will you remove these sites and start linking to Donklephant, Moderate Voice, and other centrist/center-left/center-right/moderate/independent blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am no longer a conservative&#8221;</p>
<p>Your views still seem pretty conservative to me. And you continue to link almost solely to radical right wingers with the exception of John Cole. When will you remove these sites and start linking to Donklephant, Moderate Voice, and other centrist/center-left/center-right/moderate/independent blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: DJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so this guy now considers himself a muslim fanatic, but he is a US CITIZEN. He recently converted to Islam and decided to go train in Yemen. Of course there is every possibility that he is a leftwing fanatic. Is it confirmed? No. Was this in retaliation to Dr. Tiller&#039;s murder? Probably not. But the fanatics on both sides need to be stopped from these violent acts. 

You all need to read through the posts a couple of times and try reading between the lines. My dad does not normally spell things out completely. Mainly because we all hope that the people reading this blog are smart enough to think things through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so this guy now considers himself a muslim fanatic, but he is a US CITIZEN. He recently converted to Islam and decided to go train in Yemen. Of course there is every possibility that he is a leftwing fanatic. Is it confirmed? No. Was this in retaliation to Dr. Tiller&#8217;s murder? Probably not. But the fanatics on both sides need to be stopped from these violent acts. </p>
<p>You all need to read through the posts a couple of times and try reading between the lines. My dad does not normally spell things out completely. Mainly because we all hope that the people reading this blog are smart enough to think things through.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465677</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy,

I don&#039;t have a side - I am no longer a conservative and never was a republican. And I can tell by your tirade you know damn well I can link to  numerous democrats making those claims. 

I will not rub your nose in it by doing so. But we both know I have a valid point. The lunatic left is no better than the lunatic right. Which was my point and which proves &#039;my side&#039; is the center of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a side &#8211; I am no longer a conservative and never was a republican. And I can tell by your tirade you know damn well I can link to  numerous democrats making those claims. </p>
<p>I will not rub your nose in it by doing so. But we both know I have a valid point. The lunatic left is no better than the lunatic right. Which was my point and which proves &#8216;my side&#8217; is the center of America.</p>
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		<title>By: GuyFawkes</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9271/comment-page-2#comment-465662</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyFawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a cheap, disgraceful partisan hack, who cares more about winning points for &quot;his side&quot; than you do about this country. Your desperation to prove that this shooting was a &quot;counter-point&quot; to the murder of Dr. Tiller, despite all evidence to the contrary, is quite sad, really.

You are also too vain and prideful to admit when you are wrong. How very un-Christian of you.

You have disgraced yourself, this site, and your very family with this disgusting display. Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a cheap, disgraceful partisan hack, who cares more about winning points for &#8220;his side&#8221; than you do about this country. Your desperation to prove that this shooting was a &#8220;counter-point&#8221; to the murder of Dr. Tiller, despite all evidence to the contrary, is quite sad, really.</p>
<p>You are also too vain and prideful to admit when you are wrong. How very un-Christian of you.</p>
<p>You have disgraced yourself, this site, and your very family with this disgusting display. Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy,

It is more than a casual connection. And no, you can&#039;t find anything to link me to storm front. I can quote numerous democrat leaders calling Bush and our war in Iraq mass murder and war crimes.

And you know I can. So stop your whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy,</p>
<p>It is more than a casual connection. And no, you can&#8217;t find anything to link me to storm front. I can quote numerous democrat leaders calling Bush and our war in Iraq mass murder and war crimes.</p>
<p>And you know I can. So stop your whining.</p>
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		<title>By: GuyFawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuyFawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be ashamed of yourself, AJ. You are now equating Muslim terrorists with &quot;the left&quot;, because they share a couple of opinions on Iraq and Afghanistan?

I&#039;m fairly certain I could find 2 or 3 common beliefs between you and, say, Stormfront. That doesn&#039;t make you a white supremicist.  And the fact that this terrorist shares a couple of beliefs with liberals does not make him a member of &quot;the fringe left&quot;.

I actually believed you yesterday when you promised a correction, becaused I believed you were a man of principle. Rest assured I will never think that again.

You have disgraced the memory of this brave soldier, in order to score a couple of cheap political points. And all because you are too vain to simply admit &quot;I was wrong&quot;. I hope your son is proud of you.

Shame on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be ashamed of yourself, AJ. You are now equating Muslim terrorists with &#8220;the left&#8221;, because they share a couple of opinions on Iraq and Afghanistan?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly certain I could find 2 or 3 common beliefs between you and, say, Stormfront. That doesn&#8217;t make you a white supremicist.  And the fact that this terrorist shares a couple of beliefs with liberals does not make him a member of &#8220;the fringe left&#8221;.</p>
<p>I actually believed you yesterday when you promised a correction, becaused I believed you were a man of principle. Rest assured I will never think that again.</p>
<p>You have disgraced the memory of this brave soldier, in order to score a couple of cheap political points. And all because you are too vain to simply admit &#8220;I was wrong&#8221;. I hope your son is proud of you.</p>
<p>Shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Have You Sacrificed Your Career And Life&#8217;s Work For Obama&#8217;s Liberal Economic Experiment?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Have You Sacrificed Your Career And Life&#8217;s Work For Obama&#8217;s Liberal Economic Experiment?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it was lost over the weekend after the murders committed by the left and right fringe (see here and here) pushed the post down &#8216;below the fold&#8217;. Â Comments by President Obama [...]</description>
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		<title>By: giantslor</title>
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		<dc:creator>giantslor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he is apparently a fundamentalist terrorist, just like the guy who shot the abortionist was.&quot;

A very good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he is apparently a fundamentalist terrorist, just like the guy who shot the abortionist was.&#8221;</p>
<p>A very good point.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7730637&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has been investigating this guy&lt;/a&gt; since he got back from Yemen.  

He isn&#039;t a lefty, he is apparently a fundamentalist terrorist, just like the guy who shot the abortionist was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7730637&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">has been investigating this guy</a> since he got back from Yemen.  </p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t a lefty, he is apparently a fundamentalist terrorist, just like the guy who shot the abortionist was.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;any more than Muslims are Christians because they both believe in God, Satan, Heaven and Hell.&quot;

Heh, Muslims believe in Jesus too, and in Old Testament and in Adam and Eve.  Muslims and Jews are cousins ... literally.  Supposedly one religion came from one son of Abraham and the other religion from the other son.  Christianity is simply a branch of Judaism.  

In fact, the whole conflict between the Jews and the Muslims doesn&#039;t even have to do with Mohamed. It has to do with interpretations of the Koran by ordinary men long after Mohamed was dead.  In the Hadith it is written that the Jews lost Israel because they refused to accept Mohamed as God&#039;s prophet and that they would never get it back until they did.  Well, now we have an Israel.  That means the Hadiths must be capable of being flawed ... which of course they are because they were created by men.  But if that interpretation is flawed, how many others are flawed?  And it is for that reason that the most devout Muslims refuse to recognize the existence of Israel because if they do, it calls a major part of their religion into question.

So recognizing Israel has nothing to do with land, has nothing to do with a Palestinian state.  It has to do with accepting that interpretations in the Hadith are capable of human fallacy.   And the most fundamentalist of the Muslims will never accept that and that is why any country that makes peace with Israel (Egypt and Jordan for example) are &quot;traitors to Islam&quot;.

And so these fundamentalists will continue to kill, will continue to commit unspeakable crimes in the name of God because they believe they are &quot;correct&quot;.  Same as the people who murder abortionists.  And as we support Israel, we then become accessories to this paradox that pits reality against their belief.  

The bottom line is that it is action out of desperation because Isreal really is there, their refusing to &quot;recognize it&quot; notwithstanding.  It means the Hadith *is* wrong.  And that must cause a need to destroy Israel before too many realize that and causes them to question the rest of their religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;any more than Muslims are Christians because they both believe in God, Satan, Heaven and Hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh, Muslims believe in Jesus too, and in Old Testament and in Adam and Eve.  Muslims and Jews are cousins &#8230; literally.  Supposedly one religion came from one son of Abraham and the other religion from the other son.  Christianity is simply a branch of Judaism.  </p>
<p>In fact, the whole conflict between the Jews and the Muslims doesn&#8217;t even have to do with Mohamed. It has to do with interpretations of the Koran by ordinary men long after Mohamed was dead.  In the Hadith it is written that the Jews lost Israel because they refused to accept Mohamed as God&#8217;s prophet and that they would never get it back until they did.  Well, now we have an Israel.  That means the Hadiths must be capable of being flawed &#8230; which of course they are because they were created by men.  But if that interpretation is flawed, how many others are flawed?  And it is for that reason that the most devout Muslims refuse to recognize the existence of Israel because if they do, it calls a major part of their religion into question.</p>
<p>So recognizing Israel has nothing to do with land, has nothing to do with a Palestinian state.  It has to do with accepting that interpretations in the Hadith are capable of human fallacy.   And the most fundamentalist of the Muslims will never accept that and that is why any country that makes peace with Israel (Egypt and Jordan for example) are &#8220;traitors to Islam&#8221;.</p>
<p>And so these fundamentalists will continue to kill, will continue to commit unspeakable crimes in the name of God because they believe they are &#8220;correct&#8221;.  Same as the people who murder abortionists.  And as we support Israel, we then become accessories to this paradox that pits reality against their belief.  </p>
<p>The bottom line is that it is action out of desperation because Isreal really is there, their refusing to &#8220;recognize it&#8221; notwithstanding.  It means the Hadith *is* wrong.  And that must cause a need to destroy Israel before too many realize that and causes them to question the rest of their religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: giantslor</title>
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		<dc:creator>giantslor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, why are you trying to equate an Islamist terrorist with the left wing? Don&#039;t try to claim this is the leftwing equivalent of the Tiller murder. This was not a left winger. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s even possible to be a leftist Islamist. You think that because a person thinks we shouldn&#039;t be in Iraq, that makes them a far left lunatic? I guess most of the American public are far left lunatics, then. How about Afghanistan? More than a few realists are afraid we are making the same mistake the Soviets did. Are they left wingers for thinking this? Just because Islamists share a few views with leftists, doesn&#039;t make Islamists leftists, any more than Muslims are Christians because they both believe in God, Satan, Heaven and Hell.

You&#039;re really reaching here, and it&#039;s not befitting a reasonable conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, why are you trying to equate an Islamist terrorist with the left wing? Don&#8217;t try to claim this is the leftwing equivalent of the Tiller murder. This was not a left winger. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even possible to be a leftist Islamist. You think that because a person thinks we shouldn&#8217;t be in Iraq, that makes them a far left lunatic? I guess most of the American public are far left lunatics, then. How about Afghanistan? More than a few realists are afraid we are making the same mistake the Soviets did. Are they left wingers for thinking this? Just because Islamists share a few views with leftists, doesn&#8217;t make Islamists leftists, any more than Muslims are Christians because they both believe in God, Satan, Heaven and Hell.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re really reaching here, and it&#8217;s not befitting a reasonable conservative.</p>
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