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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; GOP Finally Declares Liberal Economic Experiment A Failure</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9324/comment-page-1#comment-466554</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; GOP Finally Declares Liberal Economic Experiment A Failure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the part about the lack of a stimulus on the economy. My last two posts were quite clear (here and here). I find it sort of stunning Â it took the GOP this long to point out the obvious. All my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the part about the lack of a stimulus on the economy. My last two posts were quite clear (here and here). I find it sort of stunning Â it took the GOP this long to point out the obvious. All my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Trent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Trent.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent_Telenko</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9324/comment-page-1#comment-466336</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent_Telenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That would translate into flat or falling unemployment.&quot;

AJ,

  Don&#039;t you mean:

&quot;That would translate into flat or falling _employment._&quot;

After losing 3 point something million jobs, falling unemployment would mean Obama&#039;s plan might be working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That would translate into flat or falling unemployment.&#8221;</p>
<p>AJ,</p>
<p>  Don&#8217;t you mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;That would translate into flat or falling _employment._&#8221;</p>
<p>After losing 3 point something million jobs, falling unemployment would mean Obama&#8217;s plan might be working.</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obama&#8217;s Change: A Recession Much Worse Than The Carter Years</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9324/comment-page-1#comment-466335</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Obama&#8217;s Change: A Recession Much Worse Than The Carter Years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if the situation could not look any bleaker on the economic and job front than what I posted yesterday, a found disturbing chart on a left leaning blog site, amid a lot of concern the job situation is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if the situation could not look any bleaker on the economic and job front than what I posted yesterday, a found disturbing chart on a left leaning blog site, amid a lot of concern the job situation is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9324/comment-page-1#comment-466329</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, quoted in that post I linked to is a Reuters clip:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Remember the stress tests? The baseline scenario had unemployment in 2009 at 8.4%, rising to 8.9% under the more adverse scenario. Well, weâ€™re only up to May, and already itâ€™s at 9.4%.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I remember Lou Dobbs having someone on his radio show right after the stress tests asking if unemployment would reach 9%.  Now it&#039;s at 9.4 and it is less than a month later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, quoted in that post I linked to is a Reuters clip:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Remember the stress tests? The baseline scenario had unemployment in 2009 at 8.4%, rising to 8.9% under the more adverse scenario. Well, weâ€™re only up to May, and already itâ€™s at 9.4%.
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<p>I remember Lou Dobbs having someone on his radio show right after the stress tests asking if unemployment would reach 9%.  Now it&#8217;s at 9.4 and it is less than a month later.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(another)One of my favorite blogs &lt;a href=&quot;http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/06/05/spin-spin-spin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nails it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(another)One of my favorite blogs <a href="http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/06/05/spin-spin-spin/" rel="nofollow">nails it</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne at Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne at Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve linked to that chart from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/WhiteHouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s White House&lt;/a&gt; and have given you the Hat Tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve linked to that chart from <a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/WhiteHouse/" rel="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s White House</a> and have given you the Hat Tip.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9324/comment-page-1#comment-466252</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s approval index &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has hit 0 at Rasmussen&lt;/a&gt; which means that &quot;strongly approve&quot; and &quot;strongly disapprove&quot; are now evenly divided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s approval index <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll" rel="nofollow">has hit 0 at Rasmussen</a> which means that &#8220;strongly approve&#8221; and &#8220;strongly disapprove&#8221; are now evenly divided.</p>
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		<title>By: ama055131</title>
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		<dc:creator>ama055131</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all knew the crapulus bill was going to be a failure, but on the flip side the GOP must stick with it&#039;s core values if they want the 2010 elections to be a decisive victory.

We must come full circle and let John Q public know that smaller gov&#039;t and fiscal responsbility is the only way that America will grow and see the good times again.

As energy cost grows we must remind America that we do have our own natural resources and the Dems. have been unwilling to tap these resources.

The policies for our national security that was instituted after 9/11 is still in place even though the Dems. said they were not in favor of it during the election.

These are 3 basic principals that is the bread and butter of the GOP. 

If we fight amongst our selfs we will never have a chance to reverse the course we are on now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all knew the crapulus bill was going to be a failure, but on the flip side the GOP must stick with it&#8217;s core values if they want the 2010 elections to be a decisive victory.</p>
<p>We must come full circle and let John Q public know that smaller gov&#8217;t and fiscal responsbility is the only way that America will grow and see the good times again.</p>
<p>As energy cost grows we must remind America that we do have our own natural resources and the Dems. have been unwilling to tap these resources.</p>
<p>The policies for our national security that was instituted after 9/11 is still in place even though the Dems. said they were not in favor of it during the election.</p>
<p>These are 3 basic principals that is the bread and butter of the GOP. </p>
<p>If we fight amongst our selfs we will never have a chance to reverse the course we are on now.</p>
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		<title>By: Toes192</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toes192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too bright on this stuff as I just worked for my 40 years in the workplace... I just have the &quot;feeling&quot; that the Dems are trying to maneuver the stimulus $$ &amp; programs so that the economy will improve in 2010... Simple... $$ for votes &quot;hoping&quot; the stimulus works in an election year... That, Aj... is why it isn&#039;t being disbursed very quickly... 
.
btw... Tx to you youngsters for the $250.oo you  gave me for being old and alive... As President Obama said via Michael Astrue [Commissioner of Social Security] when they sent the free money... 
.
I quote from the lead paragraph... 
           &quot; Good news !&quot; 
[Yes, they put the exclamation mark ... a good heh] 
.
&quot;The economic recover bill that President Obama signed into law Feb 2009 provides for a one time payment of $250 to Social Security &amp; Supplemental Security Income tax beneficiaries.....You do not have to do anything to receive this payment&gt; bla bla bla...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too bright on this stuff as I just worked for my 40 years in the workplace&#8230; I just have the &#8220;feeling&#8221; that the Dems are trying to maneuver the stimulus $$ &amp; programs so that the economy will improve in 2010&#8230; Simple&#8230; $$ for votes &#8220;hoping&#8221; the stimulus works in an election year&#8230; That, Aj&#8230; is why it isn&#8217;t being disbursed very quickly&#8230;<br />
.<br />
btw&#8230; Tx to you youngsters for the $250.oo you  gave me for being old and alive&#8230; As President Obama said via Michael Astrue [Commissioner of Social Security] when they sent the free money&#8230;<br />
.<br />
I quote from the lead paragraph&#8230;<br />
           &#8221; Good news !&#8221;<br />
[Yes, they put the exclamation mark ... a good heh]<br />
.<br />
&#8220;The economic recover bill that President Obama signed into law Feb 2009 provides for a one time payment of $250 to Social Security &amp; Supplemental Security Income tax beneficiaries&#8230;..You do not have to do anything to receive this payment&gt; bla bla bla&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Really, what else could go wrong?&quot;

The rising number of unemployed workers combined with rising interest rates from wildly increasing deficits could spark a whole new wave of defaults and foreclosures as more and more people are unable to afford the homes they&#039;re in, which in turn will drive commercial and residential values even lower which will create an entirely new round of bank and business failures.  And states like California and New York could enact massive de-stimulation plans, which is what happens when a governement runs out of money and has to dramatically slash spending and cut payrolls, thus further hurting both the unemployment and the housing situation.   

That&#039;s what else could go wrong.  

But naaah, what chance is there of that happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Really, what else could go wrong?&#8221;</p>
<p>The rising number of unemployed workers combined with rising interest rates from wildly increasing deficits could spark a whole new wave of defaults and foreclosures as more and more people are unable to afford the homes they&#8217;re in, which in turn will drive commercial and residential values even lower which will create an entirely new round of bank and business failures.  And states like California and New York could enact massive de-stimulation plans, which is what happens when a governement runs out of money and has to dramatically slash spending and cut payrolls, thus further hurting both the unemployment and the housing situation.   </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what else could go wrong.  </p>
<p>But naaah, what chance is there of that happening?</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read that nearly half of the stimulus money went to those unemployable, Medicaid, medicare, and unemployment insurances to help states out. 

Now states are asking for more money to fix the roads.

Barney Franks is the new face and decider of how the Auto industry will or will not operate. 

A new pay czar will tell industry what compensation can be paid, not only to TARP receivers, but private companies as well. 

Congress will pass universal health care. Because they can&#039;t find a way to pay for it, they are going to turn the decisions over to a czar group in the White House to tell us the people what we can do and can&#039;t do for our health. Once they have all our records they can know if we are too old for hip replacement, when there are 10 youngsters waiting in line. A good way to keep government costs down. I&#039;m wondering if the same committee would have allowed Teddy Kennedy to have that brain tumor removed, given his age, drinking and general health. 

It is good that the number of unemployed is slowing. What happens if very few of those unemployed never get hired and just stay unemployed? It could happen!

Really, what else could go wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that nearly half of the stimulus money went to those unemployable, Medicaid, medicare, and unemployment insurances to help states out. </p>
<p>Now states are asking for more money to fix the roads.</p>
<p>Barney Franks is the new face and decider of how the Auto industry will or will not operate. </p>
<p>A new pay czar will tell industry what compensation can be paid, not only to TARP receivers, but private companies as well. </p>
<p>Congress will pass universal health care. Because they can&#8217;t find a way to pay for it, they are going to turn the decisions over to a czar group in the White House to tell us the people what we can do and can&#8217;t do for our health. Once they have all our records they can know if we are too old for hip replacement, when there are 10 youngsters waiting in line. A good way to keep government costs down. I&#8217;m wondering if the same committee would have allowed Teddy Kennedy to have that brain tumor removed, given his age, drinking and general health. </p>
<p>It is good that the number of unemployed is slowing. What happens if very few of those unemployed never get hired and just stay unemployed? It could happen!</p>
<p>Really, what else could go wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: daniel ortega</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Rasmussen&#039;s Daily Tracking Poll of Presidential Approval
has finally hit 0% . The lowest so far. Going into the minus territory
is hopefully soon.

Do I really want El-Presidente&#039; to fail?

Si !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Rasmussen&#8217;s Daily Tracking Poll of Presidential Approval<br />
has finally hit 0% . The lowest so far. Going into the minus territory<br />
is hopefully soon.</p>
<p>Do I really want El-Presidente&#8217; to fail?</p>
<p>Si !</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9.4% is the good news.  The bad news is that there were 187,000 new government jobs added, so it could have been worse.

Either way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelscomments.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/stimulus-vs-unemployment-may.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the unemployment number looks worse&lt;/a&gt; than the Recovery Plan (or without it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9.4% is the good news.  The bad news is that there were 187,000 new government jobs added, so it could have been worse.</p>
<p>Either way, <a href="http://michaelscomments.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/stimulus-vs-unemployment-may.gif" rel="nofollow">the unemployment number looks worse</a> than the Recovery Plan (or without it)</p>
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		<title>By: bobsunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobsunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smoke and mirrors.  But the state run media outlets are already saying how this lower than expected number is showing a bottom.  Take a look over at Michael&#039;s.  He shows the chart of percent unemployment predicted with and without the stimulus-recovery package, plus the actual each month.  One thing that Obama will say is &quot;it could have been worst if we didn&#039;t save all those other jobs&quot;.  

http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/the-may-unemployment-numbers-are-here-and-worse-than-predicted/

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Oh, I see Barney Frank just saved a number of jobs.  He convinced GM execs not to close a manufacturing plant in his district.  What power.

-------------------------

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15009

Rep Barney Frank (D-Mass.) won a stay of execution on Thursday for a General Motors plant in his district that the automaker had announced it would close.

No other lawmaker has managed to halt the GM ax. As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee Frank oversees the governmentâ€™s bailout program, known as TARP. Frankâ€™s staff said the lawmaker spokes with GM CEO Fritz Henderson on Wednesday and convinced him to keep the Norton, Mass. plant open for at least 14 months.

GM announced Monday in its bankruptcy and restructuring plans it would close of nine of its plants and idle three others. The automaker said it would also shutter three service and parts operations by the end of the year â€” one of which is in Frankâ€™s district.

â€œI greatly appreciate General Motorsâ€™ willingness to take into consideration the wider needs of the company and especially the community,â€ Frank said in a statement. â€œKeeping the facility open for this extra time gives workers a chance to look at other opportunities, while at the same time continuing to provide for their families.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoke and mirrors.  But the state run media outlets are already saying how this lower than expected number is showing a bottom.  Take a look over at Michael&#8217;s.  He shows the chart of percent unemployment predicted with and without the stimulus-recovery package, plus the actual each month.  One thing that Obama will say is &#8220;it could have been worst if we didn&#8217;t save all those other jobs&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/the-may-unemployment-numbers-are-here-and-worse-than-predicted/" rel="nofollow">http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/the-may-unemployment-numbers-are-here-and-worse-than-predicted/</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Oh, I see Barney Frank just saved a number of jobs.  He convinced GM execs not to close a manufacturing plant in his district.  What power.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15009" rel="nofollow">http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15009</a></p>
<p>Rep Barney Frank (D-Mass.) won a stay of execution on Thursday for a General Motors plant in his district that the automaker had announced it would close.</p>
<p>No other lawmaker has managed to halt the GM ax. As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee Frank oversees the governmentâ€™s bailout program, known as TARP. Frankâ€™s staff said the lawmaker spokes with GM CEO Fritz Henderson on Wednesday and convinced him to keep the Norton, Mass. plant open for at least 14 months.</p>
<p>GM announced Monday in its bankruptcy and restructuring plans it would close of nine of its plants and idle three others. The automaker said it would also shutter three service and parts operations by the end of the year â€” one of which is in Frankâ€™s district.</p>
<p>â€œI greatly appreciate General Motorsâ€™ willingness to take into consideration the wider needs of the company and especially the community,â€ Frank said in a statement. â€œKeeping the facility open for this extra time gives workers a chance to look at other opportunities, while at the same time continuing to provide for their families.â€</p>
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