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	<title>Comments on: Iran&#8217;s Elections Stolen, Civil Backlash On The Rise, Ruling Mullahs In Trouble</title>
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		<title>By: Is the Iranian Election Scenario the US in 2012? &#124; The Pink Flamingo</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468115</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the Iranian Election Scenario the US in 2012? &#124; The Pink Flamingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now you obviously know that Ahmadinejad has basically &#8220;stolen&#8221; the election in Iran.Â  Civil unrest is growing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now you obviously know that Ahmadinejad has basically &#8220;stolen&#8221; the election in Iran.Â  Civil unrest is growing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gary1son</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468110</link>
		<dc:creator>gary1son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1079666.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush was wrong:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bush: Well, I would like very much for the Iranian people to realize that a society based upon rule of law and free speech and free worship of religion -- there is nothing I would like to see more than a society in which young girls can grow up to realize their dreams, with a good education system. You know, this regime, however, is one that sometimes when people express themselves in an open way there can be serious punishment. This is a regime that says they have elections but they get to decide who&#039;s on the ballot, which is not a free and fair election. So this is a regime and a society that&#039;s got a long way to go. &lt;b&gt;But the people of Iran can rest assured that the United States -- whether I&#039;m president or [it&#039;s] the next president -- will strongly support their desires to live in a free society.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m thinking that IF any U.S. President&#039;s words HAVE influenced what&#039;s going on in Iran currently, it&#039;s those of President Bush.  It seems to me that the young bright people in Iran would have been nothing but discouraged, if not totally confused, by Obama&#039;s stated policies and recent speeches -- But of course that part of the world is so foreign and hard to understand that I might as well be speculating about the third planet from Alpha Centauri.  

However, I think having the largest possible amount of personal freedom is a pretty common desire within those inhabiting this and probably even other planetary systems. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say, but <a href="http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1079666.html" rel="nofollow">Bush was wrong:</a></p>
<blockquote><p><i>Bush: Well, I would like very much for the Iranian people to realize that a society based upon rule of law and free speech and free worship of religion &#8212; there is nothing I would like to see more than a society in which young girls can grow up to realize their dreams, with a good education system. You know, this regime, however, is one that sometimes when people express themselves in an open way there can be serious punishment. This is a regime that says they have elections but they get to decide who&#8217;s on the ballot, which is not a free and fair election. So this is a regime and a society that&#8217;s got a long way to go. <b>But the people of Iran can rest assured that the United States &#8212; whether I&#8217;m president or [it's] the next president &#8212; will strongly support their desires to live in a free society.</b></i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking that IF any U.S. President&#8217;s words HAVE influenced what&#8217;s going on in Iran currently, it&#8217;s those of President Bush.  It seems to me that the young bright people in Iran would have been nothing but discouraged, if not totally confused, by Obama&#8217;s stated policies and recent speeches &#8212; But of course that part of the world is so foreign and hard to understand that I might as well be speculating about the third planet from Alpha Centauri.  </p>
<p>However, I think having the largest possible amount of personal freedom is a pretty common desire within those inhabiting this and probably even other planetary systems. <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468106</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>merlin,

That crap is pure delusional fantasy.  I thought better of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>merlin,</p>
<p>That crap is pure delusional fantasy.  I thought better of you.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468103</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/06/loathsome-charade.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EuReferendum&lt;/a&gt; has their take</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/06/loathsome-charade.html" rel="nofollow">EuReferendum</a> has their take</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468099</link>
		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found at PAJAMAS MEDIA

Reports are circulating that VENEZUELA has sent anti-riot troops to Tehran to help Ahmadinejad, joining Hezbollah members from Palestine and Lebanon who are employed by the Islamic government as anti-riot police â€” the reason such forces are being brought in is that some of the Iranian police are unwilling to hit people as ordered and some are even joining the protesters.

NOT GOOD NEWS! WE NEED TO KEEP A GOOD EYE ON VENEZUELA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found at PAJAMAS MEDIA</p>
<p>Reports are circulating that VENEZUELA has sent anti-riot troops to Tehran to help Ahmadinejad, joining Hezbollah members from Palestine and Lebanon who are employed by the Islamic government as anti-riot police â€” the reason such forces are being brought in is that some of the Iranian police are unwilling to hit people as ordered and some are even joining the protesters.</p>
<p>NOT GOOD NEWS! WE NEED TO KEEP A GOOD EYE ON VENEZUELA.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9453/comment-page-1#comment-468097</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what? People said that the region was hopeless, the US could not bring democracy to the Middle East, but right now Iraq is more stable than Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what? People said that the region was hopeless, the US could not bring democracy to the Middle East, but right now Iraq is more stable than Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerlineblog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Powerline&lt;/a&gt; there is not a dime&#039;s worth of difference between these two candidates, but apparently there are  a lot of Iranians who do not see it that way.

As for the mullahs, if they did not want this Mousavi to win, they could always have refused to let him run. After all, they get to decide who can and can not run for office. 

I am not sure what is going on. Perhaps this has more to do with corruption than it does with a softening of the hardline stance on nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com" rel="nofollow">Powerline</a> there is not a dime&#8217;s worth of difference between these two candidates, but apparently there are  a lot of Iranians who do not see it that way.</p>
<p>As for the mullahs, if they did not want this Mousavi to win, they could always have refused to let him run. After all, they get to decide who can and can not run for office. </p>
<p>I am not sure what is going on. Perhaps this has more to do with corruption than it does with a softening of the hardline stance on nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that both men are much the same on foreign policy. It was under Mousavi that the uranium project got started. Never the less, it would have given Obama a clean start with his face to face negotiations. The difference between the two men is that Mousavi is much more liberal socially, which is very attractive to such a young population. 

Who knows, Mousavi might have given up the bomb with some carrots, and the hope of a thriving nation that all the young could be proud of. 

So if this election stands, I can&#039;t see how Obama can be in a better position then Bush found himself. The one he inherited from Clinton (just had to say that).

But so much young energy was devoted to this election and it&#039;s outcome, it seems improbable that there will be smooth sailing from this fraud. Many will die and many more put in jail as the establishment tries to curb the dissatisfaction.  As Ahmadinejad tries to spin this he will sound more and more foolish and less and less credible at home and on the public stage. What will his rant sound like at the UN in September? Like the fraud he is I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that both men are much the same on foreign policy. It was under Mousavi that the uranium project got started. Never the less, it would have given Obama a clean start with his face to face negotiations. The difference between the two men is that Mousavi is much more liberal socially, which is very attractive to such a young population. </p>
<p>Who knows, Mousavi might have given up the bomb with some carrots, and the hope of a thriving nation that all the young could be proud of. </p>
<p>So if this election stands, I can&#8217;t see how Obama can be in a better position then Bush found himself. The one he inherited from Clinton (just had to say that).</p>
<p>But so much young energy was devoted to this election and it&#8217;s outcome, it seems improbable that there will be smooth sailing from this fraud. Many will die and many more put in jail as the establishment tries to curb the dissatisfaction.  As Ahmadinejad tries to spin this he will sound more and more foolish and less and less credible at home and on the public stage. What will his rant sound like at the UN in September? Like the fraud he is I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Toes192</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toes192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Saturday opinion... quote... &quot;The election will be stolen from the winner of the popular vote if thatâ€™s what they  wantâ€¦&quot; [they being the â€œGuardians Council, a 12-member body of clerics and juristsâ€]...
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The enforcement limb of the Mullah power would be the Iran Revolutionary Guard... [IRG is the acronym you will see] ...
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I opine that the IRG [and other misc police entities] will be ruthless and successful in putting down this uprising and that the Mullah&#039;s will retain their power...
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Perhaps I am influenced by 14 years of observing the passivity of Saudi public... 
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Hopefully the Iranians are made of better stuff... Pleeese be wrong, Toes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Saturday opinion&#8230; quote&#8230; &#8220;The election will be stolen from the winner of the popular vote if thatâ€™s what they  wantâ€¦&#8221; [they being the â€œGuardians Council, a 12-member body of clerics and juristsâ€]&#8230;<br />
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The enforcement limb of the Mullah power would be the Iran Revolutionary Guard&#8230; [IRG is the acronym you will see] &#8230;<br />
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I opine that the IRG [and other misc police entities] will be ruthless and successful in putting down this uprising and that the Mullah&#8217;s will retain their power&#8230;<br />
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Perhaps I am influenced by 14 years of observing the passivity of Saudi public&#8230;<br />
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Hopefully the Iranians are made of better stuff&#8230; Pleeese be wrong, Toes&#8230;</p>
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