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		<title>By: GuyFawkes</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9782/comment-page-2#comment-474468</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyFawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWS:

When was the last time you actually read the Washington Post Op-Ed page? You know, the one that regularly prints columns from Fred Hiatt, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jim Hoagland, Michael Gerson and Robert Kagan? The fact that you call the WashPo &quot;pro-Obama&quot; just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and can only spout meaningless GOP talking points - instead of actual facts.</description>
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<p>When was the last time you actually read the Washington Post Op-Ed page? You know, the one that regularly prints columns from Fred Hiatt, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jim Hoagland, Michael Gerson and Robert Kagan? The fact that you call the WashPo &#8220;pro-Obama&#8221; just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and can only spout meaningless GOP talking points &#8211; instead of actual facts.</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9782/comment-page-2#comment-474463</link>
		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even the pro-Obama Washington Post sees that the Good Ship Obama has struck it&#039;s iceberg and is dead in the water;  see 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070702341.html   

One of the nice things about the fall of Obama is that morons like guy will vanish into the woodwork and never post again.

The coming Great Fall of Obama is going to be a joy to behold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even the pro-Obama Washington Post sees that the Good Ship Obama has struck it&#8217;s iceberg and is dead in the water;  see </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070702341.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070702341.html</a>   </p>
<p>One of the nice things about the fall of Obama is that morons like guy will vanish into the woodwork and never post again.</p>
<p>The coming Great Fall of Obama is going to be a joy to behold.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9782/comment-page-2#comment-474323</link>
		<dc:creator>Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sttatewide polls all over the country show Obama losing independents in droves:

http://fredbauerblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/independents-in-balance.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sttatewide polls all over the country show Obama losing independents in droves:</p>
<p><a href="http://fredbauerblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/independents-in-balance.html" rel="nofollow">http://fredbauerblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/independents-in-balance.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GuyFawkes</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9782/comment-page-2#comment-474082</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyFawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously - how deluded are you people? I know you all like to take pride in your own willful ignorance, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gallup.com/poll/120815/Republicans-Down-Own-Party.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these aren&#039;t complicated numbers.&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Among all Americans, the poll shows a 19-point advantage for the Democratic Party over the Republican Party when it comes to the two parties&#039; respective favorable images -- a finding little changed from last November, when Gallup last updated the parties&#039; images. Fifty-three percent of Americans today have a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, compared to just 34% who have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party.&quot;

38% of *Republicans* have an &quot;unfavorable&quot; view OF THEIR OWN PARTY. The idea of the GOP taking over the White House in 2012 is laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously &#8211; how deluded are you people? I know you all like to take pride in your own willful ignorance, but <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/120815/Republicans-Down-Own-Party.aspx" rel="nofollow">these aren&#8217;t complicated numbers.</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Among all Americans, the poll shows a 19-point advantage for the Democratic Party over the Republican Party when it comes to the two parties&#8217; respective favorable images &#8212; a finding little changed from last November, when Gallup last updated the parties&#8217; images. Fifty-three percent of Americans today have a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, compared to just 34% who have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>38% of *Republicans* have an &#8220;unfavorable&#8221; view OF THEIR OWN PARTY. The idea of the GOP taking over the White House in 2012 is laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian â€œbrandâ€.&quot;

Yeah, what put me off the libertarians for good as a political party was when they nominated the man who dyed himself blue out of fear of Y2K.   Sorry, that just screamed &quot;we&#039;re idiots and we&#039;re proud of it!!!&quot;

And then you have gems like Ron Paul running around defaming the brand.  Ron Paul, who once again distinguished himself by being the only congressmen out of that entire rogues gallery who actually had the gall to vote against supporting the Iranian dissidents.

I don&#039;t care that the vote was symbolic, I don&#039;t care about all the fancy reasoning that went into explaining your position - you vote in favor of Aminadjab, Ron, and you just lost the last chance at credibility you had left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian â€œbrandâ€.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, what put me off the libertarians for good as a political party was when they nominated the man who dyed himself blue out of fear of Y2K.   Sorry, that just screamed &#8220;we&#8217;re idiots and we&#8217;re proud of it!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>And then you have gems like Ron Paul running around defaming the brand.  Ron Paul, who once again distinguished himself by being the only congressmen out of that entire rogues gallery who actually had the gall to vote against supporting the Iranian dissidents.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that the vote was symbolic, I don&#8217;t care about all the fancy reasoning that went into explaining your position &#8211; you vote in favor of Aminadjab, Ron, and you just lost the last chance at credibility you had left.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is the most important â€œconservative principleâ€- limited government interference into othersâ€™ affairs. &quot;

Uhm, that is &quot;classical&quot; liberalism or, more recently, libertarianism.  The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian &quot;brand&quot;.  

What I fear is things like &quot;intelligent design&quot; creeping into the schools and other &quot;Christian&quot; doctrine being imposed on people.  I don&#039;t want to see the abortion or gay rights issues discussed at the national level at all.  Those are issues for states or even lower levels of government to decide based on the community values of those locations.  If people want government health care, a state is completely within their constitutional rights to provide it if that is what the voters of that state want.  Same with such things as unemployment compensation.  Those are social matters that the federal government should stay out of.

So if you are against gay marriage, against abortion, and pro business, you should be able to find a place to live that reflects those values.  And if you are for those things, the same thing applies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is the most important â€œconservative principleâ€- limited government interference into othersâ€™ affairs. &#8221;</p>
<p>Uhm, that is &#8220;classical&#8221; liberalism or, more recently, libertarianism.  The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian &#8220;brand&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What I fear is things like &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; creeping into the schools and other &#8220;Christian&#8221; doctrine being imposed on people.  I don&#8217;t want to see the abortion or gay rights issues discussed at the national level at all.  Those are issues for states or even lower levels of government to decide based on the community values of those locations.  If people want government health care, a state is completely within their constitutional rights to provide it if that is what the voters of that state want.  Same with such things as unemployment compensation.  Those are social matters that the federal government should stay out of.</p>
<p>So if you are against gay marriage, against abortion, and pro business, you should be able to find a place to live that reflects those values.  And if you are for those things, the same thing applies.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9782/comment-page-2#comment-474065</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But over the years many on the left have lived and died by them. What do they say to this? (h/t The Strata Sphere) President Obamaâ€™s job approval in Ohio has dropped significantly in the last two months, dipping [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But over the years many on the left have lived and died by them. What do they say to this? (h/t The Strata Sphere) President Obamaâ€™s job approval in Ohio has dropped significantly in the last two months, dipping [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marksbbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksbbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Crosspatch.  Government has no business shoving anyone&#039;s &quot;values&quot; into any community, whichever way it leans.  That is the most important &quot;conservative principle&quot;- limited government interference into others&#039; affairs.  And, in this, lies the true reason Conservatives lost- they spent years shoving social values and norms down peoples&#039; throats instead of letting people live their own lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Crosspatch.  Government has no business shoving anyone&#8217;s &#8220;values&#8221; into any community, whichever way it leans.  That is the most important &#8220;conservative principle&#8221;- limited government interference into others&#8217; affairs.  And, in this, lies the true reason Conservatives lost- they spent years shoving social values and norms down peoples&#8217; throats instead of letting people live their own lives.</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with you there, Crosspatch.  I have no interest at all in shoving my preferences down someone else&#039;s throat.  They can damn well do as they please, as long as THEY don&#039;t try to shove THEIR preferences down MY throat!  But they always do - just look at the things contained in that crap and trade abortion that&#039;s looming.  

And that&#039;s what government in this country has come to - a game to see who can get control, just so they can shove their group&#039;s preferences down everybody else&#039;s throats.  And those who try to stay out of that game get abused by everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with you there, Crosspatch.  I have no interest at all in shoving my preferences down someone else&#8217;s throat.  They can damn well do as they please, as long as THEY don&#8217;t try to shove THEIR preferences down MY throat!  But they always do &#8211; just look at the things contained in that crap and trade abortion that&#8217;s looming.  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what government in this country has come to &#8211; a game to see who can get control, just so they can shove their group&#8217;s preferences down everybody else&#8217;s throats.  And those who try to stay out of that game get abused by everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;conservative principles&quot; means shoving conservative social values down the throats of traditionally liberal communities, I would say &quot;count me out&quot;.  Personally, I consider myself more conservative than most BUT I do not believe in enforcing my values on my neighbor. That is the major problem I have with the liberals and the conservatives ... they attempt to use government as a vehicle to promote a social agenda.  Let society adopt its own agenda and let government take its nose elsewhere.

A conservative community should be left alone as should a liberal community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;conservative principles&#8221; means shoving conservative social values down the throats of traditionally liberal communities, I would say &#8220;count me out&#8221;.  Personally, I consider myself more conservative than most BUT I do not believe in enforcing my values on my neighbor. That is the major problem I have with the liberals and the conservatives &#8230; they attempt to use government as a vehicle to promote a social agenda.  Let society adopt its own agenda and let government take its nose elsewhere.</p>
<p>A conservative community should be left alone as should a liberal community.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Gallup Poll found that:

    â€œPRINCETON, NJ â€” Despite the results of the 2008 presidential election, Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, say their political views in recent years have become more conservative rather than more liberal, 39% to 18%, with 42% saying they have not changed. 


From MacMind:
&quot;The real point is why Americans are returning to their conservative roots. The answer is because theyâ€™ve seen the contrast between what true conservatism is when compared to the in-your-face liberalism we see today.&quot;


Basically, conservatives lost because they had deserted their conservative principles.  They&#039;re now headed back that direction.  Sarah Palin will be at the front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Gallup Poll found that:</p>
<p>    â€œPRINCETON, NJ â€” Despite the results of the 2008 presidential election, Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, say their political views in recent years have become more conservative rather than more liberal, 39% to 18%, with 42% saying they have not changed. </p>
<p>From MacMind:<br />
&#8220;The real point is why Americans are returning to their conservative roots. The answer is because theyâ€™ve seen the contrast between what true conservatism is when compared to the in-your-face liberalism we see today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically, conservatives lost because they had deserted their conservative principles.  They&#8217;re now headed back that direction.  Sarah Palin will be at the front.</p>
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		<title>By: marksbbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksbbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Ohioan, this post makes me a little more optimistic about my state, after so many of my friends fell for Obama&#039;s sweet talk in November.  It looks like our Democrat Governor Strickland is losing some support as well- his idea of cutting state funding for libraries is not popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Ohioan, this post makes me a little more optimistic about my state, after so many of my friends fell for Obama&#8217;s sweet talk in November.  It looks like our Democrat Governor Strickland is losing some support as well- his idea of cutting state funding for libraries is not popular.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Reid said today that there will be no second stimulus and even discussing it when 90% of the first stimulus remains unspent is silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid said today that there will be no second stimulus and even discussing it when 90% of the first stimulus remains unspent is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker9876</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker9876</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Congress will pass the second stimulus.  Why?  It will force many Americans (other than Guy Fawkes) to see the truth about our Democratic Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Congress will pass the second stimulus.  Why?  It will force many Americans (other than Guy Fawkes) to see the truth about our Democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe &quot;crumbling&quot; would be a more accurate description of Democrat popularity in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe &#8220;crumbling&#8221; would be a more accurate description of Democrat popularity in the US.</p>
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