Comments on: Remember, President Obama Claims His Economic Plan Is Working! http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826 High Flying Political Debate Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:18:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Strata-Sphere » Obamanomics: Increasing Unemployment For Months http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476314 The Strata-Sphere » Obamanomics: Increasing Unemployment For Months Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:52:27 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476314 [...] And as to emphasize what I posted this morning on the high probability this year’s deficit will hit a mind boggling $2.5-2.8 $1.84 trillion, [...] [...] And as to emphasize what I posted this morning on the high probability this year’s deficit will hit a mind boggling $2.5-2.8 $1.84 trillion, [...]

]]> By: Oh Wonderful….: The Economy is screwed to hell, worse than originally thought! | Political Byline http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476157 Oh Wonderful….: The Economy is screwed to hell, worse than originally thought! | Political Byline Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:16:13 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476157 [...] Hot Air, Pajamas Media, QandO, The Strata-Sphere, Stop The ACLU and Balloon [...] [...] Hot Air, Pajamas Media, QandO, The Strata-Sphere, Stop The ACLU and Balloon [...]

]]> By: Neo http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476148 Neo Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:11:37 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476148 Somewhere, on some blog (maybe this one, but I think not) during the thick of last year’s campaign, an Obama supporter asked the question … <b>won’t you concede that the election is about who gets to split up the spoils ?</b> The (most benign) alternate interpretation of why the “stimulus” was so badly targeted is that those who put it together always thought that the previous “stimulus”-s were purely a “spoils distribution” and they decided that it would be different this time. While this interpretation is not necessarily based on ill-will on the part of the participants, it is scary none-the-less. <i>By the way, I don’t believe elections are the basis of who gets to split up the “spoils” and I responded that way.</i> Somewhere, on some blog (maybe this one, but I think not) during the thick of last year’s campaign, an Obama supporter asked the question … won’t you concede that the election is about who gets to split up the spoils ?

The (most benign) alternate interpretation of why the “stimulus” was so badly targeted is that those who put it together always thought that the previous “stimulus”-s were purely a “spoils distribution” and they decided that it would be different this time.
While this interpretation is not necessarily based on ill-will on the part of the participants, it is scary none-the-less.

By the way, I don’t believe elections are the basis of who gets to split up the “spoils” and I responded that way.

]]> By: » Financial News Update - 07/14/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country… http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476147 » Financial News Update - 07/14/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country… Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:53:09 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476147 [...] Remember, President Obama Claims His Economic Plan Is Working! [...] [...] Remember, President Obama Claims His Economic Plan Is Working! [...]

]]> By: Obama: Unemployment Will Continue to Rise : Stop The ACLU http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476142 Obama: Unemployment Will Continue to Rise : Stop The ACLU Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:15:13 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476142 [...] AJ Strata: The problem is twofold. The liberal economic stimulus scheme did not stimulate the economy (we are now told it was never supposed to until later this year). But as people are out of work or working at lower wage, part time jobs the tax revenues are dropping off. Higher spending plus lower revenues - you would think any Ivy League school graduate could do that math. [...] [...] AJ Strata: The problem is twofold. The liberal economic stimulus scheme did not stimulate the economy (we are now told it was never supposed to until later this year). But as people are out of work or working at lower wage, part time jobs the tax revenues are dropping off. Higher spending plus lower revenues – you would think any Ivy League school graduate could do that math. [...]

]]> By: Liberty Pundit | A Recipe For Outsourcing http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476109 Liberty Pundit | A Recipe For Outsourcing Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:15:21 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476109 [...] Air Macsmind The Strata-Sphere (here, too) Sister Toldjah Stop the ACLU Gateway Pundit Protein Wisdom Blue Crab Boulevard Share and [...] [...] Air Macsmind The Strata-Sphere (here, too) Sister Toldjah Stop the ACLU Gateway Pundit Protein Wisdom Blue Crab Boulevard Share and [...]

]]> By: Neo http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476060 Neo Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:40:51 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476060 I think Obama and his economic team thought that this was merely a “crisis of confidence,” meaning the economy would resume as soon as the feeling of “panic” was abated, so targeting the “stimulus” just was that important. As a matter of fact, I think you could have sold that idea up until GM went into bankruptcy. At that point, the banks had been tested and GM and Chrysler were “dealt with” so the feeling of crisis had abated, but it set the stage for the current situation. Once there was a feeling that the worst of the crisis was over, the Obama agenda was left there, naked for all to see. As the weeks have progressed, the unease of the underlying future consequences of the current “cap and trade” (somehow called an energy bill) and Obamacare bills started to suck the oxygen out of the normal recovery process. I think Obama and his economic team thought that this was merely a “crisis of confidence,” meaning the economy would resume as soon as the feeling of “panic” was abated, so targeting the “stimulus” just was that important. As a matter of fact, I think you could have sold that idea up until GM went into bankruptcy. At that point, the banks had been tested and GM and Chrysler were “dealt with” so the feeling of crisis had abated, but it set the stage for the current situation.
Once there was a feeling that the worst of the crisis was over, the Obama agenda was left there, naked for all to see.
As the weeks have progressed, the unease of the underlying future consequences of the current “cap and trade” (somehow called an energy bill) and Obamacare bills started to suck the oxygen out of the normal recovery process.

]]> By: kathie http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476052 kathie Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:34:21 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476052 I say he must not of known or understood the magnitude of the recession, thinking that Obama didn't want to be a failure and one term President. I say he must not of known or understood the magnitude of the recession, thinking that Obama didn’t want to be a failure and one term President.

]]> By: rhoan http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476017 rhoan Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:38:53 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476017 Sarah Palin is the definition of common sense, honesty and perseverance. The integrity of her message resonates and needs no parsing. Sarah Palin is the definition of common sense, honesty and perseverance. The integrity of her message resonates and needs no parsing.

]]> By: kathie http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476016 kathie Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:36:22 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476016 I'm quite sure Obama and his gang didn't understand how bad the economy was. Because if they had they wouldn't have used the crisis in such a cavalier way, as a reason to pass nationalized health care and cap and trade. Of course the wealthy are going to have their taxes raised and my bet others as well to help get us out of the depression. On top of having taxes raised to help get us out of this depression, he is going to tax them again to pay for nationalized medical care? And then he is going to tax everybody again with cap and trade? I ask, with medical insurance and cap and trade hanging over the economy, why would any one hire a single soul. And secondly, this government has complete miss the amount of wealth that has been lost and will take years and years to regain, if not generations. He thinks he is going to put people to work building green, OK, but who is going to be able to buy green at a new great expense? He thought he would force people to do it with cap and trade. But where is the money to do anything beside subsist? This is a, when ideas hit the reality check, moment. This whole Presidency is, when ideas hit a reality check. And we have tons of oil and gas to be mined and we are think about taxing marijuana! We are in for a very rough ride! I’m quite sure Obama and his gang didn’t understand how bad the economy was. Because if they had they wouldn’t have used the crisis in such a cavalier way, as a reason to pass nationalized health care and cap and trade. Of course the wealthy are going to have their taxes raised and my bet others as well to help get us out of the depression. On top of having taxes raised to help get us out of this depression, he is going to tax them again to pay for nationalized medical care? And then he is going to tax everybody again with cap and trade? I ask, with medical insurance and cap and trade hanging over the economy, why would any one hire a single soul. And secondly, this government has complete miss the amount of wealth that has been lost and will take years and years to regain, if not generations.

He thinks he is going to put people to work building green, OK, but who is going to be able to buy green at a new great expense? He thought he would force people to do it with cap and trade. But where is the money to do anything beside subsist? This is a, when ideas hit the reality check, moment. This whole Presidency is, when ideas hit a reality check. And we have tons of oil and gas to be mined and we are think about taxing marijuana! We are in for a very rough ride!

]]> By: penguin2 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476014 penguin2 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:27:55 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476014 AJ, from the beginning, you and others said the "stimulus would not work." In fact, many of us knew that, because the stimulus was full of expanded government initiatives and programs, whose only purpose was to increase the dependency of the populace on government. This is in either in the form of government jobs or government handouts, note his extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the food stamp dollars. The "porkulus" bill was also filled with all kinds of start up funds for new government programs, including nationalized health care. I believe Obama and his henchmen/women, never intended it to work. It was a slight of hand to grow government's power behind the guise of doing 'something' to help the economy. They also had been counting on the economy turning around on it's own enough to make it look like 'his' plan had worked and thus he would be able to take credit for the turn around. Two factors have prevented this. One is the obvious mechanical and logistical failure of that kind of program to actually provide a healthy solution for an ailing economy and two, which I think has been overlooked or underestimated, is the psychological impact of the Dems being in power and the effect of the Obama ascendancy to power. I believe it was you who posted graphs about economic well-being during Dem administrations and Rep. ones. Clearly since the Dems took over in 2007, a negativity in our growth has occurred. IMO, since Obama was elected in 2008, there is a deep underlying lack of confidence from the business and personal sector that instinctively, the people know this administration is no good for us and for the country. AJ, from the beginning, you and others said the “stimulus would not work.” In fact, many of us knew that, because the stimulus was full of expanded government initiatives and programs, whose only purpose was to increase the dependency of the populace on government. This is in either in the form of government jobs or government handouts, note his extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the food stamp dollars. The “porkulus” bill was also filled with all kinds of start up funds for new government programs, including nationalized health care.

I believe Obama and his henchmen/women, never intended it to work. It was a slight of hand to grow government’s power behind the guise of doing ‘something’ to help the economy. They also had been counting on the economy turning around on it’s own enough to make it look like ‘his’ plan had worked and thus he would be able to take credit for the turn around.

Two factors have prevented this. One is the obvious mechanical and logistical failure of that kind of program to actually provide a healthy solution for an ailing economy and two, which I think has been overlooked or underestimated, is the psychological impact of the Dems being in power and the effect of the Obama ascendancy to power. I believe it was you who posted graphs about economic well-being during Dem administrations and Rep. ones. Clearly since the Dems took over in 2007, a negativity in our growth has occurred. IMO, since Obama was elected in 2008, there is a deep underlying lack of confidence from the business and personal sector that instinctively, the people know this administration is no good for us and for the country.

]]> By: daniel ortega http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476012 daniel ortega Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:57:49 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476012 Well, it just depends on what el-presidente means by the verb "working". I say it is leftist misdirection. You need to be more familiar with this. Here is what I think "working" means: The "hijacking" of the US Government has been long since planned by Marxists like George Soros, and Zbigniew Brzezinski. The fact of the this very serious matter is, Obama knows more about the old Russian Constitution then he does the US Constitution. Let me explain. Obama is recruited at Columbia University by Marxist CIA Officer and Professor When attending Columbia University as an Indonesian foreign student, Obama was one of eight students recruited by Brzezinski to study "Sovietology". By this time, Brzezinski had worked his way up the ladder in the CIA to become one of its' top officers. "Brzezinski, a CIA expert on the Soviet Union, teaches international relations and is the head of the Institute for Communist Affairs at Columbia." Brzezinski wrote a book called "The Grand Chess Board", which is a blueprint for world domination by a one world government, led by he and his Marxist cronies, of course. Using the USA's innovation and wealth, Brzezinski talks about taking over Eurasia and more. Here are some quotes from The Grand Chess Board: snip That was from http://repubx.com and represents one of the two most prominent theories about the Manchurian candidate. Am I sure of this theory? No. Am I sure of the other theory about Obama being a moslem operating in Taqiyya? No. But am I sure that he a Manchurian candidate? Si. If he was just stupid and inexperienced, then once in a while he would do something that helped America. And he has not made that error since his election. Every little thing he does is tragic. There is an evil intelligence behind seemingly naive manoeuvres. And the Left makes a big error here. In most times, the elite of the Left assume safely that their communist laws do not actually apply to them, that there is a place of safety where they can go and have the wine, women, and thong. But this time they are wrong. Imagine the world with no USA. What happens next? Somebody should make a movie. Not beautiful. Well, it just depends on what el-presidente means by the verb “working”.
I say it is leftist misdirection. You need to be more familiar with this.

Here is what I think “working” means:

The “hijacking” of the US Government has been long since planned by Marxists like George Soros, and Zbigniew Brzezinski. The fact of the this very serious matter is, Obama knows more about the old Russian Constitution then he does the US Constitution. Let me explain.

Obama is recruited at Columbia University by Marxist CIA Officer and Professor

When attending Columbia University as an Indonesian foreign student, Obama was one of eight students recruited by Brzezinski to study “Sovietology”. By this time, Brzezinski had worked his way up the ladder in the CIA to become one of its’ top officers.

“Brzezinski, a CIA expert on the Soviet Union, teaches international relations and is the head of the Institute for Communist Affairs at Columbia.”

Brzezinski wrote a book called “The Grand Chess Board”, which is a blueprint for world domination by a one world government, led by he and his Marxist cronies, of course. Using the USA’s innovation and wealth, Brzezinski talks about taking over Eurasia and more. Here are some quotes from The Grand Chess Board:

snip

That was from http://repubx.com and represents one of the two most prominent theories about the Manchurian candidate.

Am I sure of this theory? No. Am I sure of the other theory about
Obama being a moslem operating in Taqiyya? No.

But am I sure that he a Manchurian candidate? Si.

If he was just stupid and inexperienced, then once in a while
he would do something that helped America. And he has not made
that error since his election. Every little thing he does is tragic.
There is an evil intelligence behind seemingly naive manoeuvres.

And the Left makes a big error here. In most times, the elite of the Left
assume safely that their communist laws do not actually apply to them,
that there is a place of safety where they can go and have the wine, women, and thong. But this time they are wrong.

Imagine the world with no USA. What happens next?
Somebody should make a movie. Not beautiful.

]]> By: WWS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476006 WWS Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:10:54 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476006 Terrye - we ARE in so deep that we can't get out. This is not reversible without a decade of pain. No matter who wins the next elections. Terrye – we ARE in so deep that we can’t get out.

This is not reversible without a decade of pain. No matter who wins the next elections.

]]> By: Terrye http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/9826/comment-page-1#comment-476005 Terrye Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:23:10 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=9826#comment-476005 You know what scares me? We will get in so deep we can not get out. That is what scares me. You know what scares me? We will get in so deep we can not get out. That is what scares me.

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